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"Threading The Needle."

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Blogger Deo Prentice said...

Some trade involving Wong, Santana, and Hochever makes too much sense not to happen. Fills stated needs on both sides. Also, Cards have depth in young pitching (many have debuted this year). Wong & a couple of near-term pitchers for Santana & Hoch seems very doable for both sides.

July 28, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Blogger deaner said...

Rany, at the end of the day, your main problem with a trade, is Dayton Moore. He just doesn't seem to have the guts/brains/fearlessness to pull the trigger on one of these trades.

July 28, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Blogger deaner said...

Rany, at the end of the day, your main problem with a trade, is Dayton Moore. He just doesn't seem to have the guts/brains/fearlessness to pull the trigger on one of these trades.

July 28, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Blogger Bart said...

I think Logan Forsythe is another reasonable/possible trade target.

July 28, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

if dayton moore is able to turn 12 mil and brandon sisk into a main stay second basemen, that would probably be his best move to date.



I already consider santana his best move to date, however

July 28, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Enjoying the article, but noticed that Gordon Beckham's profile states "from 2010 to 2010 he batted...". Figuring that's a typo of some sort.. Keep up the great writing.

July 28, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Blogger Kansas City said...

Great writing and interesting information.

Royals continue to be an extremely interesting story. Now, they largely luck into a an 8 and 2 streak at the trading deadline (winning close games, including close games against a lousy team), which probably and unfortunately, changes everything. Moore will not sell. I suspected that when he was quoted a week ago as expressing fear that he would trade Santana and then regret it. With the emotions related to the Myers trade and the recent hot streak, no way Moore will make an objective and clear eyed decision.

The Royals are 10 and 10 in Santana's starts. He has about 13 left and the most likely result is around 500. The Angels were 7 and 6 in Greinke's 13 starts last year. Let's assume with the significantly worse hitting Royals, Santana goes a comparable 7 and 6. TRADE HIM. And based on Rany's analysis, get Wong.

July 28, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Blogger Scott said...

Rany,

Why isn't Ciraco up and starting at 2B? His historical offensive numbers are quite good and, apparently, he is an excellent defensive 2B..

Get him up, now....!!

Scott

July 29, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Blogger Kansas City said...

In the old days with 8 team leagues and no playoffs, it was common for bad teams to shoot for upward movement to the "first division" (top four of the 8 team league). Teams like the KC Athletics used to dream of being in the first division. In some ways, the 2013 Royals take us back to 1955.

July 29, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Blogger twm said...

That Wong trade would be nice, but it is a pipe dream. The idea of trading Santana is itself a pipe dream.

July 29, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Blogger SLThornton said...

I agree with Bart...wouldn't Forsythe be a possible target? Didn't the Royals scout San Diego not that long ago?

July 29, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Blogger BobDD said...

We need Wong just for the plethora of punned headlines that would soon stretch further than our oldest scout's memory.

July 30, 2013 at 7:44 PM

Blogger twm said...

Kind of wanted something interesting at the deadline. So, now what? Any chance if a Santana extension? I know everyone assumes he leaves, but would five/$70 get us into the discussion? Is he worth that? What does revenue look like with all the new money coming from MLB? Salary projections for our position players? Hosmer is looking better of late, but his struggles, as well as Moose's, must help alleviate the coming arbitration crunch. I don't know, just wondering.

August 1, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Blogger KHAZAD said...

I somewhat agree with deaner on Dayton Moore, and have been telling everyone that the Royals would be neither buyers or sellers at the deadline. Despite the small move for Maxwell, this proved to be the case.

Moore has been timid when it comes to bold moves. I don't even believe he would have made the Myers trade if not for the fact that (to him at the time) it took the competition away from his boy Frenchy in right field. (I would have given up Myers and the rest, or perhaps even a little more for Shields and Zobrist. Now THAT would have been an interesting deal!)

In the end, anyone who has watched Moore the last 7 years would find it easy to predict that he would stand pat. Taking the middle ground and making small moves with players that were not in his plans anyway has been his M.O. (tradewise) from the beginning.

Of course as Mr Miyagi once said, if you walk down the middle, sooner or later you get squished, just like a grape.

August 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM

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