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Blogger Phil said...

I read an inordinate amount of information about the Royals.

And yet I completely forgot Melky Cabrera was a Royals until you re-mentioned it in this post.

What's the consensus of posters: Who is more irrelevant at the moment, the Kansas City Royals or the Pittsburgh Pirates?

I'm going with Pirates only because they one-up our Bruce Chen with Chan Ho Park.

January 16, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Blogger Michael said...

Actually, I read today that Chan Ho is going to Japan. This season, the only relevance the Royals will have is in the minor leagues, and how quickly some of them graduate to the majors.

January 16, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Good column. I am a fan of both signings, as well.

I don't see Francis as being comparable to Cruz, though. The guaranteed money--and Cruz was two years ago--and the time are significantly less. Francis has been signed as a starter and Cruz was as a reliever. Cruz cost us a second rounder (which could have meant no Wil Myers!), Francis, to my knowledge, nothing. Cruz reportedly has problems between the ears, of which I know no similar reports about Francis.

With regard to Cabrera, the other reason he might play more early in the season is that it increases the chance that he is viable trade bait, along with the rest of the short-time vets that were signed this winter.

Either way, I can't wait to compare the 2011 opening-day roster to the roster to begin 2012 and ask: "Who were those freakin' guys?"

January 16, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Yeah I'm pretty satisfied with this offseason.

I'm still going to be counting down the days to the prospect wave showing up, but as least we have some interesting enough players to follow until that happens.

January 16, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Blogger Nathan said...

I actually think 2011 will be interesting in its own way. There are a number of guys here who could become lucrative trade bait with good half-years: Chen, Francis, Davies, Betemit, Aviles, Frenchy, anyone in the bullpen besides Soria...these are all guys who could be worth something (not much, but something) to a contender, come June. Combine that with Gordon's latest chance to prove himself, and the fact that Butler's age-24 season will probably tell us a lot about whether he's going to be great or just good, and there's more than a little drama at the MLB level. Should be more entertaining than 2010.

January 16, 2011 at 11:09 PM

Blogger kcghost said...

I guess if the Greinke trade does not turn out to be a disaster then GMDM can be given credit for not making things worse.

Okay, with these two pitchers being signed. One year deals at reasonably low cost.

January 17, 2011 at 8:16 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

Where does this leave Everett Teaford and his chances of making the starting lineup?

January 17, 2011 at 9:52 AM

Blogger Robert said...

If there is a "right way" to build a 100 loss team, Moore has finally either figured it out or accidentally stumbled into it. At a minimum, we'll come out of 2011 with payroll flexibility and knowing quite a bit more about what the future holds for some young players. With a bit of luck, we'll find a couple pieces of deadline trade bait that doesn't hurt at all to part with. With a lot of luck, Gordon fulfills his promise and Butler starts turning more doubles into homers, and 2012 looks like a legit contending year.

Maybe that last one is asking too much.

January 17, 2011 at 10:07 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

2011 should be better than 2010, we probably aren't winning the division, but I think there's a chance we are competitive. Sure, lots of players have to take a step forward, but I'm optimistic. I still believe in Gordon, Kila, Brayan Pena, and Mike Aviles. Regardless, I'd rather watch a bunch of young guys struggle, than a bunch of veterans struggle.

January 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Blogger Big Hatt said...

I've got no problem with Francis or Chen, in fact we probably needed them both. I still think we'll lose 110, but I was beginning to think we'd inch towards 120.

Maybe I'm just too cynical here, but the change in attitude on this blog over the past sixm onths to a year has rubbed me very wrong. I know its your blog, your choice what to write, and you've done a great job over the years. I'm just a little tired of hearing you praise a guy who, in his sixth year as GM, has constructed yet another 100-loss team.

Best farm in baseball. Fine. I've heard that plenty over the last six months. But you just praised Dayton for not signing ANOTHER Kendall. Wouldn't you say thats a bit over the top? Its like praising a 40-year-old man for not shitting his pants. Either he's retarded, or he doesn't deserve the praise.

January 17, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Blogger wizscape said...

If he's learning from his mistakes, that's a big step forward. Generally, a person in his position thinks he got there because he's got everything figured out and his ego won't let him admit mistakes. If Moore has learned what not to do it'll make things better going forward.

January 17, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Blogger jjhochunk said...

I'm not impressed with O'Sullivan so far, and would like him better on the taxi squad in Omaha. But given that he and Davies suck pretty much equally, why pay Davies 4-5 times as much as SOS? I have heard some say Davies might be more valuable in the bullpen, and I would like to give that a shot. But not at the salary he would before or after arbitration. I'm hope I'm wrong and he is effective in ST, but I'm not optimistic that he has a future as a starter here. As for Melky, can't he be cut by a certain date during the spring and only be entitled to one sixth of his salary? There's another million off the books.

January 17, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am on track with Jeremy.

I think 2011 will be much better in the win column.

The defense will be head and shoulders of 2010.

The offense should be markedly improved. Not a guarantee, but look at last years starting day lineup. Taking Bloomquist and Betancourt out alone makes it a major plus. I think there will be improvements before the young guns arrive and then even more improvement.

It is hard to say the pitching will be better whne Greinke is not there. But the bullpen should be much improved, and 1-5 I think is improved.

Hatt, I don't disagree with your sentiment, but there is real tangible evidence for a reason to be hopeful now. In the past we were all hopeful, but you had to grasp at straws to find something. Now there is solid stuff to look at. I think Rany is a reflection of that.

Rany your writing is great and it is something I definitely look forward to. But don't forget to point out the flaws in what they are doing. It isn't that hard to find flaws in GMDM.

And hochunk. I am in agreement with you. Let's go ahead and cut Melky and Davies now and give them a chance to hook on with someone else. If those two were gone today the team is that much better. If DM has learned from his mistakes and he is truly moving forward, he needs to cut and move on.

Just my .02.

January 17, 2011 at 1:32 PM

Blogger Kansas City said...

I find any baseball team interesting, so I have no problem with being interested in th 2011 Royals.

But I have a question about why a GM of a bad team would do anything greated toward the current year. I suppose Rany's point is that these are cheap fill in's whom we might be able to trade, but that is pretty speculative.

I also wonder why Moore does not get an option year on all contracts, even at a high price. Is there some downside in terms of eligibility for a draft choice when the players leaves?

January 17, 2011 at 1:51 PM

Blogger Old Man Duggan said...

@Big Hatt - Nice 40yo man comment. I think the Kendall comment when coupled with the Yuni-dump comment just go towards Rany's growing belief that maybe GMDM is learning from his mistakes. While perhaps more optimistic than I am, there is some evidence that perhaps this is happening.

January 17, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Blogger Phil said...

I think Duggan makes the best point, that GMDM is learning from mistakes.

No matter how you slice it, Dayton is a first time GM. Every decision he made was his first. The real measure of the man is whether he learns from his mistakes and changes his behavior accordingly. In this regard, GMDM is doing a good job.

January 18, 2011 at 9:43 AM

Blogger Royals said...

With Meche retiring, does this mean we are off the hook for 12 million?

January 18, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Blogger George said...

Yes, off the hook for the $12M. This means we are paying somewhere in the neighborhood of $42M in salaries this season. I know we just signed Francis and Chen, but is it time we take some of the Meche cash and get more pitching? Also, how much do we have tied up next year? $10M?

January 18, 2011 at 1:32 PM

Blogger Royals said...

I say we keep the money and pour it into the draft and Latin America. It would be much better spent there than trading for a Joe Blanton type to eat innings or bringing in a veteran to platoon such as Manny Ramirez.

January 18, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Blogger Lance said...

Glad I found your blog. Followed you on twitter too. Can;t wait to read your daily anti Jeff Francoeur blog posts. Trust me, living in Atlanta, I wrote them myself.

4 weeks til baseball!

Lance

January 18, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Blogger Michael said...

Meche's announcement came about 2 months too late. If he'd announced this at the end of last season (and I do understand he probably wasn't thinking retirement then), maybe we could have gone out and spent some money in free agency, which may have convinced Zack to stick around and see this through.

But oh well. Not much we can do about that now I guess.

January 18, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Blogger benfunke said...

Kansas City - yes, if you decline an option, you wouldn't get the benefit of Type A or B status of a player.

January 18, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Blogger Michael said...

Actually, you still can. If you decline the option and then offer the player arbitration, and the player declines, you would still get the draft pick compensation if they signed elsewhere. It's exactly what Toronto did with Miguel Olivo.

January 18, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Blogger Michael said...

Any chance you'll be down for FanFest this weekend Rany?

January 20, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Blogger Steve N said...

I wish that I was so confident that DM has learned. The Francoeur signing would seem to indicate that he has not. Still it looks to me as if the Royals can move forward this year. I will take the under on 100 losses.

January 21, 2011 at 1:27 AM

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January 21, 2011 at 3:18 AM

Blogger Nathan said...

Steve,

Signing Francoeur with the expectation that he'll hit like the blue-chip prospect he used to be would have been a bad move. On the other hand, hoping that he can turn it around does no harm whatsoever. His presence actually will make the 2011 Royals slightly better--Mitch Meier is a year older, has a lesser pedigree, and has posted worse career stats. Plus, if he's productive, he can be flipped at the deadline for prospects. For $2.5 million I think it's a fine gamble; even if you think he isn't worth $2.5 million over 1 year, this certainly isn't the kind of signing that proves a GM "hasn't learned." I doubt there's a team in baseball that doesn't have at least one contract worse than this on the books.

January 21, 2011 at 3:19 AM

Blogger Nathan said...

Oh, one other thing, off topic though it is.

With Blylevin in the Hall of Fame, it's time for the sabermetric crowd to turn their attention to an even more deserving enshrinee: Jeff Bagwell. There is absolutely no evidence he ever used PEDs, and he put up .297/.408/.540 career slash stats as a slick fielding 1B in the cavernous Astrodome. A rational argument that doesn't belong in the HOF just doesn't exist, and it's hard to believe he was under 50% even the first time around.

January 21, 2011 at 3:42 AM

Blogger Jason said...

This is the first DM team that makes SENSE to me. Not sure it's going to win any more games than previous teams, but it makes sense given what is on the way from the minors, because:
1) No one is being blocked in AA or AAA by anyone on the ML roster, NOR is anyone in AA and AAA being rushed to make a meaningful contribution--a difficult balance to achieve, imo.
2) Everyone who needs to get the playing time to be evaluated moving forward should get their opportunity to do so; by the end of the year we should all have a clearer picture as to the futures of Gordon, Hochevar, Mazzaro, Kaaihue, Getz, Pena, Cain, and several arms in the bullpen.
3) They actually are putting into practice their said goal of having good up-the-middle defense. The combo Cain, Escobar, and Getz should be much better than that of Ankiel/Maier/Blanco, Betancourt, and Aviles.
4) No big OR long-term contracts, save Soria.

For a team that's expecting the kind of talent influx it's expecting the next several years and is ok with not going for the post-season in the mean time, I can't imagine a better put together team than what DM has done, here. That's sort of a compliment.

January 21, 2011 at 12:25 PM

Blogger Royals said...

I love the butler deal. Looking forward to your analysis, rany.

January 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM

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