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"This Crow Doesn't Taste So Bad."

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Anonymous Dave said...

Forget the inevitable DL stint next year, what's most important is we have quality pitching depth that we can trade to fill other holes on the diamond. I wouldn't mind moving Davies/Hochevar/Bannister for a position player right now.

June 10, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Blogger George said...

Crow was a better player than the Royals had any right to expect fall to them at 12. I think he is a pretty solid bet for a mid rotation guy and mayber better than that.

June 10, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Blogger Shelby said...

Dave:

I'm not sure what you mean by "inevitable DL stint next year", but I'm 100% in favor of trading either one of Davies/Hochevar/Bannister for anyone position player with a decent bat.

June 10, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

To be honest, even though the Royals mostly drafted college pitchers there's still a good chance they could out hit some of the current Royals.

June 10, 2009 at 6:03 PM

Blogger robneyer said...

Rany, this is the second time in a week that you've referred to the strength of the Royals' rotation. But I mean, really? Must I really review Kyle Davies' career, and season? Luke Hochevar's performance in the majors thus far? Brian Bannister's strikeout rate? Maybe one or two of those guys really will be decent in the long run. But all of them? Really?

June 10, 2009 at 6:25 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is that David Glass and Allard Baird drafting all those college seniors??? Hope it works out better than in the past.

June 10, 2009 at 8:33 PM

Blogger Rany said...

Rob,

Not to go all R&R on you here, but the rotation is better than league-average, which I would define as a strength.

Brian Bannister's ERA+ this year is 94; his ERA+ for his career is 93. Slightly below average, but perfectly fine for a #4 or #5 starter.

Kyle Davies has a 5.12 ERA this year, but his peripherals are pretty strong - he's just been incredibly erratic. From the beginning of last year until now, over 33 starts, he has a 4.48 ERA (ERA+ of 97). If a #3 starter is, by definition, a league-average pitcher, than Davies is just slightly below-average for that slot. He's also just 25.

I'm not going to judge Hochevar on the basis of four starts this year, particularly when the eight starts he made in Triple-A before that were so good. If you compare him to the other 29 teams' fifth starter, I'm confident he would rank in the top half.

And then there's Greinke and Meche, both of whom compare favorably to the "typical" #1 and #2 starter.

Add it up, and the Royals' ERA from their starters alone this year is 4.25 - 5th in the AL, and well above the league average of 4.60. That doesn't include Meche's shutout tonight, and it does include way too many starts from Sidney Ponson and Horacio Ramirez.

June 10, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Blogger Chris said...

Way to tell him, Rany!!

Rob Neyer criticizing the Royals? No way I thought that'd happen.

June 10, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Anonymous Jason said...

Blech. You can have your "peripherals" with Davies. I'll look at his actual results. He's a lousy pitcher and he always has been.

June 10, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Anonymous Casper said...

Wow - a little tit for tat between R&R. Nice.

I think the draft has gone very, very well. Getting Myers in the 3rd round shows due diligence and persistence (now let's hope we can sign him - which I think we will). I'm actually more impressed with getting Myers in the 3rd than I am at getting Crow in the first, to be honest. Last year it was Melville, this year it's Myers. Sweet action.

Moore is continuing his pursuit of the currency of baseball (as he's famously put it) and that's refreshing to see; he hasn't pulled a Baird and declared "youth movement" five times only to give up on each of them half-way through. He's sticking to his plan, regardless of the popular opinion of the semi-casual fans in town. Just by law of averages a few of these arms we just drafted have to at least turn into Tyler Lumsden-grade prospects, and we've already seen that those types of prospects can be moved easily from team to team. Ideally - and most likely - we'll flip a couple when applicable to do so to find our SS (and/or the other pieces we're missing), while keeping the better parts to ourselves.

Finally, I apologize for going off-topic for a moment, but I've been surprised at how much recent criticism I've been hearing/reading about Moore recently, and I have to say to all the casual fans (which is pretty much most of Kansas City, it seems)to try to remember that there's more to running a FRANCHISE than spending a lot of money on the major league roster. Unfortunately we only focus on the face of the franchise (for obvious reasons), but try to remember that a franchise is layered and has a complicated organzational infrastructure. You have to build it from the ground-up. And that's what Moore is doing.

Sorry for my typical long-winded, meandering matriculation of undisciplined, opinionated thought.

June 11, 2009 at 12:18 AM

Blogger kcghost said...

Everyone recognizes that GMDM was given an incredibly difficult task when he took this job. He has to be given high marks for improving the overall professionalism of the organization as well as getting the Glass's to buy into the proper role of an owner. In his three drafts he has shown that the team will draft top talent without fear of the cost.

What is driving so many of us crazy is the number of mistakes he has made in putting together his major league roster. These mistakes were obvious in advance and easily avoided.

June 11, 2009 at 8:24 AM

Anonymous Chance said...

Is it my birthday? Did I really just read an abbreviated R&R right here in the comments to the altest blog post! Excellent!

Whenever I look at a MLB draft, I have to remind myself that much can happen between draft day and the highwater mark of a draftee's career. Man was I excited when the Royals took Gordon a few years ago. Now, I have no hope of him ever living up to the hype I piled on him. I submit taht he remains our most tradeable asset at this point, because there are still thin excuses for his lack of performance, while most of our other "pieces" are simply cow pies at this point. Teahen and Dejesus are what they are, while a MLB team might beleive that they can "fix" Gordon.

June 11, 2009 at 8:25 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hasn't Dayton Moore always said that pitching is the currency of baseball. If half these pitchers work out then he has really padded our bank account. Let's hope he can cash some of that in for bats and middle infielders.

June 11, 2009 at 8:56 AM

Blogger robneyer said...

Kyle Davies has "strong peripherals"? When I think of "peripherals" I think of walks and strikeouts and home runs. Davies' K/BB ratio this season is 1.50, which a) is not at all strong, and 2) is real close to his career mark. His HR rate is okay, but hardly "strong". I'm not trying to argue; I honestly don't know what you mean.

June 11, 2009 at 3:19 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rob Neyer is the most negative human being in the civilized world. At least Rany has some positive things to say and is really a Royals fan.

June 11, 2009 at 5:09 PM

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June 11, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Blogger Heath said...

I'd love to get excited about this...but this turd of a ball club ruins it for me. This is Dayton's team and it sucks. Where are Dayton's previous draft picks? Not that you'd expect them to all be in the bigs, but wouldn't it be nice if at least one of them was excelling at the AA level? We're a very bad team with a very thin minor league system. Good Lord I hope I'm proven to be wrong but it looks to me like Dayton just isn't very good.

June 11, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Anonymous Rocketman said...

I just don't get the "draft for a position of need" argument. In the NFL, where most draftees are either starting or gone by their 2nd year and trades are rare, I get it. Teams are constructed almost entirely through the draft. Your best (and almost only) chance for filling a hole is through the draft.

But in baseball that's not true. The draft is important for collecting valuable pieces, but most teams rely heavily on trades to get to their final configuration and since every team needs at least 5 starters, pitchers in the trading world, like GMDM says, are cold hard cash.

June 12, 2009 at 7:21 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

Rany,

Do you think the Royals passing on Green is an indication of the organization's expectation for Moustakas to potentially vie for SS or is that out of the question?

June 12, 2009 at 10:35 AM

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