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"Mea Culpa."

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Blogger Unknown said...

Another good read. You are truly my favorite Royals writer. I hope you do not decide to stop writing.

January 7, 2015 at 12:42 PM

Blogger Jonathan Reimer said...

Thank you.
In the dead of winter, with no baseball news to talk of, this brought a smile to my face and made me remember the joys this last October brought me.

January 7, 2015 at 12:43 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

I echo the previous 2 comments. It is 5 degrees outside in KC right now (I am sure it is even worse in Chicago), and this post just made that a lot more bearable. Thanks!

January 7, 2015 at 12:57 PM

Blogger Kevin said...

Maybe this is me nitpicking, but why did you cite Andrew Friedman/Rays moves when you were comparing Billy Beane and Dayton Moore?

January 7, 2015 at 1:08 PM

Blogger Mike said...

Your last two sentences were perfect and makes all the previous hand-wringing about the trade irrelevant.

My wife saw a side of me she never has, and I truly enjoyed baseball again. No, we didn't win the World Series. But the journey will never be forgotten by me, which included countless hours with my 11 year old son watching and talking Royals baseball.

January 7, 2015 at 2:31 PM

Blogger Wolfman said...

I'm surprised by Rany's latest blog on the Royals trade. I thought he had retired from blogging about the Royals. I guess he is like Michael Corleone in Godfather III. Even when he tries to stay away from
blogging, it sucks him back in

January 7, 2015 at 5:36 PM

Blogger ItsThisOrTherapy said...

You point that the other pitcher they wanted, Lester, was the other pitcher who remained durable is an interesting one. You've already written about how good their training staff is. Maybe identifying pitchers who will remain healthy is a big market inefficiency that the Royals are intentionally exploiting.

This blog post was just made for miserable winter days - great timing!

January 8, 2015 at 7:45 AM

Blogger Cyril Morong said...

They were lucky in the sense that they were a good situational team. I wrote about this at

http://cybermetric.blogspot.com/2014/10/how-have-royals-won-736-more-games-than.html

See also

http://cybermetric.blogspot.com/2014/10/team-winning-percentage-as-function-of.html

January 8, 2015 at 9:35 AM

Blogger Eric said...

Wolfman,

Rany's season preview said this:
If the Royals win the World Series, I’ll probably have no choice to stick around if only to profusely apologize to Dayton Moore every chance I get.

He hasn't officially said he's done, or at least, I didn't see that in his column, but he did say he'd apologize if he was wrong on the trade, and that's what this article was, his admittance that the Royals got it right (with luck). At this point, I think Rany has done everything I expect considering he said this would PROBABLY be the final year. While I appreciate the completeness of Rany's usual posts, given the option of his complete blogging retirement v. finding a way to give us 70-90% of the insight in a much shorter and more time efficient pieces (for him as writer and myself as reader), I would prefer to have his insight, plus I think that his words have had a positive influence on the front office (the overhaul of the training staff, advising them to use advanced metrics as a larger part of their decision making processes, taking age into greater consideration of future drafts/trades (hopefully, going forward after the Starling pick)).

So, I'd resigned myself that this would be the last post, but hope that he surprises me and finds a way to do this in a more efficient way going forward.

To Rany, thanks for your time and work for all these years. I think I opposed you when you lambasted the trade, because I felt that the leadership and age factors played in the Royals favor, and it was better to go for it than play it safe and wait another 3 years for a chance. I'm glad it worked out in our favor even though it seems lucky to us. I'm glad I came across your blog

January 8, 2015 at 12:47 PM

Blogger KC Tim said...

I dont recall when I started reading your column/blog (Afghanistan or Iraq), as a casual fan (and being a life long Royals fan, its fairly damn easy just being "casual") I rarely read alot of "basball" sites until I ran across yours. Just wanted to drop in and say "thank you". I disagree with some of your assesments/comments on occasion, but boy are your articles fun to read! Take care and I really hope you do not decide to retire/quit with your blog and just mess with Grantland/decide this blog takes too much time/whatever else you want to put here.

January 8, 2015 at 2:13 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Terrific post, Rany. Thanks.

Whether you retire from blogging permanently, or continue to write on a limited basis, I wish you Godspeed, and a good journey.

But if you do decide to shut it down for good, please remember this: every person who has ever spent even a moment reading your work was made a smarter Royals fan and a smarter baseball fan. You improved the lives of thousands of people (probably tens of thousands), whether we agreed with you or not. I (we) will be forever grateful.

January 8, 2015 at 8:51 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Rany,

I've been reading your work for maybe a decade now and you're one of my favorite baseball writers. I regularly check to see if you've updated the Rany on the Royals blog even though I have no rooting interest in the Royals. Quite simply, I enjoy your analysis and writing style. I hope you can keep the blog around, even if the posts are shorter and/or less frequent.

January 9, 2015 at 1:47 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

Excellent column, Rany. I've been reading your column for many years. Sometimes your predictions turn out to be really, really wrong (Whatever became of Kila Ka'aihue, anyway?), but you're really, really right far more often. Even when you turn out to be wrong, your analysis is excellent and your reasons are solid.

Please don't stop writing this blog. Even if you do it less often and the articles are shorter, we need you.

January 9, 2015 at 4:24 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Rany on this gamble Moore come out looking real good, and he deserves the accolades that has come his way. I also give credit to Yost for gambling on the running game against Oakland. Besides Dyson in the 9th, what if Cain or Escobar had been out in the 8th Hate to think we have to put up with him for 2/3 more years, but getting to the 7th game of the Series is worth it.
You admitted you were wrong and that is more than enough. One reason for the huge salaries in sports is dealing with our outsized interest in games. The players and management enjoy the unbelievable salaries they receive, so they can EASILY put up with our with our posts and sports talk calls. Hope you continue with at least an blog now and then, if not at least comment on the Royals player moves so far. Good Luck in the future!

January 9, 2015 at 8:39 PM

Blogger Mark said...

Thank you, Rany for your thoughtful, insightful, and informed analysis. You are a good writer (I taught college English for thirty-four years). No other site that I have read does what you do, much less as well as you do it. Your readers' responses are likewise better informed than those on other sites. Of course I want this blog to continue, but I also respect your wanting to live your own life. If you quit, I will really miss this blog. That said, go with God, and all best wishes.

January 9, 2015 at 10:34 PM

Blogger Johns Blog said...

Well said. Your take on the trade (and most other journalists) didn't take into account that Moore might just know certain things the media isn't privy to. The fact that Myers had already been traded again speaks volumes. He chose the right starter, got lucky on Davis and built a playoff team. It was unfair to accuse him of trying to save his job. His track record is better than he Is given credit for. He managed to trade the worst player in baseball for the eventual game 7 starter. Thank you Dayton for making the ballsiest trade possible,and for helping create the moments I've been waiting 30 years for.

January 10, 2015 at 2:08 AM

Blogger MoreHRsAndLesNorman said...

Thanks Rany. It's a breath of fresh air to hear someone say "I got it wrong."
Whether it's business, politics, sports...people think they will not be taken seriously if they dare to admit they were wrong.
I have much more respect for someone and their future opinions when I know they have the self awareness to write as you did hear.
Your opinion was formed reasonably, but you are humble enough to have said at the time and again today, they none of us know the future.
Thanks

January 11, 2015 at 4:40 PM

Blogger BobDD said...

I see several comments and Rany's article itself referring to GMDM being right on the trade and Rany wrong. I thought Rany's mea culpa given without excuses was wonderfully mature and well written as usual. But I wonder if we could talk about the trade not as right vs. wrong, but in terms of what we would or should do if a similar trade becomes available.

I do not think Royals admin had inside knowledge that Myers would become injured, but perhaps they did know that his potential was much smaller than believed the year before the trade. But still it basically comes down to do you trade a controlled cost minor-league-player-of-the-year or equivalent, for two years of someone that is all-star level and starting their downslide (in MLB known as the 30's)? Because of that question, I want to know if we won this trade because:
1) those components make a fair or advantageous trade,
2) had inside knowledge that Myers and Montgomery would not pan out all that well,
3) or mostly luck/chance in risky playoff bid.

If we won that trade because of 3 but think it was because of 1 then we will do another like it and not fare as well. If we won that trade because of 2, then our confidence level in admin has very good reason to trust more going forward.

The good that we got was: two excellent seasons of almost ace consistency from Shields. One lost season and one phenomenal season from Davis with some remaining option years from him that will be great deal if performs like last year. After year one, TB was actually "winning" if anyone was, but after last year this is a huge win for us and a disappointment for them.

Jake might easily be a good innings eater at controlled cost and end up being worth almost as much as Shields (not really likely) and Wil could have a couple average seasons and two all-star seasons and end up making the value higher yet on the other side of the trade, except for the fact that we were in the WS. But that's why I wouldn't want to do a trade like that again (unless #2 above applies) because I think it is betting against the house to expect two highly paid years to be better than six cost-controlled years of a Minor League Player of the Year.

So that's why I am uncomfortable with so many saying we unequivocally won that trade, even though I do think that trade worked out great for us. I just wouldn't trust the same trade again to give the same results. GMDM sure is getting better than the signings of JoseG and Yuni, but I'm still nervous about him having the keys to the car.

January 12, 2015 at 7:13 PM

Blogger thomasj19 said...

Sometimes we can't foresee luck which is what the Royals had. That doesn't mean Moore or Yost are any good at what they do. But as you said, results do matter. But what joy is there in losing a World Series? And maybe comparing Billy Beane and Dayton Moore is fair. Has Beane won a World Series?

January 13, 2015 at 12:49 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

This apology business is nonsense, but it gave me a lengthy, enjoyable post from Rany, so I'll take it! But, really, how many times did DM apologize to you? Did he apologize for Yuni (twice!)? Did he apologize for Mike Jacobs? Has he apologized for Bubba Starling? No, and he shouldn't. Like the line says in The Godfather. "It's not personal, Dayton. It's strictly business."

January 14, 2015 at 8:01 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Great job, as usual, Rany. My favorite line in the entire post, however, is "we’ll talk about Kendrys Morales some other time." I read that to mean we get at least one more "Rany on Royals" post. Can't wait to see it.

January 15, 2015 at 9:51 AM

Blogger Jayboid said...

What I never could understand, in a game as baseball where everybody is having cocktails with others secrets can be kept.

I heard Myers had ethics, work ethic problems. Didn't the Rays realize this, or did they think they could solve it. How many games has Myers been on the DL counting minors? I remember he slipped and hurt himself in NW Arkansas as a minor leaguer. My thought was he was getting a taco or something. Ummm sounds like a bit of the ole hooch and a bit of being 20 injury.

January 25, 2015 at 7:45 PM

Blogger John said...

And now we see the true "winner" in the Myers-for-Shields trade: the San Diego Padres!

February 10, 2015 at 5:50 AM

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