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"Reason #13: The Kid."

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Blogger Jack Campbell said...

I was as upset as the next guy when the Royals lost that #1 pick, but if it's any consolation I do believe in drafting hitters high. Is there any evidence that highly touted hitters work out more often than highly touted pitchers? It sure seems that way (on the other hand, maybe a 10% chance of getting a Cy Young candidate is better than a 20% chance of getting a power hitter). I should do a study, I'm willing to bet that more good pitchers rise up from low draft positions (daniel cortes) than hitters do. With hitters, I get the sense that what you see is what you get. And after Colt Griffin, et al, I'm liking the fact that we got a hitter (wouldn't you rather have Evan Longoria than Luke Hochevar right now? Be honest).

March 9, 2008 at 12:41 AM

Blogger ChasingMoney said...

Personally, I don't think KC would have been able to sign Price or Porcello. But they do need hitters more than pitchers at this point so I'm happy with the pick.

March 9, 2008 at 3:39 PM

Blogger Shaun P said...

Rany, FWIW, Jorge Posada (currently listed by b-r.com as 6'2", 190 lbs.) was a middle infielder at the start (he played 2B) before the Yanks moved him to catcher. That seemed to have worked out pretty well. I'm not sure if he was ever considered a top hitting prospect, though.

March 10, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I did some research and posted this on Joe Posnanski's Blog last month, but if you look at the players drafted in the first round from 1997-2006 the breakdown looks like this.

*I'm sorry, there are 30 teams, I only counted players taken in the first 30 picks... You can call other players "first rounders", but IMHO they are not first round picks.

Of the 298(J.D. Drew and John Mayberry were picked twice) players drafted:

101 Players were College pitchers.
77 Players were High School position players.
63Players were College position players.
56 Players were High School pitchers.

Of those 298 players 22.8% (68 of 298) were categorized as Star or Impact(Posnanski's rating).

34.9% (22 of 63) of College position players were listed as Stars or Impact.
20.7% (16 of 77) of High School position players were listed as Stars or Impact.
19.6% (11 of 56) of High School pitchers were listed as Stars or Impact.
18.8% (19 of 101) of College pitchers were listed as Stars or Impact.

On the negative side of things:

41.1% (23 of 63) of High School pitchers drafted had a rating of No Value(drafted 2003 earlier and have not appeared in the majors).
31.1%(24 of 87) of High School hitters had a rating of No Value (Chris Lubanski made this list).
20.8% (21 of 110) of College pitchers had a rating of No Value.
15.9%(10 of 63) of College Hitters had a rating of No Value.

In conclusion, while I'd have rather seen a top college hitter taken, Moustakas has a better chance statistically of having a long and productive major league career than Price or Porcello.

March 10, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Blogger Brett said...

Jack Campbell, did you used to write on a Royals blog with me a couple years ago?

March 11, 2008 at 8:49 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm with Jack, too many variables come with drafting the pitcher. My philosophy for years is to build through the draft and minors for hitters and relievers, and use your free agent money on durable starters. If you draft a good mix of hitters and projectable types you will hit on enough to have good hitters who are athletic up the middle of the diamond and use your corners for big boppers. Not exactly reinventing the wheel but managers are so hesitant to use young pitchers in relief it makes doing this much tougher. Weiters would be nice for this organization but he is very tall and I'm not sure he will be a catcher for long. I'm much happier with Moustakas than I was about Hochevar..

March 11, 2008 at 11:23 AM

Blogger Antonio. said...

The problem with what Campbell has done is that he's using very small sample sizes (one player) to back up his argument. For every Cortes, you can come up with a player that counters the argument pro-Cortes. For every Longoria versus Hochevar, you can come up with a college pitcher out doing a college hitter.

March 17, 2008 at 4:42 AM

Blogger Antonio. said...

"Personally, I don't think KC would have been able to sign Price or Porcello. But they do need hitters more than pitchers at this point so I'm happy with the pick"

There's should never be one single reason to not get the sign. Never. And you shouldn't draft based on need, especially in the opening rounds of the draft. As your prospects mature, you can later trade for need. If you need a left-handed hitter and there is an influx of right-handed power pitchers with amazing talent, you go with the pitchers. Drafting on need hurts your team a ton when your need doesn't match up with the best talent available.

March 19, 2008 at 3:14 AM

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