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Blogger David W. Lowe said...

First!

Great analysis. I totally agree that the trade for Q and B doesn't make much sense. Feeling pretty bad for Maier and Dyson and Lough.

I also agree that the Perez injury is a much bigger deal than the Soria injury. Soria's injury (a) gets a guy off the roster who was struggling, and (b) opens up a roster spot likely for Kelvin Herrera.

This is a good result for the Royals, but of course a terrible result for Soria. The Royals may win more games as a result of fewer blown saves and poor performance by Soria. I think our pen sets up nicely with Broxton, Holland, Crow, Coleman, and Herrera from the right side and Mijares and Collins from the left side. Of course Teaford also has a chance to make the pen.

March 20, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Blogger KHAZAD said...

I actually like Quintero, he is an excellent fielding catcher-exactly the type that will still be around 6 years from now having never been a starter. I agree that Bourgeois is kind of superflous though, and it was probably his inclusion that made Chapman part of the deal.

A fond farewell to Soria and his 160 saves and 2.40 career ERA. Even if he somehow rebuilds his arm, he will probably never pitch here again, as his option will be declined if he has to have TJ again.

For those of us who suffered through the terrible bullpens in the years preceding Soria, I will always remember how good it felt to finally have a guy you could count on in the 9th.

It is a shame he never got to pitch in a pennant race, for he was practically unhittable throughout his career in September. He gave up 2 runs in 49 innings, (a 0.37 ERA)with 24 hits and 13 walks (0.755 WHIP) and had a streak of 40.2 scoreless innings in September, since he gave up his last run in 2007. Hitters triple slash against him in September: .142/.207/.148. Yes, he only gave up one extra base hit in September, a double in 2007 that led to his last September run.

March 21, 2012 at 2:24 AM

Blogger Tampa Mike said...

"The Royals may win more games as a result of fewer blown saves and poor performance by Soria"

Maybe his recent poor performance is because of this injury. He has had unexplained arm problems for a while, so it makes sense. He was lights out before that. Perez is a bigger deal, just not for the reasons you give.

March 21, 2012 at 8:30 AM

Blogger The Professor said...

Well, I'll talk about why this injury stack, while not good, is maybe not really all that bad.

1. Perez's injury. If the injury was a result of the wear-and-tear of catching over time, and it gets fixed, it's sure better to have it happen this year than next or 2014.

2. Picking up Quintero. Gotta agree with Rany and KHAZAD. He should at the very least help the development of the pitching staff. It seems like he's really good at the catching part of his job description. Another plus is Moore is following along with the "cool kid" GM's who are really focuing on catcher D. At the end of the day, we're left with a really good backup catcher, nothing wrong with that.

3. Yuni's role. With a true defense-first catcher, we really NEED Yuni on the bench to pinch hit and be a, for want of a better term, "super-sub". Gio should start so Yuni will be available to fill in. Let's push this idea all over the blogosphere and hope it somehow magically influences the Royals. Finally, Yuni's got a little pop, and I need a backup shortstop in my deep AL-only league, so maybe I can pick up some cheap homers (silver linings, people).

4. Soria's injury. Although his contract was great and team-friendly, I think front offices are starting to realize that you just don't need to pay for a closer. With Soria's option in all likelihood off the table, and plenty of cheap in-house options, that's a big chunk of change less to worry about when considering an extention for Gordon. Plus with all this bad news, wouldn't a Gordon extension be just the thing to make the fans happy (Mr. Moore?)

5. Bourgeois. I got nothing.

March 21, 2012 at 8:40 AM

Blogger bbxpert said...

I'm not sure there is anything wrong with this trade. Chapman is 24 years old and has an ERA of over 5 in the minors. What exactly are we losing? We get Quintero who is just a stopgap although he might push Brayan Pena out of a job when Perez comes back. I like Dyson, but he is a pretty one-dimensional player. Bourgeois gives you more flexibility.

March 21, 2012 at 9:03 AM

Blogger First Baptist Church, Stephens said...

I moved from KC to Houston when I was a little kid, so my whole life I've been a Royals/Astros fan.

I have never liked Quintero. It's surprising to me, though, that he rates out so well defensively. Maybe I was underrating him.

The Astros don't need O'Sullivan or Mazzaro. I know they wouldn't go into their rotation. I really can't see them making the team. They've got Wandy, Bud Norris, Livan, JA Happ, and either Jordan Lyles, Kyle Weiland, or Henry Sosa at the back end. There's no way, especially with the spring Weiland is having, that they make room for the Royals' schlock. The Astros' rotation isn't much worse than the Royals. It might be better.

So that is to say that the PTBNL is probably not someone like O'Sullivan or Mazzaro. If you want to go that route on that type of player, Chris Getz or another position player is a better possibility.

In fact, if the Astros think Getz can back up SS, that's a good possibility.

March 21, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't it obvious why the Royals wanted Bourgeois?

They intend to oppress the proletariat.

March 21, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Blogger LastRoyalsFan said...

ChaimMKeller - that's the comment of the day!

March 21, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Blogger Mark said...

I think the PTBNL will be someone the R's drafted this year.

March 21, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Blogger amr said...

While you hope Perez would be less inclined to rush back to catching because it's the responsible thing to do given his long-term contract, that's the same thing that Joe Mauer's gotten blasted for by every baseball scribe in the Twin Cities. And in a lost season for the team, at that.

March 22, 2012 at 12:16 AM

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March 24, 2012 at 2:47 AM

Blogger John said...

A Royals' time capsule from 2005? Does that mean Emil Brown is in the Astros' camp this spring?

March 24, 2012 at 2:50 AM

Blogger Jayboid said...

My belief is this season hinges on a couple of bits of luck.

1. Cleveland helps the Royals by at least going 500 against Detroit.

2. Quintero catches Royal fever and plays above his head for a couple of months. Not offensively, but in calling great games, and blocking pitches.

March 24, 2012 at 7:49 AM

Blogger kc-at-the-bat.com said...

Appreciate the analysis, as always. However, if Nathan is the best comp, doesn't that support a slower approach to rehab (his surgery was March 2010 and he wasn't right until June 2011)? And given that 2012 is Nathan's 2nd year back, shouldn't the Royals wait until at least May to see if Nathan really is recovered before offering any two year contract to Soria?

March 27, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Blogger Pogue009 said...

Soria is interesting for a couple of reasons and while he was as amazing and dominant as a reliever can be he may have hurt the Royals more than any single player ever has.

From 2008-2010 Soria pitched in 173 games he had a 1.84 ERA was 6-7 with 115 saves and he arguably cast the Royals Stephen Strasburg, Bryce Harper, and a chance at 4 of the best pitching prospects in years in Cole, Bundy, Hultzen and Bauer.

None of that was his fault of course but if the Royals had with Strasburg on the horizon been willing to move Soria for value, or more realistically moved Soria pre-2009 they could have named their price.

Sergio Santos who is 5 years older than Soria was post 2008 just returned Nestor Molina, one season of Matt Capps returned Wilson Ramos, 1/2 a season of Dotel got James Macdonald none of those pitchers was the most dominant closer in the game coming off a 1.6 ERA.
Hopefully GMDM learns from this experience and from his pen's performance last year that selling high on relievers from a losing team is a winning bet, something that I had hoped he already knew after the Farnsworth trade.

March 27, 2012 at 9:22 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany, any chance that last season's report cards will be totally done before the new season begins?

I understand if the new baby requires some time-management adjustments.

April 3, 2012 at 7:39 AM

Blogger Rusty said...

Why no respect for Max Ramirez?

He's a career .295/.389/.478 hitter in the minors, and is now healthy after a wrist injury two years ago.

He hit .344/.432/.750 this spring, a higher OPS than anyone but Cain,
after hitting .318/.388/.608 in August and September for Fresno.

And the only thing you say about him is that he's a guy you wouldn't want to go to war with?

Why?

April 4, 2012 at 11:08 AM

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