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"Draft Preview 2011."

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Blogger Steve said...

I don't think Barnes qualifies as "safe." He's not your typical mid-rotation, non-projectable college pitcher with average stuff across the board. He's athletic, has a good frame, throws in the low-to-mid 90s and can spin a good breaking ball. In another, weaker draft, drawing from a pool of college pitchers rumored to go in the mid-1st round would get you a "safe," boring pitcher. Not this year. Check out his draft video, if you haven't already. It's very promising. He was considered a possible top-10 pick before this season and the combination of not getting off to a great start while a bunch of his peers did, took some shine of his luster but his talent is not to be underrated. It wouldn't be terribly surprising if the pitchers from the second-tier (Gray, Jungmann and Barnes) turned out equally as good as say Hultzen.

June 5, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Blogger Phil LeBlanc said...

Yes, they could turn out equally as good as Hultzen because Hultzen himself isn't viewed as a bonafide ace. He's simply regarded by most as the safest pick in the draft class which is what makes him so attractive.

June 5, 2011 at 9:31 PM

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June 5, 2011 at 9:57 PM

Blogger Olentangy said...

You didn't mention the possibility that Sterling could choose to just play football at Nebraska and end up in the NFL

June 5, 2011 at 9:59 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want Bauer. I dont see a fault with his regime, especially considering all the people you mentioned that have that routine are not injury prone. I like how he is unconventional.

June 5, 2011 at 11:58 PM

Blogger McGoldencrown said...

Starling wont play football. He's not the same caliber as Mauer was in H.S. He is a 4 star player rated as the 6th best at his position and 119th overall by Rivals. He isnt even the best recruit by Nebraska this season. On top of that, he is a rushing QB and passed for only 800 yds as a Sr. When he's handed 5 mil, he will take it and play the sport he is much, much better at. For the Kansas City Royals.

June 6, 2011 at 12:03 AM

Blogger McGoldencrown said...

...Im still holding out hope for Jeff Granger. I think he's just biding his time right now, keeping his options open. This is the perfect time for a comeback. He is more mature now.....I bet Mike Elkins can still zing the pigskin around....sigh

June 6, 2011 at 12:08 AM

Blogger Steve N said...

Clinkscales is a GREAT name!

June 6, 2011 at 6:30 AM

Blogger ScottM said...

@Joe Royal-- Nobody has a workout regime/routine like Bauer does. He has some similarities to Tim Lincecum, but he throws way more at full steam. He throws 250+ full steam pitches every game (130 in game, 60 or so pregame, and then 10-15 between each inning). Now that said I am not anti-Bauer.

@Rany-- Another comparison for Bundy might be Rick Porcello. Porcello was fast tracked because his fastball was a ++ pitch and his off speed stuff was considered average at worst.

June 6, 2011 at 7:05 AM

Blogger Michael said...

Orioles were long thought to be taking Dylan Bundy at #4, but word is now they are looking seriously at Archie Bradley, another flame throwing Oklahoma high schooler. I'd love it if Bundy fell in the Royals lap!

June 6, 2011 at 9:52 AM

Blogger Fast Eddie said...

Is Sherard Clinkscales any relation to Danny Clinkscales?

June 6, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Blogger Fast Eddie said...

Is Sherard Clinkscales any relation to Danny Clinkscales?

June 6, 2011 at 10:01 AM

Blogger Rany said...

Stephen,

Sherard Clinkscales was (and presumably still is) black, so I'm thinking no. Also, Danny's last name is Clinkscale.

June 6, 2011 at 12:06 PM

Blogger Kenneth said...

thank you for the illumination of a subject I knew nothing about before reading your article

June 6, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Blogger WSPA said...

My guess at this point is Bubba or Archie.

June 6, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Blogger jjhochunk said...

I'm not too worried about the first round pick. They will have the opportunity to get a top 5 talent, although I'm not as positive as Rany that the days worrying about signability are over (Colon last year seemed to emerge at the last minute and I wonder if $$ was a factor).

I am hoping to see more of the same aggressiveness in rounds 2-5 that the Royals have used to snag top prospects by paying over slot. Given the payroll situation, that should not be a problem.

The Royals are guaranteed to fall in the BA organizational rankings, but a good draft should keep them in the top 10 or maybe even top 5.

June 6, 2011 at 3:05 PM

Blogger George said...

If Bubba Starling is available at 5, the Royals would be crazy not to take him. Forget the hometown ties, this guy is the best player in the draft. GMDM has proven he can find pitching a little later (Montgomery, Lamb, Dwyer, et al).

Starling would fill in nicely as our CF of the future. Why is no one making a comp to (a healthy) Grady Sizemore?

June 6, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Blogger Kansas City said...

George is right. Have to take Starling. The possibility of a star center fielder locally produced trumps the long shot possibilitly that any particular pitcher will turn out to be a star.

June 6, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Blogger Kansas City said...

Done. Bubba is the future Royals centerfielder. But what does this do to Cain's future? I realized Bubba is at least two years away, 2013 at the earliest and probably 2014?

June 6, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Blogger Michael said...

Most people think Bubba is at least 3 years away, possibly 4. Cain has plenty of time to prove his worth before he has to worry about that.

June 6, 2011 at 10:11 PM

Blogger Antonio. said...

It does nothing to Cain's future. Let's play fantasyland and say all of our better young players make it. By the time Starling is done (Hosmer was done after little more than two full seasons in the minors, which is insane), you'd have to think the calendar at best says 2014. You'd have to think that it might be nearing a point of moving an Alex Gordon...Cain would be an amazing left fielder defensively and might have enough pop/speed combo to be a really good player over all.

June 6, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Blogger Kansas City said...

Hosmer got up in two years from draft day. That would be 2013 for Bubba. Probably won't happen, but my view is that if you have a stud, get him up as soon as practical, and we should be hoping for Bubba in 2013. You may be right about Gordon leaving to make room for Cain, but that probably is a step backward.

June 6, 2011 at 11:10 PM

Blogger Antonio. said...

Not with finances in mind. And by 2014, the best we can hope for (Hosmer is the insane outlier--Butler, a great hitter as a prospect, wasn't up for good until 4 years after he was drafted; Moose was drafted four years ago tomorrow), Gordon will be 30 and I think that's his last year before free agency. And by then, if there's no long term deal in place, it'll be time to start giving arb to the guys we're seeing this year. Also, while very good and maybe even more valuable as a total package, Bubba Starling isn't as nearly as good as Hosmer/Myers with the bat at this point in their development. Bubba is an athletic monster and he literally has an upside of 30/30 with great defense...but he's pretty raw as well. We might even be salivating over his Double-A numbers in 2014.

June 6, 2011 at 11:31 PM

Blogger Antonio. said...

Also, it'll be three years tomorrow since Hosmer was drafted. He signed late (literally considering it was after the deadline) and only played a few games in '08. He was crap in '09. HUGE in '10 and in the majors a month before his third year out of high school. He had a few games in Rookie, two complete seasons, and 29 games in Triple-A.

June 6, 2011 at 11:33 PM

Blogger George said...

Rany, where would Bubba fall in our organizational Top-10?

June 7, 2011 at 8:44 AM

Blogger Kansas City said...

I guess my bad on Hosmer and two years.

But I think what we need to keep in mind is that Moore is focused upon his own job security, which means making the Royals a contender by 2013, or 2014 at the absolute latest. It explains his odd decision to bring up Hosmer in May. He does not care about dollars spent in 2015 or 2016, because he will either be a success by then and able to handle the dollar issue in some fashion, or he will have been fired.

June 7, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Blogger Antonio. said...

Job security or not, I doubt that we'll ever see more than X-amount spent on team payroll. What that amount is, I really don't know. But under the Glass Family, can you really envision more than say 100 million on payroll? And all we've really seen out of Gordon is 1 season and two months of really good baseball. He's 27. I could easily see him being moved down the line. And this is if Cain and/or Starling and/or Myers doesn't falter, which is light years away from being a sure thing. Prospect developing is such a messy business. There will be plenty of options once Starling is ready, if he ever is. I'm also not sure a rushed Starling will be anything meaningful towards saving Dayton's job if Hosmer/Myers/Moose/Monty/Lamb/Dwyer/Crow haven't done that by then. The beginning was much rockier than now and he somehow got the job extension. If you're looking for a player that'll be here in '12/'13, look for him today.

June 7, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Blogger McGoldencrown said...

If the team wins consistantly with marketable home-grown talent, then KC will draw 30 grand per game as they did in the 80's when they outdrew the Chiefs. Todays generation are their children. Right now KC is already 6th or 7th in attendance in the AL. Their will be plenty of cash to sustain a well run organization in a Twins/ Ath/Rocks/Reds model. Daytons decision to go all HS in the draft is right on. Prep and Int talent is mouldable. Once the team gets good, you just feed the pipeline of HS talent (some exceptions of course). One thing Moore will never do and has never done is rush players. I believe that. I think he has done a fantastic job since the end of last season with the small exception of trying to slip Phil Humber thru waivers.

June 7, 2011 at 3:20 PM

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June 7, 2011 at 3:22 PM

Blogger Michael said...

Well, both Cole and Bundy were off the board, so I'm great with the Starling pick. They were the only two I could definitively say I'd rather see them take over Starling. Any second guessing will be whether we should have taken Rendon over him, but that won't be determined until many, many years from now.

June 7, 2011 at 4:42 PM

Blogger Antonio. said...

I wouldn't count on it. I hope for 30k nightly. But, there are a lot more alternative things to do and they're on TV almost nightly and it'll take quite awhile to build into the 30k. Even in '03, when people were saying attendance would go up when school was out and we had our first winner in ten years, we didn't draw 2 million. We didn't even average 22k. In our entire history, we only averaged 30k once, in '89 when it was 30,589. And like I said, there's a lot more to do now than in '89

June 7, 2011 at 7:22 PM

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