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"2013 Opening Day Preview, Part 1."

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Blogger Gary said...

Rany - love your blog. This is off topic but I wanted to thank you for your perspective on two of your older articles, Roots of the Revolution and Ten Years Later. I just posted them on the Washington State University EMBA website for my classmates to read. We are studying causality and one of the readings is a book called Freakonomics. What that book discusses are directly related to those two articles that you wrote and I happened to remember both of them. Our program is one where the "student" body are all late 30s, early 40s executives that bring a collective expertise to the table in the learning experience, but from all walks of life and perspectives and your perspective added significant learning value to our conversation on the subject of causality and psychology of human behavior. Go figure, this is an accounting course.

February 21, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Blogger Kansas City said...

Is Dyson the kind of guy who is more valuable than statistics suggest. For example, does his speed "win" games which would not appear in WAR analysis. If he pinch runs for Butler or Frenchy (assuming he ever got on base) in a tied game, stole second and then scored only due to his speed, would he be responsible for that win, but not credited for it in any meaningful statistical way?

February 21, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Blogger Antonio. said...

He wouldn't get credit for that win because he's not responsible for that win. There's 20-some outs that occurred before that point. WAR would credit him properly. Dyson did very well in the WAR department (pun!) for a part time player.

February 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Blogger KHAZAD said...

" I’m operating under the assumption that Clayton Kershaw wouldn’t beat Hochevar out for that spot"

That's awesome snark, but unfortunately for the Royals, probably true. We might also operate under the assumption that Giancarlo Stanton wouldn't beat out Frenchy for the right field spot.

February 22, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

"I hope Ned Yost is exaggerating when he talks about starting Salvador Perez eight days a week – but remember, this is the same manager who started Jason Kendall behind the plate 149 times in 2008, the most starts by a catcher in the last 30 years.

This is exactly the kind of shit you love to throw out there to make the Royals sound *way* worse than they really are. Jason Kendall led the majors in games started every year from 2000-2007 as well, save for 2001. He started 145, 140, 145, 145, 146, 141, and 130 games -- two of those seasons for Billy Beane's A's. You throw out the 149 games thing to make Ned Yost sound bad, then (reluctantly) three paragraphs later sort of kind of point out Kendall caught that many games pretty much every year.

I’m operating under the assumption that Clayton Kershaw wouldn’t beat Hochevar out for that spot.

More ridiculous shit Rany loves to write just because it makes the Royals look bad, even if it's not remotely true.

Much like Luis Mendoza, I’ve grown rather fond of Dyson after originally dissing him as not major league-caliber.

That's because you can only judge players based on their previous stats or projections. MLB GMs have to see players for what they are way, way before that..


February 22, 2013 at 3:48 PM

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February 23, 2013 at 12:31 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

Why do you come to this blog if u feel that way? The only people that will read your comment are people that come here who respect his opinion and care what he has to say about the Royals. So, to everyone, you sound like a fool.

February 23, 2013 at 12:35 AM

Blogger Antonio. said...

Well, the Hoche/Kershaw comment was said in jest. It's not to make the Royals look bad, but to make a joke as to how committed the Royals are to starting Hochevar in the 5th spot.

And there's a difference between Beane and the Brewers doing it and the Royals doing it. The biggest difference is Kendall's age. Kenny was much older and clearly regressing rapidly. He was bad in Oakland, worse in Milwaukee and atrocious in Kansas City. You look for a replacement pretty much anywhere you can get him.

February 23, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Blogger Kansas City said...

You don't need to call "unknown" a "fool," but it is odd that he writes here. I assume most everyone who comes here at least considers Rany interesting. To me, he is very hard not to like (other than when he delves into politics). The critisiam by Unknown also is not very good. Rany provided information about the earlier years of Kendall, he made a joke about Hoch, and criticized himself on Mendoza and Dyson. Hard to see why unknown would rip him on any of that unless, simimlar to his claimm that Rany just wants to make the Royals look bad, i.e., Unknown just wants to try to make Rany look bad.

February 23, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Blogger Kansas City said...

Antonio:

How would WAR credit Dyson properly in my scenario of him pinch running and "winning" the game? I'm no WAR exeprt, but I've always wondered about whether it properly takes into account all types of "game winning" plays in the real world (an answer may be that it does not try to do so). It just seems to me that "speed" plays may be a component of baseball that is very hard to assess with statistics. And I'm a guy who thinks speed generally is overrate in baseball. I just think in some situations speed can be extremely valuable and wonder if WAR recognizes that, or if it is just one part of the game where WAR does not work. Really interested in this if anyone knows the answer.

February 23, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Blogger Colin said...

WAR estimates a player's value statistically, not by evaulating the importance of an individual play in a single game. You might be interested in a stat like Win Probability Added if you're looking for that kind of info.

February 24, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Blogger Kansas City said...

Does Win Probability Added cover more than hitting? If so, does it cover the value of a stolen base or scoring in some situation based entirely on your speed?

February 25, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Blogger Antonio. said...

How it takes baserunning into account, I do not know. But it does take baserunning into account. (Makes sense because there's no way Dyson does as well as he did without it counting.) But, seriously, Dyson doesn't win that game. He finishes that game. That game is won by the different variables that occur throughout the game, from the first pitch to Dyson crossing the plate.

February 28, 2013 at 10:33 PM

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