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"Trade Deadline Blowout!"

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Anonymous Fast Eddie said...

Royals acquire "speedy" Josh Anderson (who had been DFA) from Tigers for cash. When I saw "speedy", I knew he was another no walk, no power guy. I looked at the stats at Baseball Reference and I am right. I don't know why the Yankees would have been about to move on him. Teahen not in the lineup today and this move may mean Teahen will be traded later today.

July 30, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Anonymous Roy in Omaha said...

Rany, I think Teahen and DeJesus ARE blocking the way of a prospect in the outfield. That guy is Jordan Parraz.He was just promoted to Omaha the other day from Arkansas where his line was .358/.451/.553 (and 1.005 OPS!!!). He's only 24. He has a career minor league OBP of .381! He has been playing right field. You can't tell me that this guy would not hit at least as well, if not better than Guillen and ,perhaps any of the other collection of crud we have in the outfield. I sure wanna see the Royals take that .381 OBP out for a spin to see what it can do. Are you watching this guy? He looks like a player to me

July 30, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

"Hochevar, like roughly two-thirds of the good players on your roster, was someone you inherited, not someone you acquired."

So Dayton inherited 2 good players?

July 30, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany, I posted this on the last article just before you published this one but I wanted to get your take on whether you have any clever nicknames for Trey Hillman (other than Wyatt Earp). After his handling of the blowpen last night, the best thing I could come up with was Trey Killwins. Care to add your favorite?

July 30, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure the Twins would laugh heartily at the prospect of trading Gomez or Revere for Callaspo, even straight up.

July 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopefully Josh Anderson becomes a slight upgrade in the Mitch Maier department, with Mitch back down to AAA to remake the unholy trinity of Maier, Lubanski, and Costa, three more high round draft picks doomed to never contribute to the Royals OF.

July 30, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm with you on trading Callaspo. Sell high on that guy. His defense is horrible and I cringe when the ball is hit to him. It's kind of like Gary in right field on my Little League team. You were scared out of your mind when the ball went out there and every time he caught it you let out a huge sigh of relief. If we could get any of those guys from the Twins I'd be in. I don't see them trading within the division though.

July 30, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

From the Star, Hillman on pitching Chen instead of Davies:

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“We’re going stay in order with Chen,” Hillman said. “A lefty against Tampa Bay is a better matchup. They’re not as stealth (against lefties) -- they’re still pretty good; everybody knows that.

“We’ll give Bruce another shot at it. He monitored the damage OK here. He obviously still needs to locate better and keep the ball in the ballpark.”

Chen is 0-5 with a 6.39 ERA but avoided a loss Monday for the first time in six starts when he allowed three runs and eight hits over five innings against the Orioles. He got a no-decision when the Royals rallied for a 5-3 victory.

Davies is scheduled to pitch tonight for Omaha, where he is 4-2 with a 2.06 ERA in seven starts since losing his job in the big-league rotation. He is scheduled to start Friday against Iowa.

“Statistics between there and here can, sometimes, be misleading,” Hillman said. “He has improved, but we still want to see him command the fastball better.”

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Those pesky statistics, with all their facts, figures, and decimal points!

July 30, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think baseball scouts, like most people, are visual. Those numbers seem abstract, and involve math(!) and spreadsheets, but silky smooth arm action that you can see with your own two eyes, well, some people are more comfortable with that.

So, Rany, here's my idea: you need to invest in some enormous posterboard pie charts, line graphs, bar graphs, pictographs (for Trey and Dayton), the whole works... to visualize some of these ideas. You know, like you're on the floor of the Congress trying to show everyone on CSPAN just how big the deficit/debt/recession is, or like you're Ross Perot in prime time! Then people will take notice, because there are pictures. Pictures are what is missing from your analysis...

See, Replacement level is THIS HIGH, Betancourt is only this high. League Average OBP is THIS HIGH, everyone you've ever signed is only this high.

July 30, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

I agree wholeheartedly with this article. The move that came out about the same time as this post was Josh Anderson, a move I am pleased with. I have heard some complaints and how he has no plate discipline and poor baserunning skills, but he was free and was a high prospect a very short time ago. I also think Callaspo trade would be very prudent, I love Alberto and the fact he's one of 4 MLB quality hitters we have, but we do have some very capable prospects on the way. Bianchi has looked good here in NWA and I think he beats out Betancourt in Spring of next year if he is forced into 2B this year.

July 30, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the idea that the Brewers would trade Escobar for Bannister to be rather optimistic. Escobar is a fantastic prospect, broad based skills now that can project.

July 30, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree whole heartedly Rany, and I wrote something about what the Royals SHOULD HAVE DONE (I personally think it is too late to do anything significant at this deadline) a few hours before you wrote thei over @ Royals Review...

http://www.royalsreview.com/2009/7/29/968613/shouldnt-we-be-doing-what-the

July 30, 2009 at 3:14 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love Banny and hope he stays in KC, but for Escobar? He is one of the TOP prospects (higher than Moustakas) in baseball at a tough position. It would cost more than Bannister to get him, especially since the Brewers don't have much solid at SS now. If we threw in Moustakas and tried to get another P from them, the trade would be evened out.

The idea of a Callaspo for Gomez trade is pretty solid.

Then again, none of these will happen. Heck, we just took Josh Anderson for cash.

July 30, 2009 at 3:33 PM

Anonymous Dave said...

No way they give up Escobar for Bannister. He was deemed off limits when they were exploring a deal for Halladay. If they wouldn't let him go in a package for a Cy Young winner, they aren't shipping him out for Brian freaking Bannister.

July 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Anonymous Dave said...

By the way, I like the Anderson pick up. It doesn't cost us anything and he had great numbers in AAA last year. I think he was even the player of the year. At least he takes Maier or Freel's place on the roster, which is an upgrade. Sure am glad we gave up a PTBNL for Freel.....

July 30, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Blogger yy said...

Rany, I remember somebody who was calling for the Royals to draft Lincecum.

It was you. In fact, everytime I think of Lincecum I think of Rany because you were pushing so hard for the Royals to draft him #1.

http://www.robneyer.com/robrany.html

Here's some selected quotes from a year after that draft:

But the problem is that he was the #1 pick, and that the Royals should have taken Andrew Miller or Tim Lincecum. And no, that's not hindsight. That's what people were saying at the time


The flip side is that when a team, say, drafts a pitcher #1 overall because he looked better than ever in five starts in indy ball after sitting out a year, instead of either of two college juniors who had been dominant for the past two seasons ... well, that's how you convince yourself to take Luke Hochevar instead of Andrew Miller or Tim Lincecum.


As for Moustakas ... I really don't care. The Royals screwed the pooch last year by taking Hochevar, who a year later doesn't even rank among the Top 5 college pitchers in that draft (Andrew Miller, Tim Lincecum, Brandon Morrow, Joba Chamberlain, for starters).

July 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What does this say about the Royals:

Another viable option, if the Royals actually had a middle infielder waiting to play in AAA, would be to keep Callaspo and DH him.

Stop laughing. He would actually be a huge upgrade at DH over Jacobs, despite not being what is perceived to be average for a DH.

Of course, this should have applied to Esteban German a couple of years back, and Jose Offerman before that - both would have been upgrades over the DHs at that time, but were played in the field instead, could hit, but fielded poorly enough to cancel out their hitting.

This organzation simply doesn't get it.

July 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Anonymous Ben said...

Andrew Miller and Brandon Morrow have been busts so far in their careers. You can play this shoulda woulda coulda game in every year of every draft in every sport. Lincecum didn't slide because of signability. He slid because nobody saw him dominating from the very beginning. I hate when people say "If only we would have drafted Player X, Y, and Z.....we'd have an all-star team!" Idiots.

July 30, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Anonymous Mills said...

"NO ONE thought, on draft day, 2006, that Tim Lincecum was the #1 player in the draft."
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Wrong. I distinctly remember reading articles discussing who the Royals should pick No. 1. Miller was (as you pointed out) the widely recognized leader in the clubhouse, but all 3 were discussed as options. I would say that there was a better feeling about Timmy than Luke around most publications. Nobody doubted Tim's ability, just his durability.

July 30, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Blogger Rany said...

I chose my words carefully. I didn't say that no one thought the Royals should take Lincecum #1 - I said that no one thought he was the #1 player in the draft. As I've said on a few occasions in the past, my colleague Kevin Goldstein thought that the Royals should take Lincecum - but more on the principle that he was not distinctly worse than Miller or Hochevar, and would sign far more cheaply and quickly.

I do think that if money were not an object - and it was - at least 16 out of 30 major league teams would have taken Miller #1. The Royals did not, and wound up with a pitcher who's better than Miller. That's not a coup, but my point is that it wasn't a mistake either.

July 30, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Hey Rany a quick thought for you:

If you take a look at the supposed-proposed hauls for Halladay (Holland-Smoak-Borbon from TX; Happ & Drabek from PHI), if you were Dayton could you possibly consider trading Zack?

Reason being - my (and I believe most others') interpretation of the Royals org depth is that the best collection of talent right now is 18 & 19 years old, meaning a hopefully most-probable Royals push for the division is at earliest, three years away. You could argue the Royals need to be seriously taking a look at the team that is establishing itself in 2011 and hopefully playing .500 ball at the point that guys like Mous & Hosmer first arrive, and I have serious questions about the organizational depth to allow this team to have ANY established (replacement-level or above) major leaguers around that time. In that vein, executing a 3-for-1 isn't such a far-out idea for an organization that isn't nearly as close to breaking through as it thinks it is, in my opinion.

July 30, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Anonymous Carl Willingham said...

Gotta say I'm real sick of the Dayton Moore double talk. Between him and Hillman making up whatever is most self serving as they go along I'm pretty tired of the whole scene. To try to take "credit" for Hochevar after distancing himself from the pick gives us all a good insight into Moore's thinking and character. Literally the only thing he has accomplished of significance was getting Glass to pony up some money to sign some highly regared HS players in the draft and signing Meche. The rest of his moves have been uninspired to put it nicely. Having Hillman running your team after his showing the past two years is enough to be fired.

July 30, 2009 at 8:21 PM

Blogger Andrew said...

Rany, may I humbly suggest that you start attending a LOT more Red Sox games? You could throw in 40-50 visits to Yankee Stadium every year while you're at it, too....

July 30, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Anonymous Dave said...

No.....the other option being talked about besides Miller was not Lincecum. It was Brad Lincoln who ended up going to Pittsburgh. He had all those Oswalt comparisons and ended up blowing out his arm and having surgery. His career isn't over but aren't you glad we didn't take him?

July 30, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Blogger Clint said...

the Royals will never trade Callaspo now that you said they should.. you should have waited till after the deadline! sheesh..

July 30, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Blogger RickMcKC said...

"Hochevar, like roughly two-thirds of the good players on your roster, was someone you inherited, not someone you acquired."

I re-read that article you linked to, Rany, and my sense was that the writer implied DM was responsible but DM did not say it himself.

Not trying to be snippy here, but can you produce a quote from DM where he takes credit for Hoch?

July 30, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Blogger Grain of Salt said...

Ohhh Criminy! Russ Ortiz was released from the Astros. A six-pack of Boulevard Wheat says GMDM broke wood and will use said wood to sign him. Perhaps we should exchange "Royals" for "Braves Midwest?" Ahem, then our abbreviation would be "B.M." - which pretty much crystalizes our season. (insert toilet flush)

July 30, 2009 at 11:45 PM

Blogger Grain of Salt said...

Found an old interview of GMDM by Sam Mellinger:
SM - You’ve said you make a point to read The Star everyday, which obviously we like. What else is on your list of daily reads?

GMDM - The Bible. I try to read the bible everyday.

SM - Favorite verse?

GMDM - Philippians 4:13. “You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you.” That’s probably my favorite.

Perhaps GMDM should brush up on Galatians 6:7-8: "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

July 30, 2009 at 11:58 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

if jesus cared about baseball, we wouldn't suck so badly.

July 31, 2009 at 8:36 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you saying Jesus Christ can't hit a curve ball?

July 31, 2009 at 8:40 AM

Anonymous Paul J. said...

Re: Callaspo at DH, I am greatly in favor of that. DeJesus in LF, Anderson/Maier/Freel in CF, Teahen in RF, Bloomquist at 2B. That keeps Callaspo's offense in the lineup AND significantly upgrades the defense.

July 31, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

who wants to take bets that in 10+/- years time Bannister becomes the best pitching coach in the league...for some team other than KC.

July 31, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Anonymous Wabbitkiller said...

Rany,

None of the trades you propose will happen for one reason: They make too much sense. The Royals don't use common sense and logic, they go off of hunches. Surely yyou haven;t forgotten that Rany.

July 31, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Anonymous Wabbitkiller said...

I almost forgot to comment on THIS quote:

"But little is being offered in return. Without offering specifics, one Royals official said, “It’s like other teams think we’re going to give guys away for nothing.”

Gee Royals, why do you think people assume that you'll give away your talent for nothing? Maybe it has to do with the fact that you just gave away TWO prospects for some garbage (Yuni Betancourt). That MIGHT have something to do with it. Maybe giving Leo Nunez for Mike Jacobs might give other teams the impression that you're willing to part with talented players in exchange for GARBAGE. Gee, I can't see HOW other teams would get that impression! Memo to Royals execs: Are you really that freaking stupid?!?

July 31, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just want to see some movement. Trades for the sake of trades. Shuffle the deck a little and see what happens.

July 31, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Teahen to the Giants for 2 AAA prospects...

July 31, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Anonymous Yunieskiy Betancourt said...

How do ya like me now? You trade for me to replace Tony Pena Jr., and now I'm hitting just like he used to!

This is karmic retribution for protecting David Howard and giving Jeff Conine away. Your shortstops will forever be terrible!

YOU WILL NEVER ESCAPE THE CURSE OF DAVID HOWARD, ROYALS!!! HAHAHAHA!

July 31, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Blogger JB said...

The problem in my opinion is that there's no obvious plan that doesn't conflict with everything GMDM has said before-why does it appear like he's trying for 2010 when everything we can see says it's time to sell off what little value he has?

The results speak for themselves:
http://grittyandclutch.blogspot.com/2009/08/actions-speak-louder-than-words-and.html

August 1, 2009 at 2:57 AM

Anonymous FAst Eddie said...

More like trade deadline blow off.

August 1, 2009 at 7:35 PM

Anonymous Chance said...

Did Ross Gload give his collection of pictures of Dayton Moore having sex with Trey Hillman and a goat back to the Royals when he was traded? Or did he give them to Callaspo? Or Guillen? Or Jacobs? Or does Bettancourt have them now?

August 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Anonymous Tony Pena Jr. said...

No, Chance, I'm the one who has the pictures. That's why the team agreed to make me into a pitcher rather than release me. If all goes well, I will be back in K.C. posting a 5.50 ERA before this time next year!

August 3, 2009 at 4:35 PM

Anonymous Bill James said...

Rany, your true destiny still beckons to you and you must answer. Your statistical genius must not be wasted on the unwashed masses of Kansas City. Verily I say unto you that the Commoners of K.C. who make false claim to Royal status will be smitten one hundred times annually forever, until they accept the truth written in the Abstracts long ago! You must follow Saint Bill, the Patron Saint of Sabermetrics, take a pilgrimage to the great city of Boston, and follow their mighty host!

August 4, 2009 at 7:10 AM

Anonymous Chris said...

So, Bill, did you tell Theo which of the Bosox players should use steroids and what stats did you use to arrive at your conclusion?

The titles be tainted!!

August 4, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, join the sycophant masses that have materialized over the past 6 years and that worship at the alter of the artificially enhanced.

91 years and counting chowda heads...

August 4, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Blogger noseycat said...

Rany, can we get a run down on the minor league affiliates and top prospects? Maybe that will rekindle some of the hope that has been wasted on the current big league club.

August 4, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Anonymous Dayton Moore said...

Tell Bill James that I WILL NOT accept his false gospel, not now, not then, and NOT EVER! We will not accept the concept of the Holy On-Base Percentage, nor will be worship at the Altar of Runs Created or read the so-called sacred book of Win Shares daily. We will burn any Abstract we see and we will revile the accursed name of Bill James as long as we live! The heretics of the world may go to Boston, but I, Dayton Moore, will continue in the ancient ways!

August 5, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany:


So I think the bar needs to be set. If the Royals increase their payroll to <= $78 million next season, or don't increase it at all, the fans should boycott...not go to games, etc.

Is that an unreasonable thing to do?

August 5, 2009 at 5:27 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

$78MM is too low.

$85MM minimum.

If not, strike! Let him try to move the team. No city in their right mind would want a team owned by David Glass and if they did, well, they deserve their fate.

To hell with Glass (and his little dog too!).

August 6, 2009 at 1:30 PM

Blogger Ryan said...

What's the point of increasing to $85 million payroll, if Moore keeps spending money on multi-year deals for people like Kyle Farnsworth and Jose Guillen?

BTW, 2008 Draft Update:
Gordon Beckham is starting for the White Sox and is batting over .300.

Switch hitting, slugging first baseman Justin Smoak will probably be called up to the Rangers this year.

Catcher, Buster Posey, is slated to start for the Giants next year.

The Royals' Eric Hosmer is in Single A.

August 6, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

BOYCOTT 2009



Who's going to spearhead this? If Glass doesn't increase payroll to $8X million, then boycott the games.


Somebody get that URL purchased.

Something like "KCROYALSBOTTOMLINE.COM" or something.

August 6, 2009 at 6:28 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Instead of Callaspo DH'ing... why not try him in right field? Bloomquist could finally log some time at his natural position while keeping Callaspo's bat in the lineup. Leave Teahan at first where he's a defensive upgrade over Billy. DH Billy like last night and close the book on Jacobs.

Callaspo's offensive numbers stack up as a serviceable outfielder.

It'd be less of a leap of faith than having Betancourt on the team at all, and less of a project than TPJ learning to pitch. If he never becomes a "good" outfielder, he's still more valuable than Guillen.

Plus, if his power is starting to bloom, he might yet have some trade value by next year's deadline if he's something other than a bad second baseman.

August 7, 2009 at 8:38 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeremy,
Couldn't hurt to put Callaspo out there, but you and I know that won't happen for 2 reasons.

First, for some reason, this organization, (Hillman or Moore) just loves Mitch.

Two, aside from whether Callaspo's arm is strong enough to throw from RF to 3rd, I think moving him out there at this late date would send a lot of bad signals to the fans that they (management) doesn't know what they are doing and are hunting & pecking for solutions.

I don't think there is a postion on a major legaue starting roster for Callaspo. I seriously doubt he's going to improve to be a better 2nd baseman than he already is. Too bad, because the kid can hit. Who knows, perhaps if he's committed over the offseason, he could come back and be a serviceable 2nd baseman.

August 7, 2009 at 12:53 PM

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