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"Deadline Decisions."

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Anonymous Boots said...

Once again, great article. Glad to see someone else out there isn't completely pessimistic with the Royals playing fairly well and the farm system doing very well.

July 7, 2010 at 2:05 PM

Blogger WSPA said...

Great stuff. Bloomquist isn't a switch-hitter, though. Right now, Betemit is more like Callaspo.

July 7, 2010 at 2:16 PM

Blogger Rany said...

Fixed. I have no idea how I got it in my head that Bloomquist could switch-hit.

July 7, 2010 at 2:20 PM

Anonymous Will said...

The Alex Gordon fiasco happened two months ago. It's almost like we've forgotten this has happened, but it did, and it is completely insane. Still a really big red flag.

July 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

an interesting angle i would have liked to see in the article would have been, what type of prospects does the royals system need?

July 7, 2010 at 2:43 PM

Blogger Bookfest said...

When you say the Royals should look for a top-15 prospect in return for Bannister, do you mean a top-15 overall prospect, or one who would be top-15 for the Royals? The former seems way too high, and the latter too low to me

July 7, 2010 at 2:46 PM

Blogger blairjjohnson said...

Great read. Really liked the way you broke down each potential trade. I'm surprised there was no mention of Meche, though. Will he simply retire at season's end? Your thoughts on next year's opening-day rotation?

July 7, 2010 at 2:51 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great again as usual. How long until the Anonymous posters come to complain that you're a Pro-DM turncoat? I always get a giggle out of those.

July 7, 2010 at 2:53 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very informative. I look forward to seeing what actually happens. I have to admit I will be happy as long as the answer isn't "nothing". I do hope, along with you, that a couple of good weeks has not added a rose colored glass perpective for DM as far as the current team goes.

July 7, 2010 at 3:32 PM

Anonymous Ben F said...

If Moore buys instead of sells at the deadline, will you leave your seat on the Moore Train?

July 7, 2010 at 3:36 PM

Anonymous kw said...

Allow me a sappy, sentimental moment.

Now I'm not saying it doesn't make sense to trade DeJesus or that the Royals shouldn't do it. On the other hand, he appears to be a good guy who is talented, plays hard and has a good time out there. In short, he's just fun to root for.

It's just too bad baseball discussions now are all about the wheeling and dealing, with experts critiquing every move. The game was more fun when it was about rooting for the good guys.

OK, I got that out of my system. Nice post, by the way.

July 7, 2010 at 3:49 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glad that you didn't mention Soria like some sources have. That would be ludicrous. Dayton needs to make trades and Yost needs to get Kendell out of the 2 hole and line up twice a week. Forget Ankiel as I think he is not coming back for us.

July 7, 2010 at 3:54 PM

Blogger Phil said...

I like this arbitrary odds breakdown you created, Rany. Now lets do one that would truly help the team.

Odds that Jason Kendall acquires the ebola virus and is placed on the 730 day DL: ??%

July 7, 2010 at 4:12 PM

Blogger Michael said...

I'm worried that Dayton will start dealing from our plethora of young talent to add pieces to attempt to contend. Unless he adds Cliff Lee, who would get us draft pick compensation, that would be a very bad idea, in my opinion.

July 7, 2010 at 4:25 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like your breakdown here Rany. That, plus the AL Central since day 1 of Yost, gives me hope...

May 14 - July 6

30-18 (.625) White Sox
26-23 (.531) Royals
25-22 (.532) Tigers
24-26 (.480) Twins
20-31 (.392) Indians

...Royals have 2nd most wins, & 3rd best winning percentage. I did NOT think this team was capable of playing such a good 49 game stretch. This is almost 1/3 of the season, not just 1 month good stretch or something.

July 7, 2010 at 4:26 PM

Blogger Karte said...

@ToppsBlog - I hope GMDM doesn't read your post. KC will not win the division this year, and needs to be sellers, not buyers. Even if the trend you showed continues, KC will only make 3rd place in the division.

I do think it is time to start talking to Ned Yost about taking off the "interim" from his manager title, though. He clearly provides something that KC was missing under Hillman.

July 7, 2010 at 4:53 PM

Anonymous Chris M said...

Rany, what could we net if Boston was interested in trading for BOTH DeJesus and Aviles? The Red Sox injury problems at basically all positions and us trading both players would allow the Royals to take probably anything that Boston has. They get two players that can fill in at multiple positions for when their injured players return. I'm not an expert but who do you think we could get back from Boston if that trade was made? Great, great article, as usual!!

July 7, 2010 at 5:22 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

DeJesus may not be in the top 10 outfielders, but boy howdy Dave is not chopped liver.

It might serve the Royals well to look at resigning him simply due to building better fan loyalty. Those 15 year olds wearing his replica jerseys are the future of baseball in KC.

July 7, 2010 at 5:49 PM

Blogger Charles Winters said...

@bookfest: I think he means top 15 in organization not top 15 in baseball in this article.

This was really good, but I am still naggingly worried that Dayton does not know we are sellers... I don't know why he wouldn't know - he should.

July 7, 2010 at 6:08 PM

Blogger Charles Winters said...

@toppsblog

Isn't 26-23 about the same likelihood for a bad team as 18-11?

July 7, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Blogger Joe(l) the Pastor said...

Love your posts, Rany. First time commenting on the blog. Are you concerned about the high number of errors by Moustakas? Do you think this is coachable or is he going to be a liability at 3rd base defensively?

July 7, 2010 at 6:13 PM

Blogger Kansas City said...

Great work as usual. Should have included Soria, Butler and Grienke for article to be complete. There are obvious reasons not to trade them, but a GM has to be considering all options and Greinke and Soria would produce very high return.

At the risk of stating the obvious, for any of the good players (ones who we would want to have on our team next year), it is a matter of what you get in return. It would take a confident GM to deal DeJesus or any other good player for a prospect, but it is certainly logical to deal DeJesus now. He is probably at peak value and, even though he would be valuable in 2011, we probably will not be in a position to contend.

July 7, 2010 at 8:01 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany- Reading your fluff pieces on Daddy Dayton....sickening. You are getting stalkerish now. Do you choke yourself thinking about Daytons next big FA whiff? Unreal.

Dayton sucks. Rany sucks. This blog sucks. You turncoats deserve each other.

July 7, 2010 at 11:33 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still can't believe you wrote the words, "as a courtesy to Flanagan".

Come on, man... the guy has been atrocious long before it became public he and Brian Murphy were going steady.

July 8, 2010 at 1:12 AM

Blogger tookee said...

Love the insights - you've been prolific lately and it's our benefit. I agree with your conclusion and expect Farnsworth, et al. to be moved. I hope they keep DeJesus as he is a good OF'er and not expensive - he could be a plus for next year (and loyal fans love him). It would be nice to see him on a team that contends next year - a reward for all the hard years.

July 8, 2010 at 1:18 AM

Blogger Colonel Kustard said...

@Anonymous seems to be two-faced. I wish I could direct comment toward him/her, but his/her inconsistency baffles me. Keep up the great work, Rany.

July 8, 2010 at 1:35 AM

Blogger Nathan said...

I think re-singing DeJesus at least deserves to be listed as option number 4. He's not old yet, and it remains possible that this year represents an upward trajectory, not just a career year. Also, one thing the Royals don't seem to have in the farm system is any sort of centerfielder with a bat.

July 8, 2010 at 4:24 AM

Blogger AFKCFan said...

The farm system certainly does "overfloweth"...and at all levels. I know the minors are more about the individual prospects, but team success is a plus. Today finds Idaho Falls in 1st place; Burlinton Royal's tied for 1st; AZL Royals in 1st; Burlington one game out of 1st; Wiliminton and NW Ark in 1st place; Omaha is one game out of first. That, my friends, is SICK!

July 8, 2010 at 5:58 AM

Blogger kcghost said...

Not only does GMDM need to be in sell mode, he has to 1) get reasonable value for his chips, and 2) not trade away any of the hot young talent in the minors to sweeten a deal.

Right now the farm system is just exploding with guys who are really stepping up. The amazing thing is that Crow and Melville haven't done squat. Colon hasn't either but he just signed. The only problem with all this good news is most of the breakout guys are in High A ball. Montgomery and Moustakis are dominating AA ball, but you have to believe GMDM is going to make them show something at AAA before giving them a chance.

Meanwhile in Omaha, Gordon is really coming back to earth. Hopefully, that is just a blip on the radar.

July 8, 2010 at 8:31 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great read. Only thing I disagree about is the return they'll get for DeJesus/Aviles. From an objective standpoint, you may be right about their value. But trying to get a Cliff Lee-like haul seems like tough demand.

J.C. Ramirez, Phillippe Aumont and Tyson Gillies were legit prospects (although Aumont might've been riding on too much false hype) and I don't think any team would shell out that much for Aviles or DeJesus.

July 8, 2010 at 9:10 AM

Anonymous Ted said...

Here are the latest Elias rankings for FA compensation in the draft.

DeJesus - A
Podsednik - B
Guillen - B

Farnsworth is on the cusp of becoming a B.

DeJesus is probably the only one of the above who would be worth offering.

For our players who won't be free agents, Jason Kendall (B), Billy Butler (B), Alberto Callaspo (B), Zack Greinke (A), and Joakim Soria (A) all made the list. Usually we're lucky to get 2-3 players on the list at all. Yet another sign that we've improved from being a bad team to a very mediocre one.

July 8, 2010 at 9:25 AM

Blogger Nathan said...

"I don't think any team would shell out that much for Aviles or DeJesus."

Then don't trade them.

1) The possibility of contending in 2011, while remote, is nonzero.

2) Either or both can still be traded over the winter or during the season next year.

3) Re-signing either player, or just taking the draft picks when they leave, would not be disastrous.

So why accept less than they're objectively worth?

I think the Royals would be foolish to get in a must-trade mindset with either of these guys. Guillen and Podsednick are another story.

July 8, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Anonymous Jason Dixon said...

If Moore gets into any sort of trading frenzy I will be interested to see if he trades one of his own acquisition, as opposed to his continuing cleaning of the House of Baird. If Farny, Pods, and Guillen are still all in KC and DeJesus and Aviles are gone I will be disappointed, but not shocked.

July 8, 2010 at 10:56 AM

Anonymous Nick Cola said...

Good Article Rany. I'd like to see the Royals target a young, natural OF they could build around. I liked the thought of getting Fowler in Colorado on the cheap until he went crazy a week ago.

Need to be looking at getting some guys who are more natural out there than it being just a graveyard for guys in the system who can't field ground balls. Take a look at some young guys who have a good pedigree and trade a few of these young pitchers before they flame out.

July 8, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany- you are a pompous ass. I would kick you square in the balls if I could. You're "on the Dayton train now"? After everything you said? How can anyone believe a word you write now, snake?

Stick with popping zits, clown.

July 8, 2010 at 6:43 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a Rockies fan that called for the head of O'Dowd on more than one occasion I can understand the Moore backlash, that said Dealin Dan learned the value of building from within and I certainly hope that is the road Moore takes as well

July 8, 2010 at 7:59 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany- Back when men were men, traitors and turncoats were hung. So, not everything about evolution is good. In a word, turncoat, you SUCK.

Rany- your blog is the epitome of self serving. Fair weather doesn't even begin to describe you. I don't know how anyone can take you seriously anymore. You're a piece of garbage, Pimpleman.

July 8, 2010 at 9:29 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

An excellent analysis as always. There is one twist that I would like to highlight that several others have mentioned. Although the farm system is as deep as it perhaps has every been, there are a few areas that could benefit from the addition of prospects at the upper levels - middle infield and catcher. So I could see the Royals perhaps adding a 10-20 prospect to any deal to get a better prospect at these positions.

Again, there is more depth at SS and C than there has been in generations. However, I think the Royals (as well as just about any other team) could benefit from a solid AA-AAA prospect at those positions. This is the one area where I could see and support the Royals including a solid minor league prospect in a deal.

July 8, 2010 at 9:50 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany- what will your tune be when Daytin trades Moose or Monty for some 35 yr old veteran, in Daytons push for a 2010 Pennant? No going back now- you hitched you wagon to Dayton- worst GM in baseball. Now ride it to the bitter end.

July 8, 2010 at 9:59 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck you rany. I want to punch you and Dayton in the face. This team will never win with Dayton as GM and this blog will always suck with you as the writer. Go OD on Accutane you fucking fraud.

July 8, 2010 at 10:01 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Don't you love comments from our "anonymous" writer that are crude/rude/profane?? At least make up some ridiculous name you moron!

July 8, 2010 at 10:39 PM

Blogger Michael said...

Here's an idea "Anonymous". If you don't like this blog, create one of your own and bash the living hell out of Rany and Dayton and your neighbors puppy, for all I care. Or better yet, just don't read Rany's blog.

I also like how you say the same crap over and over and over and over and over and over and over...but you never really say anything of substance. You have absolutely nothing intelligent to say. So maybe starting your own blog wouldn't be such a good idea after all....

July 9, 2010 at 1:20 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great stuff Rany.

Two questions.

One, I would really like to see the Royals add either the Twins or Yankees catching prospect. (Atlhough it seems that maybe Montero is going to Seattle in a Lee deal.) Maybe I am being shortsighted, but that seems to be an area of need. Couldn't we get either of those in a trade including DeJesus. Would that be a good idea? How much should we give up to get either of those catching prospects?

Two, maybe I am reading too much into this, but it seems to me that the brass went to Gordon and said you can hit .400 in AAA, but we are not bringing you up until you work on the deficiencies in your swing. As he is now working on those, this is why we see him coming back to earth a bit. Is that likely?

My last comment is that everyone talks about being buyers or sellers. The Royals should definitely be sellers, but the interesting part of this is that I think the Royals improve by selling. Maybe I am crazy, but Kila and Gordon in the lineup instead of Pods and Guillen is an improvement every way I look at it. I don't think there is any reason to quit attempting to win the division just because you sell.

July 9, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany sucks.

July 9, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany sucks.

July 9, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Anonymous Piece of Zit said...

Anonymous seriously needs medication. Aside from the monomaniacal hatred of GMDM, the unhealthy lack of anger control and propensity towards violent hallucinations, the man's got a very strange fascination with acne.

July 9, 2010 at 4:00 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany is the one who needs medication for cowardice.

July 9, 2010 at 8:39 PM

Blogger Nathan said...

Bryan, I think you raise an interesting point about Gordon. It's impossible to know, but that does fit the facts.

I don't know how much I trust the Royals hitting coaches. If Gordon can hit .400 in the minors with deficiencies in his swing, maybe they should let him keep them. But it could also be that this will actually make him a better hitter. Would love to hear from a good scout about this.

Also, it seems likely that trading Guillen, Podsednick, or Ankiel would improve the team. Trading Farnsworth would hurt it in 2010 (but we should still do it). Trading Callaspo or especially DeJesus would hurt the team for 2010 and 2011.

I'm of the opinion that a middle of the order with DeJesus-Butler-Gordon-Kila-Callaspo, with Moustakas arriving sometime during the year, could give us enough offense not to give up on 2011 in July 2010. So I'd personally be disappointed in a DeJesus trade that doesn't bring back a load of talent. Such a trade would be a white flag when we still have a fighting chance next season.

The decisions whether or not to trade DeJesus and, to a lesser extent, Callaspo, are the ones that might make Dayton Moore lose sleep. Trading Guillen, Pods and Farnsworth are obvious moves, assuming they're possible.

July 10, 2010 at 8:17 AM

Anonymous Gary Beebe said...

Good comment on the Mariners. I am stuck in Seattle watching that train wreck on a daily basis and actually started a blog about them. (I analyze corporate financials for a living, and your column inspried me). I recenly wrote about both how the Mariners were WAY over rated going into the season and a review of their bullpen problems.

I've been reading your blog for years and it is one of the most thoroughly thought out baseball columns I read.

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