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"How About A Nice Hawaiian Punch?"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany,

What I like about Kaaihue is that he's improved his body by doing weight training and cardiovascular work. If only someone at the major league level would try that....

August 13, 2008 at 12:54 AM

Blogger Kila-Ton said...

Label me a believer. I saw this guy's first game in Omaha and everything I was hoping for, by following his year with the Naturals, was realized. I guarantee he will have overtaken the starting first base job by mid-season next year.

August 13, 2008 at 2:24 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm really curious to hear what Goldstein said about Dickerson now.

August 13, 2008 at 3:12 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

In fact, I'd be curious to know if Mr. Goldstein could give us a special guest column with a few comments about all of our "prospects". More specifically, I'd like to know about the pitchers (especially Duffy) and some of the younger kids in the system.

Anyway, as for Kila... give us some Hawaiian Punch!!!

Go Royals!!! C-ya, AusSteveW

August 13, 2008 at 6:13 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent blog, Rany. Sometimes you just have to believe what you see. The Royals, under the Herk Robinson/Allard Baird administration, were great at finding reasons why what they saw was NOT reality. I'm hoping the Moore administration is the opposite.

August 13, 2008 at 7:54 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny you mention Calvin Pickering. I just saw him play last Saturday for the Schaumberg Flyers. He's still huge and batting just a shade over .200.

August 13, 2008 at 8:15 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the Royals have just completely given up on Shealy, then? Why both he and Kaaihue are not up here right now in a 1B/DH rotation with Butler is absolutely beyond me. Get rid of both Pena and Gload NOW and let's get some guys up here who might actually be part of the future of this franchise.

August 13, 2008 at 9:42 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

As usual, a thoughtful and well-written piece. Thank you, Rany.

August 13, 2008 at 9:51 AM

Blogger ASMR Review said...

If you go further back, Frank Ortenzio was another home run hitter in the minors who never really got a shot with the Royals because he was blocked by Mayberry. I write a bit about him here. He went on to become big in Japan.

Kila deserves a shot. It would be one thing if Ryan Howard were blocking him, but when you have one of the worst first basemen of the last 30 years playing, you need to see what the kid can do. Its way past time to call Shealy up, and in September when rosters expand give Kila a taste of the show.

August 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM

Blogger rebmoti said...

I guess you can put Shealy in that category of good minor leaguer (in the Rockies system, but still), didn't make much of what little chance he got in the majors, and disappeared. I guess he'll be in Japan soon.

August 13, 2008 at 11:07 AM

Blogger Old Man Duggan said...

I don't know that it's that the Royals have given up on Shealy so much as Kila Kaaihue has completely surpassed him. There's nothing Shealy could have done to counter Kila's move to the top of the organizational depth chart for first basemen in the minors.

August 13, 2008 at 11:22 AM

Blogger Brett said...

An Olivio/Kaaihue DH platoon the rest of the year looks pretty good to me. One mashes lefties, the other righties.

August 13, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can't give the nickname "The Hawaiian Punch" to Kila. Oakland A's catcher Kurt Suzuki already has that name.

Since the pronounciation of his first name is very close to how Steve Martin said "Killer" in the Pink Panther movie ("Zee keela iz..."), I propose we give him the nickname Killer.

I know Rany is not a big fan of name derivations for nicknames, but in this case (the way he kills the ball), it works.

August 13, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Over the last 4 games the royals 1b have combined to hit 2-16. These were 4 games against the division leaders. Im not crazy enough to think that the Royals can still win this, but last year we were in the middle of a series with MINN on August 8th we were 14 GB on our way to falling 24 back by seasons end. This year going into a series with MINN we were 11.5 back, and now stand 12.5 GB.

I understand the economics of keeping Kaaihue in Omaha until September. But what are the economics of having a team that shows promise the last TWO months of the season and generates real ticket sales for next year? If Kansas City brings him up in September, and he proceeds to hit the same here as he did in Omaha I'm going to be pissed.

August 13, 2008 at 1:25 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

One other point regarding Kaaihue's tenure in Omaha - I'm one of those who believes that an extended time in AAA is a good thing for prospects as they are coming up. Too often, management has rushed prospects through the system and gifted them with major league spots, only to watch them founder and underachieve their projections (see: Grienke, Zack; Gordon, Alex; Teahen, Mark; Buck, John). I don't think it's coincidence that, of all the minor leaguers brought up in the last 5 years, the only one able to make an immediate impact was the one held in AAA until his performance forced the door open (see: Aviles, Mike).

I'm totally fed up with seeing other teams bring their prospects up and have them play up to expectations while highly touted Royals prospects stink up the K. If keeping Kila in AAA through the end of the season, or heaven forbid, until midyear next year means that he starts whacking the ball around the K upon arrival - well, then, make sure he has a guidebook to all the lovely things to see in Omaha.

August 13, 2008 at 1:36 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Several people have mentioned platoon situations.

First, Olivo. I'm on the record in earlier posts that I wish Olivo could be our starter. People have pointed to the win-loss record differences between Buck and Olivo but correlation doesn't mean causation. I haven't taken the time to investigate when he started and think about what else was going on with the team but without doing so, we can't blame Olivo necessarily for the difference. For instance, had Aviles arrived, had DeJesus heated up? There are a lot of variables. Now, granted this question might be answered simply by discussing it with our pitching corps but I'm unable to do this, not the least of reasons that I live in Seattle! However, I don't think we intend to give him a legit shot to start and he will want out after this year to go find a starting gig. If we don't pick up his option, we get a compensatory pick or something as I understand it. So, I think he's gone.

However, someone mentioned a platoon of Shealy, Kila, and Butler at 1B/DH. I think this is very intriguing and I like it a lot. Why not start spring training competition early, say in 2 1/2 weeks from now amongst this trio? Let these guys come up here and push each other for those positions.

One thing that is a little worrisome about what Rany closed with is this statement: "The Royals let themselves be surprised by Aviles. Let’s hope they give Kaaihue the same opportunity." I see this as inaccurate. The Royals did NOT let themselves be surprised. Pena FORCED them to notice Aviles. Remember, he came up and was given 1, yes 1, game to "prove" himself and then benched. What was it, a couple more weeks, I think? Only because
Pena was so god awful and showed absolutely no motivation or effort to try to improve his hitting did Aviles get another shot. We can't afford to do things this way.

A little off of Rany's topic but another guy that plays into my statement right here is Teahen. How long are we going to give this guy?

Send Pena down and trade Teahen. Again, I like the triple platoon idea as soon as possible.

August 13, 2008 at 2:41 PM

Blogger ASMR Review said...

"I understand the economics of keeping Kaaihue in Omaha until September. But what are the economics of having a team that shows promise the last TWO months of the season and generates real ticket sales for next year? If Kansas City brings him up in September, and he proceeds to hit the same here as he did in Omaha I'm going to be pissed."

I'm sorry, but only loser franchises would consider ticket sales when dealing with a kid's development.

August 13, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Old player's skills? He's a first baseman. He's not supposed to be fast. And as for his glove, Ross Gload has a great glove and I'm willing to make the sacrifice for a power hitting first baseman. The Royals have had 3 of the worst fielding first basemen in recent memory: Willie Aikens, Steve Balboni, and Mike Sweeney. I'll take any one of them over Ross Gload.

Nice to see Frank "Moose" Ortenzio's name in print again, but don't forget Chris Hatcher. He hit 46 homers in the minors in 1998 and the Royals brought him up for a cup of coffee. He had a Dave Kingman swing - huge uppercut and I knew he wouldn't make it. He went on to hit over 200 minor league home runs.

August 13, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Blogger Nathan said...

Sweet, we're talking nicknames? I've got another name derivation for Kaaihue.

The News.

You know? Like, Kaaihue Lewis and the News?

Anyone?

...

Anyone?

August 13, 2008 at 7:11 PM

Blogger drewfuss said...

Watching the wed night game (ChiSox)... Rany, can you crunch some numbers for us on how often the royals swing at the first pitch compared to the rest of the league? I know we decry the lack of BB's and too many strikeouts, but it would be interesting to study how our guys dig themselves into that hole, rather than just the BB/K's that result.

August 13, 2008 at 7:37 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany, I can't believe we get this great anaylsis for free. Thanks dude!

August 13, 2008 at 7:50 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

As far as the Royals paying attention to stats, I don't think a stat sheet has been anywhere near the K in quite some time. Either that or it hasn't made it's way to the manager's office. If they do actually have one, I see no evidence that they look at anything but the old, outdated, and still popular stats such as avg.

The main thing about Kaaihue that makes him different is his patience at the plate. That is a concept that the Royals not only don't teach but try to drill it out of every prospect the minute they arrive at rookie ball. To be able to hit HRs and not strikeout is not a common ability.

I hope everyday that if Aviles does nothing more for the Royals, he has shown them that giving a prospect a chance when he performed well enough to deserve it in the minors. Our team is full of holes so there really is no reason not to do this. It is not as though we don't have the room on the roster.

They should bring up Kila in September and start him everyday either at first or DH. I was wondering for a while why he wasn't already here but I suppose I can understand the logic based on his record.

August 13, 2008 at 8:19 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Rany, I don't comment here much, but I just wanted to mention how much I enjoyed that post. A delightful piece of work.

August 13, 2008 at 9:36 PM

Blogger Antonio. said...

Buck had 501 Triple-A at bats and had an 875 OPS in the time before the trade.

The News is a pretty cool nickname, even though that was about the lamest connection ever! :)

Aviles only sat for a week after his one-game tryout.

HankScorpio (Globex): What are you hearing about Dan Duffy's prospects? Hard for Royals fans to not be really excited about his first 12 months. Thanks.

Kevin Goldstein: I've seen him pitch and talked to many scouts about him. I like him plenty. Plus command, clean smooth mechanics, and a lot of polish. That said, he's not LOADED with stuff or anything, and he's really just a 4 starter or so.

Brian (Kansas City): Thoughts on Danny Duffy? His numbers as a 19 year old LHP in low A are in Kershaw, Kazmir, Elbert territory....just sayin.

Kevin Goldstein: And that's all you are doing. I like Duffy plenty, but he's a breaking ball/command guy whose stuff is nowhere close to a Kershaw or Elbert. I saw him plus last week and he was 87-90 mph with very good location and a plus curve. I liked him quite a bit, but he's not elite.


BL (Bozeman, MT): Joseph Dickerson (outfielder, Wilmington): breakout or mirage?

Kevin Goldstein: Fourth outfielder type.

August 13, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Blogger Shelby said...

Agree 100% with those saying that this was a great post, and that it's fantastic that we get this stuff FOR FREE! I feel like I should at least donate money to the cause, but the dude's a dermatologist.


And I agree entirely with Isaac--patience at the plate is something we need, NEED from our youth.

August 13, 2008 at 11:30 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two straight shutouts.

Losers of 6 of our last 7, and would be 7 straight if it weren't for Adam Everett chucking a ball a foot too high.

Buck is 0 for his last 25. Average down to .226.

Teahen .252 Come on.
Guillen .256 Dropping fly balls. I truly dislike him.
Gordon .258 Can't hit a lefty to save his life, and that seems like all we face anymore.

I'm just so sick of it. Watching the Royals play right now does nothing but piss me off, so I have to turn the damn channel. Went to Friday's game and saw us score 1 run on 11 hits. Are you kidding me? I'm at a low right now, feeling like there's no hope. This latest downturn is just another one identical to all the other numerous slumps we've been through over the past 10-plus years. Same old thing. If the numbers above aren't enough to get Barnett fired within one week of this season's end, I don't know what the hell to think...this just blows.

And hell yes we get Kaaihue up here right now. Freaking Ross Gload? Give me a damn break. I'd like to see the analysis of what is comparitively worse for a team's offense, to have a SS that hits .160 (TPJ) or a 1B that has 2 HR and 30 RBI. Completely inexcusable at the major league level. The differential between Gload and every opposing 1B hasgot to be just ridiculous.

Stupid Royals...why do I love you so?

August 14, 2008 at 1:34 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sad part about your question of which is worse (no avg SS or no power 1B) is that we were running both out there everyday.

I prefer "Kila Monster" for Kaaihue. Hopefully he can live up to it.

August 14, 2008 at 10:51 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

I can understand your disappointment as you are like the rest of us.

Teahen has probably been my favorite player for the last few years and he is reaching a point where it is sort of sink of swim. The main reason I love the guy so much is his fundamentally sound play and I think I have seen him make more stupid/fundamental/non-hustle errors in the last month than I've seen him make the previous 2 years.

Buck seems to be establishing a pattern with this late season nosedive. He did the same thing last year as well. Maybe this is characteristic of catchers overall. I'm not sure, but getting a Pena type bat for one half of a season is awful.

Guillen has been a true disappointment. He did have his one good stretch of about 7 weeks or so but other than that he has been more or less worthless. I am crossing my fingers and hoping that it is due to his little injuries he's had all year. We have him for two more years so I don't want to see this through 2010.

Gordon is the one guy that doesn't bother me at all. This guy has more walks than strikeouts since the break. His patience at the plate has been exceptional and that is the first step towards becoming that hitter we have wanted I feel. The rest will find its way soon. Any Royals player who can tear themselves away from the "swing early and often" philosophy of the Royals is pretty impressive to me.

August 14, 2008 at 11:28 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good point on Gordon. Hopefully the walks are a sign of even better things to come.

August 14, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If only someone at the major league level would try that....

Billy Butler, you are being paged.

August 14, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello,
I hope that Rany or any of you guys on here can help me out. I'm trying to find Rany's humorous discussion about the use of the adjective "solid" in referring to ballplayers. I'll continue to skim but if anyone has a clue to timing or which post it was buried in, please let me know.

Thanks.

August 14, 2008 at 8:17 PM

Blogger pjbronco said...

The CBS Sportsline game center is showing Kaaihue on the Royals' bench tonight. I have checked the website, the Star, ESPN and MLB.com and find nothing about a call-up. Anybody know anything?

August 15, 2008 at 7:51 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany, I'd appreciate a post on this, if you see fit:

Friday night, Top 6th, Royals:

5 pitches, 5 swinging strikes, including a leadoff groundrule double (that went about 110 feet). FIVE FREAKING PITCHES!!!!!??????

August 15, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't really care about SO when it comes to evaluating Major Leaguers, because a K is usually about the same as any other out and Major League performance is evaluated as it is.

That being said, I think strikeouts on the minor league level are important to look at for the purposes of projecting how the player will do against higher competition. The fact that Kaaihue doesn't strike out and still draws walks AND hits for power is a great sign.

August 16, 2008 at 11:01 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ignoring Craig Brazell just because Brazell's in Japan and didn't walk???

August 19, 2008 at 3:55 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

As much as I hate the whole nickname deal, especially for a guy who hasn't even gotten to the bigs yet... It's gotta be The Big KaHooey doesn't it?

August 21, 2008 at 12:39 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dwayne Hosey actually did get a call-up in 1994. Unfortunately for him, it was 2 days before the strike and he didn't appear in a game before being sent back to Omaha once the strike started.

September 3, 2008 at 2:37 PM

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