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"Pinocchio Part 7A"

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Blogger Stephen Worth said...

The Disney drawings in Culhane's book were not vintage drawings. They were drawn on vintage paper, but they were done for the book.

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May 02, 2007 12:43 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think Jiminy in scenes 41-42 really looks like Kimball drew him. Kimball has a distinctive style and that isn't it.

As for Tom or Frank Oreb - another question is, what did he animate? Pinocchio? The flower?

I agree with you on the inconsistency of animator casting - it's like every scene of Honest John and Gideon is by a different animator. Culhane/Tate tends to give Honest John a shorter, thicker nose than most other animators but I'm not sure if that's even consistent either. It's also strange to see Jiminy animated by Kahl, Moore, and Cobean (and a rare example of Woolie's animation in the first half of the film)

May 02, 2007 12:58 PM

Blogger Didier Ghez said...

I just learned that Frank Oreb was Tom Oreb's older brother and assistant to Dick Huemer for a while (interview of Eric Larson by John Culhane).

August 02, 2010 9:56 AM

Blogger Liimlsan said...

As I understand it, this scene was heavy with live-action reference.

Culhane I don't believe much of his finished animation ended up in the film. Most of his surviving work seems to be on the Barroom scene. (He also drew all his illustrations in 'Talking Animals' specifically for that book; I know for a fact that that drawing from 'Swing, you Sinners' wasn't the one they used in the film. They have all the crudeness and blockiness of his later drawings.)

He does, however, draw the fox with simple shapes, marionette-like hands, and a short muzzle (he states that Ferguson had to fix an earlier model with a long muzzle, and if there's anything I learned, it's that junior animators who idolize their seniors will take one of the man's ideas a little too far.)

I'd credit it to Ward Kimball, seeing as how it has Milt Hands and Ward timing. I can't see Ward cautioning Milt on timing the scenes, but I can effortlessly imagine Milt, in his supervisatory pomposity, giving Ward layout drawings and tests. Now it makes sense.

March 13, 2012 11:56 PM

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