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"Which of These Men is Not Like the Others?"

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Blogger Tom said...

Every artist at one time or another tries to cross over into the business world. The problem is staying an artist while rendering unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. Some just become fulltime execs like Hanna & Barbera and Lou Scheimer, or they try to remain artists first and may fall prey to wolves.

Walt's secret is he had Roy Disney to do most of the heavy lifting with the Bank of America and other financiers. In my book I point out that the '41 Strike was one of the few times Walt's instincts failed him, and he became the emotional artist in the negotiations, and when the artists wanted a fellow peer to level with them, Walt gave them the cold businessman.

The two examples I can think of who were best able to swim with the sharks while staying artists were Chuck Jones and Charles Schulz. They never lost a sense of their own creativity, while never being caught with their head in the clouds.

September 14, 2008 1:21 PM

Blogger Mark Mayerson said...

I should point out that Chaplin also had his brother Syd help him negotiate contracts at the time when Chaplin's popularity was skyrocketing. Maybe the secret for anyone creative is to have a sibling who is business oriented. It seems to work for the Spiridellis brothers.

However, Chaplin still managed to resist the pull of moguldom, which seems to trap too many people who achieve success in the film business.

September 14, 2008 3:00 PM

Blogger J Caswell said...

I think the modern artist in this Chaplin vein is Woody Allen. He continues to create, but I'd argue, like later Chaplin, lost -is losing-audience as he continues. Maybe if Disney stuck to his creative muse, he'd have ended up in the same place as Chaplin and Allen but without having built a studio.

I read the book as a story of an entrepreneur's triumph rather than a creator's early promise but ultimate failure.

BTW, Woody's sister watches the money for him.

September 14, 2008 3:52 PM

Blogger Thad said...

I was going to suggest Woody Allen is in the Chaplin mold too, actually. Both also lost/have lost good portions of their audience as time went/goes on. (Though I personally think Monsieur Verdoux is one of the greatest movies ever made.)

September 14, 2008 4:44 PM

Blogger Larry Levine said...

Ironically, Woody Allen is NOT a fan of Chaplin's work.

September 15, 2008 3:08 PM

Blogger Thad said...

It shows. I'm a big fan, but there's no humanity in Woody Allen's work.

September 15, 2008 4:57 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Mark,

I enjoyed the article. After thinking about Barrier's excellent work and comparing it to what we see today, I wondered if Iger is more of the businessman to Lasseter's creative side?

Great comments from the readers, as well!

September 16, 2008 1:27 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Larry Levine, what's your source on the "Allen doesn't like Chaplin" train of thought? I feel I've heard the contrary, and a cursory Google seems to confirm that he was indeed an admirer.

September 17, 2008 8:27 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

As far as Lasseter's involvement, I think that his lost influence won't hurt the studio in the least. Pixar has been very good about hiring very good people, and while it's not guaranteed Pixar will always be great, all of the current creative talents involved have proven themselves worthy to take his throne. Pixar will indeed evolve, there's no doubt about it, perhaps even into something we hardly recognize (let's not forget Brad Bird's John Carter of Mars project), but I don't doubt Pixar will retain all its charm.

September 29, 2008 11:26 PM

Blogger Mark Mayerson said...

Brad Bird has nothing to do with John Carter of Mars. That's Andrew Stanton's project.

October 01, 2008 6:41 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a great blog, Mark. And great blogs are not always easy to find!

United Artists was more than a distribution company, as I'm sure you know - it was founded by Chaplin, Fairbanks, Pickford and Griffith so that artists could take much greater control over the production of their work. Chaplin had done a few films with Mabel Normand where he didn't have creative control, so he knew he didn't want to have anyone else as a boss.

Like others, I'd like to know where Larry's notion of Woody Allen's distaste for Chaplin comes from? I'd always thought that the closing shots of Manhattan were a tribute to the closing shots of City Lights, and there's a definite affinity between two comedians who really wanted to be respected for their serious works.


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October 03, 2008 7:17 PM

Blogger Larry Levine said...

"Larry Levine, what's your source on the "Allen doesn't like Chaplin" train of thought? I feel I've heard the contrary, and a cursory Google seems to confirm that he was indeed an admirer."

The Groucho Marx book "Hello, I Must Be Going", which is mostly transcribed conversations between Groucho & his famous friends.

When Groucho hailed Chaplin as his favorite comdian, Woody Allen states he never found Chaplin (or Laurel & Hardy) funny--with City Lights & Modern Times being the exceptions.

January 02, 2009 7:22 PM

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