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"Two Guys Named Joe"

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Blogger Steven Hartley said...

I so WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT to read it!! It looks so interesting, and I admire Joe Grant's work, including being the Story Director on the marvellous Fantasia, it looks SO great, but I don't know when I'll be getting it eventually!

Great post, Mark, John Canemaker is a real genius and I'm hoping sooner or later the next animation book I'm scheduled to buy soon is his book, 'Paper Dreams'. I got the Illusion of Life on my birthday a few days ago!

August 02, 2010 4:27 PM

Blogger Floyd Norman said...

I was fortunate enough to speak with both Joe's about what I loved and despised about the animation business. A guy much older than me- and a guy much younger. I'll never forget those conversations.

August 02, 2010 7:40 PM

Blogger Eric Noble said...

This sounds like a wonderful read. I can't wait to get my hands on it. I will be sure to mentally devour every page, as I've done with John Canemaker's other books. Great work.

August 02, 2010 8:00 PM

Blogger Thad said...

It is easier to present politics and foibles when everyone is safely dead though.

August 02, 2010 11:15 PM

Blogger Pete Emslie said...

Wow, Thad hit the nail on the head with that comment. Even honest constructive criticism of the work of those considered to be animation legends or "gods" seems to be frowned upon while they're still among the living.

August 03, 2010 5:07 PM

Blogger Mark Mayerson said...

I would point out that criticism of Joe Grant and his model department was included in Canemaker's Before the Animation Begins, published when Grant was still alive.

August 03, 2010 5:15 PM

Blogger Thad said...

I think John Canemaker's status as an artist has given him an advantage that Mike Barrier has never had. Animation people tend to be more open amongst their own 'kind', and don't seem to take much objection when it's one of their own reporting the agendas, egos, politicking, etcetera. The subject at hand, Joe Grant, is a perfect example. I haven't read Canemaker's book yet, but it's got to be more in-depth than what Barrier wrote about the man in Hollywood Cartoons, which infuriated people to no end. Both authors put out excellent work, but one gets all the breaks because he belongs to a special club. Not criticizing JC in anyway whatsoever, just an all too-familiar lame attitude.

August 03, 2010 9:31 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow! Here's another animation related book I'm adding to my wish list. Thanks for the heads up, Mark! If I ever have the money to buy it, I will voraciously eat up whatever great artwork might be in it, and the historical facts as well.

August 04, 2010 6:15 AM

Blogger Steve said...

My wife's gonna kill me. "You're buying MORE books about cartoons?"

Thanks for the tip on some informative books.

August 04, 2010 4:20 PM

Blogger Jenny Lerew said...

I just got the book today, and have been sneaking peeks and sharing it with other artists as much as possible while still at work. I plan to post about it myself, but it's going to be hard if not impossible now as you put what I already think about Canemaker's writing so perfectly. I really don't think anyone could write more honestly with as much grace as he does, and his status as an animation artist and filmmaker himself gives him a special perspective. Everything he does is worth reading and owning.

In other words, great review.

August 04, 2010 6:33 PM

Blogger Yeldarb86 said...

What I love about John Canemaker's books is that he actually writes cartoon history, instead of the critiques that are easily mistaken for history in most other books.

When I read about The Nine Old Men and Felix the Cat, I as a reader was allowed to make my own assessment about the people and the characters and films they created. I don't get that in say, Charles Solomon's "History of Animation"; the book decides everything for me, which like the other books decides which cartoons and artists get the most publicity.

Having bought this new book today, I really look forward to learning more about Joe Grant and his inspirational career with two separate generations.

August 05, 2010 12:37 AM

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