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"It's All In The Timing"

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Blogger Keith Lango said...

Great post. The fast is so silly, but it works. The boxing scene at real time (projected at 16fps, not 24) is laboriously slow. Certainly that choice was purposeful in order to accomplish the tight choreography, but even if they were to zip it up a bit it would still come off as sleepy compared to the undercranked version. A lot of modern animation (especially in films) comes off as 'leaden' and ponderous compared to the more energetic efforts from the past. To make up for that modern animation uses the cut more intensely to bring pace and energy to the film (no doubt an influence from the MTV generation). Modern animation motion is slower, but conversely the editing is frenetic -- a typical scene in an animated film runs 3.5 seconds, or 5 feet. Quite the inverse of the classic cartoons where often scenes would run for 20 or even 30 feet or more, but the actions were much more kinetic. Of the two I prefer the slower cutting/more kinetic motion. Slower cutting lets a character breathe a bit, even if they are moving with great zip.

February 20, 2009 10:09 PM

Blogger sunny kharbanda said...

Genius. Thanks for posting this, and thanks to Mr. Model for doing these studies.

I read somewhere that when acting out a scene you want to animate, you should speed it up while animating so it takes two-thirds the time it did in reality. It sounds like an arbitrary rule, but when you watch these clips, it's pretty close to what Chaplin and others were doing.

Of course, a thumb rule like that has to be applied carefully, and will have exceptions. These silent film makers were obviously thorough in their study of timing.

These clips also remind me of the other reason why the golden age animators studied these films. Everything is so clearly staged and set up, they've got you looking exactly where they want you to.

But the undercranking stuff is what really blew my mind. As you said in the title, "It's all in the timing".

February 20, 2009 11:33 PM

Blogger David said...

Gold.

I'm sending this link to all my students.

This is must see material.

Thank you for the links to Mr. Model's clips on YouTube.

February 21, 2009 12:34 AM

Blogger Jenny Lerew said...

Undercranking is indeed fascinating and these are great studies. It's used also in quite a few sound films, in fast action sequences-not just in comedies, but fairly often in scenes that require massive fast action--westerns, for example. Even some into the 1940s...although the director generally does his best to make sure it's not so obvious as to seem odd, you can still spot it--or "feel" it.

I love Chaplin, and have since seeing "The Vagabond" in an old print at the Silent Movie Theater in 1977, so I've earned this remark: I've never been able to stand this song scene in Modern Times. Charlie's pantomime is lovely and I like hearing his natural voice--but for God's sake, I can't stand how he has all the patrons laugh uproariously at the end of every verse! Nothing he's doing or (as it's suggested) singing is outrageous enough to warrant that reaction. And of course he has to have lovely Paulette beaming at his success as well...it's IMHO an egotistic mistake that undercuts the real laughs we in the movie audience might otherwise have, and reminds me of when MGM spoiled the Marxes with having extras laugh at Chico and Harpo in their scenes instead of recoil in disgust, as in the Paramount films. But that's OT.

And you can tell Mr. Mo-del I still prefer Kovacs. That's a joke, son. ; )

February 21, 2009 2:21 AM

Blogger Paul said...

that's a really illuminating history. thanks for the post!

February 22, 2009 6:48 PM

Blogger Steve Schnier said...

Hi Mark,
Very interesting post. My understanding is that Chaplin improvised City Lights before the cameras - that they would try and retry story ideas - that there was no actual script for the feature.
That being the case, Chaplin would have had ample opportunity to explore the effects of vari-speeding the camera for comedic effect.

February 23, 2009 7:35 AM

Blogger Ben Model said...

Hi -- Ben Model here!

Glad to see these studies have proved fascinating to animators. I've often thought that the current use of undercranking -- or at least of increasing the speed and pace to create comedy which wouldn't be present if done in real time -- is in Family Guy. A great deal of the humor is the sheer speed, and if the show's lines were delivered the way non-drawn humans speak, and there were regular pauses, the jokes might fall flat or not have as much punch.

These studies of mine came from something I remember seeing the step-printed version of A Dog's Life years and years ago, as well as the notion that regular film when run too fast looks too fast, but silent film is always run 35%-50% too fast and everything reads properly. Click here to see the study of "A Dog's Life", where you can see the gag that Chaplin created can only exist in this sped-up 'universe'.

Silent film should really be called silent-faster film.

Ben Model
silentfilmmusic.com

February 25, 2009 2:54 PM

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