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"Ever heard of of planet Eris?"

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Blogger amaragraps said...

Great post, Stefan!

While New Horizons is making its way to the Kuiper belt, another spacecraft is getting ready to fly to the Asteroid belt. These pictures show the last 2 months of Dawn being prepared for launch. It's almost ready to go now (launch window opens July 7). In these lastest pictures, you can see Dawn being unpacked, and then being hoisted way up the top of the tower to mate it with the Delta II launch rocket.

6:25 PM, June 28, 2007

Blogger Bee said...

Thanks for that nice post! I have to admit it's kind of funny to realize that what I've been told as kid (our solar system has nine planets Mein-Vater-Erklaert-Mir-Jeden-Sonntag-Unsere-Neun-Planeten) is wrong, and that the knowledge we will pass on to the next generation is more precise.

8:25 PM, June 28, 2007

Blogger Doug said...

Ceres [may already be?] and Sedna are also being considered for dwarf planet status.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060824_pluto_follow.html
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_planet

Planets are divided into rocky [4] and gas giants [4].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_giant

Maybe all planets are not equal?

10:55 PM, June 28, 2007

Anonymous paul valletta said...

Hi Stefan, interesting posting regarding our visual capacity for technical discovery. It really is amazing how technical knowledge will be advanced for near earth objects and such, how soon before we really have the tools to google-"other" Earths!..best paul.

12:03 AM, June 29, 2007

Blogger Rae Ann said...

Goddesses of Lawlessness are important catalysts for change. ;-)

10:58 AM, June 29, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Dear Amara,

thank you for the hint at the DAWN mission, I had not heard of it before! The flight trajectory is a beautiful outward winding spiral - but it takes a painfully long time only to reach Ceres...

That means, once New Horizons will have reached Pluto and Charon, all kinds of major bodies in the Solar System will have been visited by space probes? That's great :-)

Best, stefan

3:16 PM, June 30, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Dear Bee,


yes, that's amazing how those "known facts" are changing! I mean, that's maybe similar for dark matter or dark energy, which wasn't around in the astronomy books when I was a kid - but somehow, these small planets far out there are much more tangible.

Cheers, stefan

3:21 PM, June 30, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Hi doug,

Maybe all planets are not equal?

maybe they all have their own personalities, as diverse as the Greek gods and goddesses that gave them their names ;-)


Hi Paul,

... regarding our visual capacity for technical discovery.

Yes, the possibilities of today's telescopes are really amazing. I have some volumes of a TIME-LIFE series ("Voyage through the Universe") about astronomy from around 1990 - just predating the launch of the Hubble telescope and large telescopes such as Keck - most photos in these books look pretty much outdated and quite poor compared to what we expect today!

Best, stefan

3:37 PM, June 30, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Hi doug,

Ceres [may already be?] and Sedna are also being considered for dwarf planet status.

I just found this page about the IAU resolution concerning the definition of a planet from last August. There, they count among the new category of "dwarf planets": Ceres, Pluto, and "2003 UB313", that is, Eris. I am not sure about the status of Sedna.

Anyway, here is a news item from Science of two weeks ago, reporting about the Eris mass determination, with the nice title "Pluto's Bad Year Continues". It cites Frank Bertoldi, one of the radioastronomers of the University of Bonn in Germany who made the Eris size determination from the radio brightness, that he expects a few more dwarf planets to be found, which may be even larger than Eris.

So the books will continue to be rewritten ;-)

Best, stefan

4:57 PM, June 30, 2007

Blogger amaragraps said...

Dear Stefan, I will write up something this week (and tell you) about planet formation theories comparing/contrasting what is known about Ceres and Vesta in preparation for the Dawn launch because I know people are interested and there will be a lot of publicity (press thumbs for launch).

Unfortunately, there seems to be a mistake with the Dawn photos at the link I gave previously.. now the Phoenix mission photos are appearing, when it should be only Dawn. Phoenix is on the adjacent launch pad to Dawn's and they are somewhat competing for the same launch window, so it's understandable to have photos mixed up. But be aware that there are Phoenix photos now in that collection too.

9:57 AM, July 02, 2007

Blogger amaragraps said...

Dear Stefan,

Here you see pictures of the task of encapsulating the Dawn spacecraft to protect it during launch and ascent by giving it an aerodynamically smooth nose cone via a 'fairing'.

The 'go' for launch is pending a final review of the weather and availability of support (airplane and ship) for post-launch tracking. The decision will be made Thursday, as I understand. The launch window opens up on Saturday, for five days. If Dawn misses it, then the launch will be pushed back to September. (Partly because of competition with the launch window of the Mars Phoenix spacecraft, getting ready now on the adjacent launch pad.)

4:39 PM, July 03, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Dear Amara,

thank you for the update!

BTW, did you see, there is a report about Dawn in the New York Times: "Ceres, Now a Dwarf Planet, Is Scheduled for Exploration". They even write about the different compositions of Vesta and Ceres.

How does this relate to theories about planet formation?

Best, stefan

4:03 PM, July 05, 2007

Blogger amaragraps said...

"How does this relate to theories about planet formation?"

Dear Stefan: The answer to your question. :-)

6:31 AM, July 08, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Dear Stefan: The answer to your question. :-)

Ah, thank you ... that's an impressive and informative post about Dawn and planet formation! And you're also a blogger now, congratulation :-)

Best, stefan

5:45 PM, July 09, 2007

Blogger amaragraps said...

Dear Stefan, Thank you.. I am hoping to fill a niche for what I saw was a lack of good information on the Web for why some scientists think Vesta and Ceres are so interesting.

I don't want to consider myself a blogger though..my blogging days will be too irregular and infrequent for that

Here is a reference that you might like too. I think that it is an excellent overview of what we know today for the formation of the solar system.

Montmerle, Thierry; Augereau, Jean-Charles; Chaussidon, Marc; Gounelle, Mathieu; Marty, Bernard; Morbidelli, Alessandro (2006): "Solar System Formation and Early Evolution: the First 100 Million Years" Earth, Moon and Planets 37

12:06 PM, July 11, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Dear Amara,


thank you for the reference, that looks interesting!

By some funny coincidence, I came across that issue of Earth, Moon and Planets a few days ago - it features several interesting review articles about the Emergence of Life, all available for free.

Looking forward to read some interesting posts by you from time to time,

best, stefan

3:47 PM, July 11, 2007

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8:09 AM, February 14, 2009

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