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Anonymous Eva said...

My cellphone is my alarm clock, and it's close to my head all night, but I still manage to sleep through it when it goes off. I guess I need to strap it *to* my head to get brain activation.

2:12 PM, August 23, 2008

Anonymous rillian said...

What a bizarre film. Really cool and authentic soundtrack, but the visuals are like lolphyics.

INVISIBLE MAGNETIC CHARGE

2:41 PM, August 23, 2008

Blogger stefan said...

Hi Eva,

I am also currently using my cellphone as my alarm clock, since the actual one is still in one of the moving boxes, and I do not know in which one. I should find it tomorrow, as i hope I will get rid of the last bunch of boxes... But at least I do not keep the phone under the pillow.


Dear Bee, rillian,

yeah, the visuals in the magnetic movie look very impressive, but the explanations are a bit scarce. I wonder if they are based on any real magnetic fields measured in the lab, or just visualisations of the huge magnetic fields of the Sun and Earth, copied into the lab setting? And I didn't quite get what these things swirling around in the large jar were supposed to be - but it looks nice ;-)..

Cheers, Stefan

4:37 PM, August 23, 2008

Blogger Bee said...

Me too, I use my BlackBerry as an alarm clock. One can turn it off for that purpose though (it will turn on automatically for the alarm). Anyway, since I don't have a landline and most of my friends and family live in Europe, I often leave the cellphone on at night.

I don't know either exactly what that movie was supposed to show, but it visualizes nicely how many fields we walk through and live in that we can't normally see with our eyes.

Best,

B.

4:43 PM, August 23, 2008

Anonymous Christine said...

Interesting magnetic field movie, but I did not understand whether the field animations were produced from some realistic simulations based on actual fields computed in the labs or just fictitious ones. Could someone clarify this? Thanks.

6:58 PM, August 23, 2008

Blogger Bee said...

Hi Christine,

I think this is mostly an "artist's impression", the scientific value remains rather unclear to me. As far as I am concerned it doesn't make much sense that the field lines would be growing, neither did I understand the idea that they would 'end' somewhere (maybe I'm being dumb but I thought magnetic field lines don't just 'end'). Best,

B.

7:23 PM, August 23, 2008

Anonymous kay zum felde said...

Hi Bee,

like you implied there is often a problem with the 'news'. I think people very often trust more what they have red somewhere. Since people become aware of that I am a physicist, a lot of them ask me about theories, mainly Relativity (most of them don't know that there are actual two) or QM of course and I often sense some 'distance', when we start discussing. Big issue are actually also the LHC experiments. People trust very often what they've red somewhere, it seems because either it is written somewhere or because it fits in how they see the world. The latter seems on the first view not that bad, but often the 'way the world is' is not a very scientific view.

By the way, are you reporting from the Emergent Gravity conference ? Would be interesting.

Kay

10:31 PM, August 23, 2008

Anonymous rillian said...

Hi Stefan,

I don't think they lines we saw were real field data. The artists' statement talks about being inspired by observations and and simulations of the earth's ad sun's magnetic fields. But they don't move like field lines, or interact with the environment.

At the point where we first see the dots forming in the dessicator, the narration is talking about how the suns magnetic field lines have to emerge at the boundaries between convection cells or so, and one has north and south polarized spots that move around, repel and annihilate as vortexes do. So I think that was the inspiration there.

Christine, I agree it's not clear. At least some of of the sound track components are radio recordings of the ionosphere. And there are real scientists speaking. The rest is well done match-move animation, which conveys a great feeling. I think they did succeed in conveying an impression of what it was like for the artists visiting the lab and seeing one unfamiliar environment within another.

This is a great example of how what you know about what you're looking at affects what you see.

2:32 AM, August 24, 2008

Anonymous Christine said...

magnetic field lines don't just 'end'

Yes, neither start nor end (div B = 0). I guess they have omitted some segments of the lines in order to get some effects, like some parts inside materials or whatever.

8:25 AM, August 24, 2008

Anonymous Joshua Chamberlain(deceased) said...

Bee

Great quote from the late great Douglas Adams.

American presidential elections select for the following personality traits in presidential candidates:megalamania, a lust for power-I suppose this is the defintion of megalamania- and greed. These three traits describe a psychopath. These traits also describe Barack Obama and John McCain.

Will Apophus take the species out first or John McCain or Barack Obama?

1:39 PM, August 24, 2008

Anonymous Giotis said...

"Yes, neither start nor end"

Aha! Magnetic field is God. It has no beginning and no end.

4:31 PM, August 24, 2008

Blogger stefan said...

Hi rillian,

thanks for the explanations!

Concerning this other point, make visible the electromagnetic fields that are allways around us now, that would really be interesting. And I have a very specific reason why it's interesting for me right now:

I have just moved the sender of my WLAN out of the corner of the room by about one metre, and now the WLAN connection is much more stable. I wonder whether there has been some interference pattern before, or if this improvement is just by chance...

Cheers, Stefan

5:07 PM, August 24, 2008

Blogger bellamy said...

"Anyway, since I don't have a landline and most of my friends and family live in Europe, I often leave the cellphone on at night."

Um, what do those two factors have to do with your phone being left on? You mean you want it to be possible to be disturbed? I sure don't, I don't care who's calling, generally.


"People trust very often what they've red somewhere, it seems because either it is written somewhere or because it fits in how they see the world."

Certaintly is an issue for humans in general.

4:03 PM, August 25, 2008

Blogger dylan said...

Bee - you'll hopefully be as amused as me, the first link on the 'in this issue of mind' insert on the linked SciAm article regarding the cell phone sleep research is 'The Secrets of Storytelling: Why We Love a Good Yarn'

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story, as I always say!

2:02 AM, September 02, 2008

Blogger Bee said...

Hi Dylan,

I read that article, it was actually quite good. Best,

B.

9:51 AM, September 02, 2008

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