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"Phase Diagram of Water"

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Blogger stevelinton said...

Does anyone know
what is going on at high pressure? Two effects are notable:

1. The melting point drops significantly between about 100 and 1000 atmospheres and then rises sharply

2. The colour of the line changes several times. What does this signify?

11:21 AM, December 01, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Hi Steve,


the second question is the easy one: The different colours represent transitions to different kinds of ice, with different crystal structure. They are called hexagonal ice-one (Ih), ice-three (III), ice-five (V), ice-six (VI) and ice-seven (VII)...

You can find much more detail at Martin Chaplin's page on the phase diagram of water - there are also more detailed graphs for the different phases of ice, and details about their thermodynamic and crystal properties. To me, it seems intuitively clear that if you compress liquid water ever more, at one point you may force the molecules into a crystal structure, even if the thermal motion remains high.

However, I do not know if the endpoint of this line in the plot marks just the end of our current knowledge and available data, or if it is another kind of critical point.

Moreover, I have no explanation for the kink and the minimal temperature for liquid water at about 250 K and 200 MPa you are asking about.

Maybe someone else has an intuitive explanation? Is this something generic, or is it another anomaly of water, similar to the minimal density at 4°C?

Best, Stefan

11:47 AM, December 01, 2007

Blogger Arun said...

After water, probably the next most important one for humans is the phase diagram of iron + carbon.

e.g.,
http://www.msm.cam.ac.uk/phase-trans/images/FeC.gif

This is to encourage you to expound on that hopefully in terms of what is happening at an atomic level. :)

1:07 PM, December 01, 2007

Blogger Arun said...

http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PETROLGY/Ice%20Structure.HTM

may supplement links already provided (I haven't followed them all).

1:32 PM, December 01, 2007

Blogger QUASAR9 said...

Hi Stefan, an interesting and informative post

"The pressure applied by the weight of the skater reduces the melting temperature of ice, causing a thin film of liquid water, on which the blade of the skate glides nearly without friction, - or so goes the story.
This, however, is not the whole truth: the small, pressure-induced reduction of the melting temperature is not sufficient to produce this effect. While it's correct that the reduction of friction is caused by a slippery film of water on the surface of the ice, this film is created by complicated mechanisms whose details are still "under debate".

6:53 PM, December 01, 2007

Blogger QUASAR9 said...

And from the properties of water,
to water repellent properties

6:55 PM, December 01, 2007

Anonymous Klaus said...

Sorry Bee and Stefan for popping in with off topic:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fPxYdObyJ2A&feature=related

Nonetheless I think this is an important contribution recently added.

Best

Klaus

4:25 AM, December 02, 2007

Anonymous Klaus said...

Hi again,

Diesmal auf dem Punkt:

http://www.br-online.de/cgi-bin/ravi?v=alpha/centauri/v/&g2=1&f=021027.rm

Best Klaus

4:31 AM, December 02, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Dear Arun,


thank you for the link to the page on Ice Structure. I hadn't seen it before - they have there really nice illustrations of the crystallography of ice!

As for the phase diagram of Iron Carbide, true, steel is some important stuff ;-). What I am not sure about - even though the diagram looks pretty complicated, it may be easier to calculate than that of water? If you look at the x-axis, which is here not pressure, but the carbon content of the iron, it is quite small, so the iron remains metallic with impurities of carbon (solid solution, as they call it), and all kind of calculating techniques for pure metals, band structure etc, may still work.

But true, in general, as soon as you look at the phase diagrams of mixtures or alloys, all kinds of complications can set in, and if your material is magnetic, besides the different crystallographies, you will end up with different magnetic phases as well... the material scientist's paradise ;-)

Best, Stefan

8:29 AM, December 02, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Dear Klaus,

thank you for the link to the Harald Lesch show about water. I wonder, is there a similar show in English? I believe Alpha Centauri is quite unique!

Best, Stefan

8:37 AM, December 02, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Hi Quasar,

ah, superhydrophobic materials ... sounds dangerous ;-).. A few years ago, a big manufacturer of bathroom ceramics in my native Saarland experimented with water-repellent nano-coatings for their stuff, I don't know hwat has happened to that.

Best, Stefan

8:53 AM, December 02, 2007

Anonymous Thomas Larsson said...

One atom of sour stuff and two atoms of water-stuff. Deutsch ist doch eine schöne Sprache.

2:23 AM, December 03, 2007

Anonymous changcho said...

Thanks, very interesting - the phase diagram of water (a 'simple' liquid) still contains a few surprises and curious behavior. This issue of 'critical opalescence', showing the same aspect at all different scales sounds like a fractal phenomena to me.

7:50 PM, December 03, 2007

Blogger Manchester_87 said...

hi

I was wondering if someone can explain to me how is water phase diagram specifically the solid-liquid interphase related to the density of water? how can u relate the negative slope to the idea of water having low density at low temperature?

Thanks

9:41 PM, July 17, 2011

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