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"Towards an understanding of the Sun's Butterfly Diagram"

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Blogger Phillip Helbig said...

Even before I read the list of authors, I knew that Axel Brandenburg was on it. Axel also holds the prize for the greatest praise in an erratum by someone else.

4:17 AM, October 08, 2012

Blogger Theophanes Raptis said...

Interesting! But if all these models are correct why does recent Radar Doppler Velocimetry shows the convection currents to be 100 times slower?!
http://arxiv.org/abs/1206.3173

5:45 AM, October 08, 2012

Blogger Plato Hagel said...

If looked at from a different perspective this is just the Sun's attribution and characteristic displayed in Helioseismology.

Best,

6:31 AM, October 08, 2012

Blogger Plato Hagel said...

I think Amara would find this of great interest combined with her research from her comments in past posts....maybe?

Best,

6:46 AM, October 08, 2012

Blogger Phil Warnell said...

Hi Bee,

Thanks for the nice synopsis of the current extent of knowledge in relation to our sun and therein star dynamics more generally. I was brought to thinking about such a short time ago with reading some material about how it’s still not well understood as to how the photosphere of the sun can have a temperature of only 6000K, while the coronas area above (atmosphere) averages between 1,000,000 -2,000,000K, with having some regions reaching temperatures as high as 20,000,000K. It would be interesting to learn if any of the research you've presented here sheds some light upon this still outstanding problem.


Best,

Phil

3:10 PM, October 08, 2012

Blogger Bee said...

Hi Phil,

Yes, that's another one of these puzzles. I believe there's been some progress on that, it's also got something to do with the magnetic fields, but then I don't know the details. Maybe stuff that will make another blogpost some time. Best,

B.

4:14 AM, October 09, 2012

Blogger ghonada said...

@Raptis: You are absolutely right of course. The paper you point out is very interesting. Actually there is one point missing in the description in this blog about the simulations. In all such simulations the coriolis number, which is the ratio of angular velocity of the sun and the rms value of the fluctuations is taken to be about 10. Whereas all such estimates in the sun shows that to be about unity. The simulations does not even show a dynamo for coriolis number order unity. The paper you point out actually shows that the coriolis number of the sun may have been wrongly estimated so far, and it is close to 10 than one. If this result is indeed correct, then the simulations reported in this blog are closer to reality that we had thought. That is actually a great triumph for numerical simulations.

@ Phil : The clue to the puzzle mentioned by you have been speculated to be due to heating of the corona by magnetic reconnection (possibly first pointed out by Parker). The idea is the at the corona magnetic diffusivity is too low, but not zero. Then gives rise to very strong gradients in magnetic field which then dissipate by local events. These events, also called reconnections, generated very high local temperature. The temperature in the corona is thus very high but also very intermittent. As with so many problems in astrophysics, this is not "proven". This is rather a conjecture which at present is thought to be true.

4:29 AM, October 09, 2012

Blogger Zephir said...

IMO the motion of solar plasma is driven with Corriolis force. It's rotating around center of mass of solar system, affected mostly with position of Jupiter planet.

4:35 PM, October 10, 2012

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