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Blogger Neil' said...

Yes, apples are good for you, and the vinegar is even better (in moderation.) There is of course a certain famous apple incident, of which Wikipedia says in its article about Newton:

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Various trees are claimed to be "the" apple tree which Newton describes. The King's School, Grantham, claims that the tree was purchased by the school, uprooted and transported to the headmaster's garden some years later, the staff of the [now] National Trust-owned Woolsthorpe Manor dispute this, and claim that a tree present in their gardens is the one described by Newton. A descendant of the original tree can be seen growing outside the main gate of Trinity College, Cambridge, below the room Newton lived in when he studied there. The National Fruit Collection at Brogdale [29] can supply grafts from their tree (ref 1948-729), which appears identical to Flower of Kent, a coarse-fleshed cooking variety.

I heard once that Newton's apple tree had died, so I hope Woolsthorpe Manor is right. BTW Wikipedia points out that Newton's revelation the idea that gravity would extend on into space beyond the vicinity of the earth, not how things fall per se (already figured out by Galileo.) That led Newton to the 1/r^2 idea and to getting the correct period for the Moon.

4:54 PM, September 26, 2007

Blogger Bee said...

TWO apples a day

Lovely photos :-)

- B.

9:41 PM, September 26, 2007

Blogger Arun said...

I eat upto six. If I had those lovely trees, I might eat even more.

(I think if I'm in public and you see people walking away from me, they are likely to be doctors :) )

9:45 PM, September 26, 2007

Blogger Bee said...

What really annoys me though are those stupid stickers they put on the apples. Can't somebody use genetic engineering for a sensible purpose (who wants mice that glow in the dark?!) and grow an apple that has its number on the peel? ;-)

9:51 PM, September 26, 2007

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wie pflegte unsere Lehrerin zu sagen:
Ein Apfel vor dem Schlafengehn,
macht dass die Aerzte betteln gehn.

Reim dich, oder ich fress dich!

10:07 AM, September 27, 2007

Blogger Bee said...

Hab Sonnschein im Herzen,
Ein Bonbon im Mund,
Iss viel Schokolade,
Dann bleibst Du gesund.

That's what I've been told :-)

10:09 AM, September 27, 2007

Blogger Arun said...

Google gives the following translations:

As our teacher tended to say:
An apple before the Schlafengehn,
makes that the physicians beg gehn.

Reim you, or I fress you!

and

Have sunning light in the heart,
A drop in the mouth,
Eat much chocolate,
Then you remain healthy.

10:38 AM, September 27, 2007

Blogger Bee said...

Not bad :-)

As our teacher used to say:
An apple before you go to bed,
makes the physicians poor.

Rhyme, or I eat you! (Is a German saying that means it's an enforced bad rhyme)

The other one is roughly:

Have sunlight in your heart,
A candy in your mouth,
Eat plenty of chocolate,
Then you will remain healthy.

10:42 AM, September 27, 2007

Anonymous a quantum diaries survivor said...

Jum, I love apples! :)
T.

11:58 AM, September 27, 2007

Blogger amaragraps said...

I ate three Estonian apples today... Yum!

12:19 PM, September 27, 2007

Blogger ChickenBreeder said...

It's interesting that while the production of apples has doubled from 1980 to present, world population has only grown by 50%, from 4.4 bil in 1980 to 6.6 bil today. This means more apples per person are consumed today than it was in 1980.

This I believe is related to the obesity epidemic. Economic conditions have improved worldwode in the last 25 years. As a consequence, people work fewer hours per week, eat a lot more, spend a lot more free time in front of TV, and become incredibly overweight. As they become overweight they need to eat even more just to sustain themselves.

Those apples don't look as innocent as they are after all.

2:26 PM, September 27, 2007

Blogger QUASAR9 said...

Hi Stefan,
"refreshing autumn apple post"
in my nan's days they use to store apples even under the bed ...
and turned many not so much into apple juice but good old cider.

lol Neil we are still waiting for an apple to appear (and drop) outside Trinity College, Cambridge.

2:34 PM, September 27, 2007

Blogger Arun said...

I'm about to eat a

RICE
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apple. Three cheers for the label!
:)

3:03 PM, September 27, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Hi chickenbreader,


you raise a very interesting point! I was quite puzzled when I learned about the doubling of the world apple production over the last 25 years, and had a short discussion about that with Bee - we agreed that the world population had also increased since then, and that one should look at the per capita annual production - what is now the about 10 kg/(a · human). But we didn't check actual numbers...

So yes, indeed, the per capita production has increased roughly by a factor 4/3, form about 7.5 kg/(a · human) since 1980!

However, to make a connection to an increasing awareness about health/obesity issues, I guess the global apple production/consumption is not a good indicator. For example, I am not sure how much the consumption of, say, China has increased since. Such an increase may be caused by the general growth of the economy, with more and more people in cities who can afford fruits bought from supermarkets.

But wait - the FAO database gives numbers also for specific countries, and here is China: Wow, the Chinese apple production has exploded from 4.3 million tons to 24.0 million tons!

That's a big surprise! It means that the doubling of the production since 1980 is caused mainly by Chinese apples!

Best, Stefan

3:09 PM, September 27, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Hi Arun,

I eat upto six. If I had those lovely trees, I might eat even more.

Yeah, the real problem is that you need a cool place to keep them fresh. And while you would end up eating six+ apples per day in fall, I am not so sure what my digestion would say to that ;-)

For storing the apples, my mother has figured out that the best place is the garage, even better then the cellar. Some varieties can be safely kept there until next March. In my appartment, in contrast, these home-grown "organic" apples cannot be kept for longer than say two weeks - to my amazement, apples bought in the supermarket stay in shape for more than a month, which makes me a bit skeptical what kind of fruits those actually are.

By the way, the variety on the upper two photos is "Kardinal Bea", which is extremely tasty but cannot be stored, and Boskoop on the last one.


Best, Stefan

3:29 PM, September 27, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Dear all,


thank you for sharing your love of apples!
However, this rhyme doesn't quite fit ;-)

Hab Sonnschein im Herzen,
Ein Bonbon im Mund,
Iss viel Schokolade,
Dann bleibst Du gesund.


Did I know that before? Sounds good also!

Best, Stefan

3:48 PM, September 27, 2007

Anonymous Anonymous said...

An apple a day keeps the doctor away.- If you can hit him ;-)

best

Klaus

6:09 PM, September 27, 2007

Blogger Arun said...

Dear Stefan,

Its like 2 apples at each meal, helps me eat less of more calorie-rich stuff. :) I also chop them, sprinkle with salt, black pepper and something that in north India we call "black salt" and they become even more tasty.

E.g., see here: http://www.saltworks.us/shop/product.asp?idProduct=206

Much less expensive in an Indian grocery store of which there are plenty in New Jersey.

Other pics here:
http://www.soo.co.in/blacksalt.htm




I think the supermarket apples are stored in some extreme cold storage. Not sure how they avoid the apple becoming frostbitten. But sometimes I've touched extremely cold apples when they're restocking the shelves.

6:41 PM, September 27, 2007

Blogger stefan said...

Hi Arun,

I also chop them, sprinkle with salt, black pepper and something that in north India we call "black salt" and they become even more tasty.

sounds interesting.. I've never heard of such a preparation of apples for a meal, I should give it a try!

As for keeping apples fresh: cooling in supermarkets is for sure important, also to keep them nicely looking outside. At home, I usually store them just in the kitchen, and then you cannot keep the home-grwons very long.

That's why I suspect that some of the long-living supermarket varieties are either special breedings optimized for storage life - or maybe treated in some way. For example, if you kill all bacteria and fungi on the apple peel by irradiation, that will probably improve the preservation of the apple.

Cheers, Stefan

8:18 PM, September 27, 2007

Blogger Arun said...

Dear Stefan,

Don't know where you'll find black salt. This kind of sprinkle goes well with bananas too.

Googled a bit about apple storage - apparently they put the apples in a carbon dioxide atmosphere, among other things.

9:44 PM, September 27, 2007

Blogger Arun said...

Like this:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3741/is_n2_v43/ai_16682630

"Early settlers attempted to forestall this deterioration by storing their home-grown apples in cool basements or root cellars. This usually worked for a few months before apples became limp and flavorless.

Scientists have since learned a lot about how to store apples longer and make a better quality fruit available to consumers.

In the early 1950's, they worked out an effective strategy - called controlled atmosphere (CA) storage - that slows the fruit's natural respiration rate and quality decline. It makes fruit firmer, crisper, and more flavorful.

In CA storage, apples are kept for a specified time in cold rooms with lower oxygen and sometimes higher carbon dioxide (C[O.sub.2]) levels than regular cold storage. The apples are then sold or moved into conventional cold warehouses until they are needed at market - sometimes as late as the following summer.

Apples that don't get the CA treatment must be sold before the end of December."

9:52 PM, September 27, 2007

Blogger Rae Ann said...

Apples must be causing global warming. ;-) (esp. if they are using lots of co2 for storage)

7:02 PM, September 28, 2007

Blogger QUASAR9 said...

Surprise in the Organic Orchard

5:06 AM, September 29, 2007

Blogger Arun said...

Got some really nice apple cider vinegar, and sprinkle it on chopped apples and remember this article while eating them.

8:57 PM, November 06, 2007

Blogger Bee said...

:-) I recently thought about this post when I had apples that tasted like bananas. No kidding. Unfortunately, I can't stand bananas.

9:10 PM, November 06, 2007

Blogger Arun said...

Strange apples, those! Do you remember the name of the variety?

11:29 AM, November 07, 2007

Blogger Bee said...

I think it was just Fuji, or at least they looked very similar. I am very sure I didn't store them with bananas which might have caused that funny taste disorientation (since I never buy bananas). maybe a genetic experiment, the banapple? I would much more like to see a cross-over of mango with apple actually. Mangapple? Appgo? ;-)

11:38 AM, November 07, 2007

Blogger Arun said...

"Pink Lady" apples have a hint of mango.

12:14 PM, November 07, 2007

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