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Preach, Toure! And here's the transcript.
TOURÉ: This week I’m proud to say, Rush Limbaugh called me a racist.
RUSH CLIP: Touré on MSNBC, where the
motto is “resist we much.” That’s right, Touré. For 23 years I’ve been
hearing it. Maybe not from you, but people all over your side of the
aisle. For 23 years, I’m racist, and I’m not. Never have been. You guys
are.
Well, if that’s not a badge of honor, I don’t know what is. When I
heard that, I said, “mama, I made it!” But whatever small comical
victory that moment represents for me, it’s part of a loss for the
country. It shows you the American conversation about race is devolving,
because some people want to destroy that conversation.
The absurd idea that we are post-racial has emboldened many to reject
the legitimacy of talking about race. To them, discussing race in and
of itself is racist, because you’re playing the race card and injecting
race into the world, as if it’s not already there.
For some people, racism is a word to fling around in an attempt to
distort the meaning of the word and contort the necessary race
conversation into meaninglessness. And whenever the conversation is
pulled into the gutter of meaninglessness, we all lose.
Because we still have a significant racial problem in this country.
We still have much to work on. Racism nowadays is more subtle and
nuanced than ever, and that means un-nuanced thinkers like Rush can play
easily dumb. “What do you mean I’m racist? I don’t have slaves, I’m not in the klan! What do you mean you experienced racism? You don’t have segregated fountains, you have a black president. Why are you still complaining?”
Well, white privilege is something while people need do nothing to
access. White people who aren’t racist still accrue the benefits of
being white. This in a world with institutional racism and glass
ceilings and white men with felony convictions being more likely to get
jobs than black men with clean records — that makes it too much to
accept quietly.
While some things have changed so much has not changed. Smart people understand we’ve got to talk about all this. LOUIS CK CLIP: Oh, god, I love being
white. I really do. Seriously, if you’re not white, you’re missing out,
because this [bleep] is thoroughly good. But, let me be clear about it.
I’m not saying that white people are better, I’m saying that being white
is clearly better. Who could even argue?
Pointing out that race still matters isn’t racist any more than bad
weather is the fault of the weatherman. I’m not the problem. People who
want to destroy the still-necessary American race conversation are a big
problem. The refusal to feel white guilt is understandable, but the
almost violent use of the word racism to battle against actual instances
of racism and pointing out racism and trying to silence those who would
call out racism is, in fact, disgusting, and frightening, and that is racism.
DYLAN: And at the end of the day, even in a rant
like that, you obviously don’t expect Rush Limbaugh or anybody who has
that thought process, that you’re going to persuade them to think
differently?
TOURÉ: No, of course not.
DYLAN: At the end of the day, when you look at the
conversation we were just having with the Stanford professor that wrote
this book, “Rights Gone Wrong,” Richard Thompson Ford, how do we move
collectively toward an advocacy where we’re resolving the race
conversation in this country, but moving towards an advocacy of
equanimity, which is the intention of Civil Rights. The intention is,
you and I are equal, and me and him and her are equal, and that is our
aspiration. And I guess, quickly, interested in whether you think we’re
closer towards that — or moving towards it?
TOURÉ: Are we moving toward it? I don’t know. Is there a desire of certain people to not even have the conversation and not move forward that? Absolutely. But are we moving toward it? I don’t know.
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