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"Retrospective: UEFA Dream Soccer"

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Blogger JúlioSlayer Oliveira said...

My top 3 Dreamcast Soccer games:

01. Sega Worldwide Soccer 2001, Oops... Uefa Dream Soccer :)
02. J. League Spectacle Soccer (Japanese version of 90 Minutes Footbal. Similar situation of Surf Rocket Racers/Power Jet Racing 2001. The japanese game was released a few months later and because of it benefits from bug fixes and some general improvements. In this case mainly a slightly better frame rate, without those bizarre variations of speed/fps of 90 Minutes that ruin the gameplay. Still far from perfect, but it's way better than the problems of the European version. ).
03. Sega Worldwide Soccer 2000: Euro Edition

It's really a shame the Dreamcast hasn't hosted any AAA football game. Uefa Dream Soccer is was as close as the console got. If they didn't rush the release to catch the late 2000 holiday season and spend another 2 or 3 months fixing bugs/refining the gameplay, this could have been the biggest football game on the console. As it was released, it's still the best, even with several minor/medium issues.

Monday, December 20, 2021

Blogger Tom Charnock said...

Thanks for your comment Julio - I wasn't aware of the improved version of 90 Minutes / J League Spectacle Soccer. I'll certainly check that out prior to my inevitable retrospective on 90 Minutes. I'm really intrigued to know more about the indie football/soccer title that's been hinted at on social media, will defintiely be keeping an eye out for that one!

Monday, December 20, 2021

Blogger OriginalName said...

It was always surprising to me that Smilebit, who inherited Sega CS1 staff from Sega Worldwide Soccer '97 and '98, couldn't make a great football game for Dreamcast when they'd had so much success on Saturn.

According to SegaRetro, they lost a great deal of the original Sega CS1 staff to ex-Sega employees' Artoon and Land Ho! start-ups. I guess that explains it. Still, it seems like all you had to do was translate an existing winning formula to Dreamcast and you'd have had a hit game on your hands.

https://segaretro.org/Sega_CS1

Monday, December 20, 2021

Blogger OriginalName said...

To clarify, I read the article and I hear ya': UEFA Dream Soccer is a quality game, but it seems like they could and should have been able to come out of the gate with a triple-A Sega Worldwide Soccer '99/2K in the vein of the Saturn games.

Monday, December 20, 2021

Blogger Júnior Puma silva said...

The best football game from Dreamcast and J.League Football Show, which is an enhanced version of the 90 Minutes game,
UEFA Dream Soccer is the second best football

Monday, December 20, 2021

Blogger Deef said...

Thanks for this article, I fully agree with Tom, UEFA Dream soccer by far the best football game of the console but by the comments about the improvements brought for the jap release of 90min, I’ll definitely give it a second chance !!

Tuesday, December 21, 2021

Blogger JúlioSlayer Oliveira said...

Agree with most comments. Like Júnior said, J.League is a improved version of 90 minutes. The frame rate and a lot of textures were improved (player faces, for example) , but for this performance gain they eliminated some screen polygons, such as camera man and people on the side of the fields. For me it's very clear that it was a game produced by people who knew how to make a football game, but didn't have the time and budget to fix the bugs and write a better code, which would extract a better performance from the console. And the TEAM was very small too. Uefa Dream Soccer was created by a team of 56 people. 90 Minutes/J. League was a smaller team. From the looks of it, the game was created in cooperation with Smilebit, not for their principal team.

"Created In Cooperation With: Smilebit".

https://segaretro.org/90_Minutes:_Sega_Championship_Football

In the end it would be better to join forces from Smilebit/Sega of Japan + Sega of Europe and make just ONE AAA football/Soccer game/engine for Dreamcast than to split the forces and have 2 half-baked games that COULD be great with a bigger team behind (World Wide Soccer 2001/Uefa Dream Soccer and 90 Minutes /J.League Spectacle Soccer). We had one great Arcade port too (Virtua Striker 2 Ver. 2000.1), but that's not enough for sports aficionados who always want at least one great simulation of their favorite sport on the console.

Tuesday, December 21, 2021

Blogger Tom Charnock said...

Thanks all for your insightful comments. Certainly need to investigate J League further now.

Tuesday, December 21, 2021

Blogger Tom Charnock said...

Turns out the ‘new’ Dreamcast football game is basically a reskin of Euro Super League :(

Wednesday, December 29, 2021

Blogger SegaSen said...

I actually liked 90 Minutes, even though it is rough. Dream Soccer is fine, just not spectacular. Neither are the current FIFA games by the way.

Tuesday, January 11, 2022

Blogger Polarized2021 said...

In my opinion, none of them were good. OK I skipped European Super League, because it was known as some of the worst soccer games on PSX.

Take in consideration, that the PSX had ISS (a port of the N64 ISS), ISS Pro, This is Football and FIFA and Stars. This games are way better in terms of gameplay. And they got a lot mediocre games which were maybe as good as these (Actua Soccer 3, Libero Grande, Ronaldo V Football).

UEFA CL98 was a big disappointment at that time. I got crazy when I knew, that the music, the emblems, badges and all this stuff were in this game. But the gameplay isnt really fun.

I used to live 90 Minutes. It should be the ISS Pro and last hope for Dreamcast. The interface was well inspired and the graphics were not bad, but even after playing 40 games, it was a chunky experience. The game was broken.

Virtua Striker is not a real soccer game from that perspective. So sad, that this near camera angle ruined my experience.

And UEFA Striker is garbage. Some magazines gave this game a good rating, but I never knew why.

Come back to Dreamsoccer.. I liked the graphics, the modes, but the game has only content and the soul was lacking (so they put in a lot of stuff beside of doing anything right).

Its hard to understand, that some of these games really get through internal quality processes.

Wednesday, January 19, 2022

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