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"A Quick Look At The Dreamcast Twin Stick Controller"

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Blogger DCGX said...

Great write-up! I've always been interested in the Twin Stick, and every once in awhile I watch an eBay auction, but never bid because I thought Virtual-On was the only compatible game. Now, I really want to try the Twin Stick with Outtrigger and REZ. I guess I'm off to eBay.

Wednesday, January 25, 2017

Blogger Chris Daioglou said...

Quite interesting.
I was always wondering about which games could support this and if they responded well (i.e. 1st person shooters).
The reason is because I'm thinking of reverse-engineer one of these in order to make a "two-analog" version of the DreamConn..

Wednesday, January 25, 2017

Blogger Retro Raider said...

The reason sega never released the twin stick here is because they didn't even release VOOT here. They passed on it and alkalim picked it up instead they chose to throw money at space Chanel 5. Oh and the twin sticks are shit anyway VO 3 for the ps2 didn't even have an option to use both analog sticks on the controller b/c it plays better w/ the standard D.C. control scheme

Thursday, January 26, 2017

Blogger Tom Charnock said...

Guessing you didn't read the article before commenting? Slow clap

Thursday, January 26, 2017

Blogger gsilverfish said...

The reason it has a pause and a start button is because the start button in Virtual On Oratorio Tangram is used to both start the game and execute certain special commands. That's great in the arcade, but for a home game they needed another button to pause with.

By the way, although the sticks do seem robust and feel sturdier than the old Saturn sticks, they are actually a bit delicate and have some parts inside that are especially prone to breaking, making it so the stick no longer snaps back to center automatically. They can be replaced, but nearly everyone I know who played a lot of Dreamcast Virtual On eventually broke at least one of them. Definitely something to consider when buying them today.

Friday, January 27, 2017

Blogger 247 said...

i have one in perfect condition luckily and i can confirm that heavy metal geomatrix and quake 3 works really well with the twin stick...it would have been ace with propeller arena but unfortunately you can only steer with the analog and there is no way the change controls...

Wednesday, February 08, 2017

Blogger Unknown said...

Do you know if the twin sticks will work with the game Gundam Side Story 0079 released in the U.S?

Saturday, September 09, 2017

Blogger Tom Charnock said...

No it doesn't work with Gundam sadly

Sunday, September 10, 2017

Blogger Unknown said...

Damn well that sucks, that was the only reason I was intrestead in buying the game. Thanks for saving me a couple hundred bucks though.

Sunday, September 10, 2017

Blogger Tom Charnock said...

No worries. The main issue is that it doesn't have enough buttons for all the Gundam controls to be mapped to.

Monday, September 11, 2017

Blogger Playing Mantis said...

@Tom and @Chris :

The DC Twin Stick is probably using the digital directionals #2 properties from the controller features specification for the second stick. Twin Stick is probably the reason the second d-pad property exists.

So the twin stick is not a way to get a dual analog controller onto Dreamcast. If a controller were made with a second analog stick, only homebrew would be able to take advantage unless games could be hacked.

I'm pretty sure the Saturn Twin Stick was just a remapped controller though. I tried it with some other game and pushed the different directions and buttons so I could map them out. I think some of them were combinations.

I then tried to mimic those combos with a regular saturn pad in one of the Gundam Side Story games and/or Virtual-On. It was kind of difficult to pull off but I think it worked.

So people could make their own Saturn Twin Sticks from (preferably a third party controller) then use one of the Saturn converters with twin stick mode to trick the dreamcast.

Wednesday, September 20, 2017

Blogger Playing Mantis said...

So it's been a while since I touched the Saturn stuff. Realized the pad does have enough buttons without combos. I was just remembering how hard it was to try and push the right buttons for moving and firing while getting shot at.

So Saturn Twin sticks can be made off a pad with one to one button mapping.

Sunday, September 24, 2017

Blogger Roger Wilco said...

Could you get two Twin Sticks for 2 player Virtual On?

Tuesday, March 23, 2021

Blogger NightHydra said...

@Roger:
Yes, and it is the only natural feeling way to play. Buying the 2nd set is so your guest doesn't feel cheated

Monday, February 07, 2022

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