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OpenID joshu said...

I wrote up a longer response on my blog, but I wanted to thank you for this post and add a shorter version of what I wrote here:

Responding to discomfort that we do not understand in others by turning away from it strikes me as at once understandably human and terribly misguided (especially for practitioners of Buddhism). When talking about the first noble truth, the Saṃyutta Nikāya says that “this noble truth of suffering is to be fully understood”, and I can’t understand something by averting my gaze. If I regard suffering and malady as something that doesn’t happen to Buddhists, I think that I have confused human Buddhists with Bodhisattvas, and in so doing, I have limited my ability to perceive and address suffering. Indeed, if I already didn’t experience suffering, I wouldn’t really have much need for Buddhism, would I?

What’s more, if I see negativity as a contagion that I need to defend myself against, I think I display a lack of confidence in my own practice, like I’m treating my practice as fragile and needing protection from those around me. In so doing, it feels like I’m writing a big asterisk on “the cessation of suffering” and specifying some very strict conditions under which I can meaningfully achieve it.

Friday, January 22, 2016

OpenID joshu said...

I wrote up a longer response on my blog, but I wanted to thank you for this post and add a shorter version of what I wrote here:

Responding to discomfort that we do not understand in others by turning away from it strikes me as at once understandably human and terribly misguided (especially for practitioners of Buddhism). When talking about the first noble truth, the Saṃyutta Nikāya says that “this noble truth of suffering is to be fully understood”, and I can’t understand something by averting my gaze. If I regard suffering and malady as something that doesn’t happen to Buddhists, I think that I have confused human Buddhists with Bodhisattvas, and in so doing, I have limited my ability to perceive and address suffering. Indeed, if I already didn’t experience suffering, I wouldn’t really have much need for Buddhism, would I?

What’s more, if I see negativity as a contagion that I need to defend myself against, I think I display a lack of confidence in my own practice, like I’m treating my practice as fragile and needing protection from those around me. In so doing, it feels like I’m writing a big asterisk on “the cessation of suffering” and specifying some very strict conditions under which I can meaningfully achieve it.

Friday, January 22, 2016

Blogger Shakya said...

I thoroughly agree that "meditation" which consists of getting lost in rumination and only occasionally "coming to" is deeply problematic. My experiences of learning meditation in a Buddhist context also led me down a (slightly different) blind alley.
Fortunately, a lot of good work is being done in the secular mindfulness world - I'm particularly thinking of MBCT, which is very specifically designed to target rumination.

Saturday, January 23, 2016

Blogger Stephen Cysewski said...

I started "seriously" meditating when I was about 65. I am 70 now. I am thankful because I have had many "learning experiences' that have forced a vague inclination to wisdom. I also spent many years as a counselor for high school and college students. Independent of meditation or any theory simple empathy, "I have been there before" "You are not alone" "There is hope" and being able to describe the specific rather then get lost in generalities does make a difference. Humans have an innate ability to help each other if it is not obscured in theories. Empathy and sharing the human condition should be the basis of any compassionate communication. Just some random thoughts.

I am finding meditation valuable now in my specific stage of life. I ready fairly deeply and widely, I find Joseph Goldstein, and Insight Meditation, very useful.

Sunday, January 24, 2016

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