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OpenID jonckher said...

Good post. Given that many monastics relied on the population for sustenance and support, I guess it's not too surprising that over the years some form of evolutionary selection ensured that only those meanings / interpretations most likely to elicit the most support tended to survive (or thrive).

On a different level, I've been thinking about karma a lot more recently. Have you watched the film "Ju-On" (the Grudge) - the Japanese version anyway? In this particularly effective film, an act of evil contaminates and is passed on - striking innocents and guilty alike. There is a sense of inevitability within the film that to my mind captures the irrevocableness of karma.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a believer of the metaphysical side of things. I see karma as a great metaphor of the social/communal consequences of actions in the real-world. A very good friend of mine and her siblings were sexually molested when they were young and that single act really damaged their lives and hurt many of those close to them. When I first heard about it from her, I felt terrible (knowing that it could only be a pale shadow of how she felt) and to a degree that act even though many years in the past continues on now - like ripples in a pond.

On the other hand, I watched a thing on Australian Story the other night about the Cambodian Children's Fund and how the founder, a Hollywood producer or something, just left his career and decided he wanted to make a difference. That single act (and his continuing activities) in turn continues on, ripples on.

Anyway, I have been enjoying your blog and thought I should de-lurk.

Tuesday, June 12, 2012

Blogger Jayarava said...

Hey Jonckher

Good on you for delurking. I haven't seen the film you mention. I'm not sure if you were lurking when I wrote about karma a few months ago. I summed it up recently in an email to someone else:

"Karma is just an abstract overseer alpha monkey, whereas most religions have a figurative overseer alpha monkey. I see it as all to do with monkey groups getting beyond the Dunbar number and worrying about troop members not towing the line. Our limbic systems tell us that conforming is important for survival, so it has high salience."

I don't think karma is anything more than this. Which is not to say that surveillance and conformity to group norms are not important. Societies don't work unless most of the members follow the rules most of the time. Most societies use coercion as one of the ways to ensure conformity (though to some extent we outsource the job to abstract entities and forces). A great example is the Burmese Buddhists who are at this moment burning down the houses of their Muslim neighbours. It's difficult for these two groups to agree on what constitutes appropriate conformity - religious people are usually more strongly bonded to their own communities than to the broader community, which is partly why the insist on looking different (by wearing different clothes, having a different haircut, for instance).

In the West we're in the process of breaking all this down and replacing the abstractions with ID cards, and technology like CCTV and hand-held video cameras, and email interception. Note that the US government is now using sophisticated computer viruses to surveil and hamper their enemies. History shows that paranoia is endemic amongst the powerful and it doesn't take much to convince a government that it's own people are it's enemies.

Best Wishes
Jayarava

Tuesday, June 12, 2012

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