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Blogger JonJ said...

This interpretation does seem to fit with the whole context of the sutta: "Be sober and sensible, Kamalas; don't fall for those phony gurus who come into town with weird ideas they probably made up themselves, and only claim to have derived from some esoteric spiritual 'tradition.' "

On the other hand, I think we have to guard against simply turning Buddhist morality into a conformity with whatever norms our society is pushing on us -- that is, taking the "knowledgeable elders" we should listen to to be the local Rotarians or Republican city councilmen or Baptist ministers. The Zen person in me wants to insist that "enlightenment" still means becoming unattached to all conceptual frameworks and acting compassionately from the standpoint of the "original face before your parents were born." Admittedly, not at all an easy thing to do.

Sunday, April 10, 2011

Blogger Jayarava said...

Hi JonJ

I had to laugh reading your answer. You have an ideological framework in the form of a "Zen person in me" which characterises the problem and the solution in terms of (to me) incomprehensible jargon. This is precisely what you argue the text says you should not do. Oh the irony. You even use quotation marks to indicate that you are not speaking from experience. It's almost unbearable.

Anyway the pre-occupation of Western Buddhists with seeing the Kālāma Sutta as a criticism of "weird ideas" (like 'enlightenment' or 'your original face' for instance?) is the thing I was arguing against! My argument is that the text is about how we relate to people! And to a certain extent that does involve conforming to social norms. Probably most people need to conform more these days and individualism is quite out of hand! Anyone who has the knack of getting on with people (not me LOL!) can help us with this. But it's to a purpose, not an end in itself.

Sunday, April 10, 2011

Blogger Swanditch said...

The KS is possibly the most misrepresented Buddhist text in the West. I applaud your efforts to clarify its meaning. A few comments:

1. I have always read the section on the brahmavihāras as meditation instructions. I have myself learned and practiced metta in the way described - actively pervading each quarter in turn with lovingkindess - and had good results. It seems to me that in many suttas the Buddha, when teaching laypeople, rarely teaches concentration practices and instead teaches the brahmavihāras as a meditation suitable for laypeople. This makes sense as laypeople living in the knockabout lay world need to work on maintaining a positive attitude towards others. Furthermore it is in keeping with the emphasis on the social and interpersonal aspect of morality in the first section of the sutta.

2. It seems to me that the three sections of the sutta can be characterised as 1) sīla (instruction in morality), 2) samādhi (instruction in metta meditation for those who have practiced moral purification), and 3) a rough sort of paññā, namely a partial easing of the fear of death. As a simple primer on nonsectarian spiritual practice it strikes me as enormously useful.

3. Finally, I see in the section on sīla support for the idea that the Buddha taught that intention is action. He makes clear to the villagers that it is the underlying intentional mindstates that are at the root of harmful actions. Absent these intentions, he says, the harmful actions will not occur.

Thanks for writing.

Friday, December 16, 2011

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