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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a couple thoughts on this.
You brought up the problem of people being over weight in another post pointing out that people have choices. You broght up here that there is no shortage of food in the world some of us are just greedy.
But I do not think that the majority of over weight people become over weight because they are greedy gluttons. I think that many people get fat by eating 1% more calories than they need several days a week for year after year after year. 1% is not very much. You hardly notice it. That is why the % of over weight people goes up with age until you hit a point in which it drops because by that point most over weight people have died already.

But now on to a much more important topic. That is politics.
I like reading about Buddhism. Yet I also consider the writings of Thomas Paine as sacred. Therefore I think that abandoning political activism is not a wise choice. The costs of fighting unjust special interest groups is high. One could perhaps reduce the costs, at least in the short run, by not fighting them. Yet I have no doubt that if the Buddha were here today he would say that fighting them is the right thing to do. Do I meditate or medicate? No I just think about things. Do I speak Pali or Sanskirt or Chinese or Japanese? No. Do I ever go on a Buddhists retreat or even hang out with other Buddhists? No. Am I an expert enough to know that if the Buddha were here today that he would tell us to fight against unjust special intrests? Yes I am an expert enough to know that. Politics is nothing more than the forum for deciding what our collective human decisions will be. Suffering can not be eliminated by ignoring this forum. Even if it could be it shouldn't.
I have heard it said.
Buddha loves Paine.
Curt

Tuesday, June 08, 2010

Blogger Jayarava said...

Hi Curt

Thanks for your comments.

You may be right about the 1% but this is not the impression I get. A clash of opinions is worthless, so perhaps we need to do more research?

Regarding politics we disagree. I'd be interested for you to show me/us why you think the Buddha might have agreed with you. You say you are 'expert enough'. Although I support social activism - say amongst the Dalits in India - I don't think political activism has moved their cause along since Ambedkar died. No one from that community has ever had his kind of influence again. Political activism has simply divided the Dalit communities against each other. I see this as the essence of politics. So please say more, or better yet illustrate with an episode from the Buddha's life - after all he was faced with a great deal of social and political injustice in his time. How is he portrayed as responding to it by Buddhist literature?

I suppose the other thing is: what do you mean by 'fight'. If Buddhists agree on one thing it is that the Buddha eschewed violence. Non-violence underpinned all of his moral thinking. So 'fight' in what sense?

Regards
Jayarava

Wednesday, June 09, 2010

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello Jayarava,
There are a lot of things that I I would like to say in refence to your response to my post. But I am not sure what I Should say. When I make up my mind I will get back with you.
Peace and blessings be upon you,
Curt

Thursday, June 10, 2010

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