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Anonymous Ian said...

This is a wonderful post, thank you! You mention similarities between the "brahman" questions and the monastic debates held in Geluk monasteries, which brings to my mind Zen koan practice as well. I had no idea that these types of call-and-response challenges went back to the time of the Buddha and before. Very interesting...

Of course, come to a Zen teacher with a set list of answers like Buddha gives in the Aṅguttara Nikāya and you'll be sent back out pretty quick! But at its heart, these all seem to have something to do with the minds ability to fully grasp a problem and come up with an appropriate answer as quickly as possible.

Also, I like the idea of Sue Hamilton's that you mention, that Buddha was always talking about experience itself. I had similar thoughts upon first being introduced to the chain of dependent arising (Pratītyasamutpāda), that its best understood as something happening moment to moment, not lifetime to lifetime, but I haven't been able to explore that idea much further since then.

Are there any books by Sue Hamilton that you could recommend, to delve into this a bit deeper? Thanks!

Monday, January 04, 2010

Blogger Jayarava said...

Hi Ian,

Thanks for your enthusiastic response!

Sue Hamilton's most accessible book is "Early Buddhism: a New Approach". I should warn you that I don't find her writing style scintillating - it's academic and a bit laboured. But the ideas are very important so it's worth persevering. Also she responded warmly to my email so personally I think she is nice as well as deep.

My koan for some years has been: "what is it that arises in dependence on causes?" Still pondering this.

If you like the idea of pratītya-samutpāda in the moment then you might want to look into Ñānavira as well: http://www.nanavira.110mb.com/

Best Wishes
Jayarava

Monday, January 04, 2010

Blogger ian said...

Thanks, I'll check out that book (academic stylings are not the worst thing, if the content is good, but it seems as though the book itself is not cheap!) and will check Nanavira as well.

"what is it that arises in dependence on causes?"

That's a good one alright. Gets me thinking about wave forms, standing waves, lightwave spectrums, stuff like that.

I don't have a koan myself, not officially, although I suppose "whats the point of all this?" is probably the closest I have to an unofficial one.

Tuesday, January 05, 2010

Blogger Jayarava said...

I also frequently ask myself "what is the point of all of this?"

BTW I gave myself the koan - I don't practice Zen, but I do a lot of reflection on the Dharma.

Tuesday, January 05, 2010

Blogger Jamie G. said...

Man, you dig deep! Love it! Thank you for this... and all that you do.

Monday, January 11, 2010

Blogger Jayarava said...

Hi Jamie G.

My pleasure - it's nice to know it's appreciated :-)

Jayarava

Monday, January 11, 2010

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