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Blogger Jayarava said...

Just to add to this subject... I recently found a passage in the Śālistamba Sūtra which is relevant. The Śālistamba is a very old proto-Mahāyana text, dating to perhaps 350BC, but written in Sanskrit.

"Just as when there is fuel (upādāna) as a condition, fire burns, (and) if fuel is deficient, it does not burn; even so does the consciousness-seed (vijñānabījaṃ), born of karma-defilements (karmakleśajanitaṃ), cause the sprout of name-and-form to develop here and there in the entrances of arising through rebirth in a mother's womb... due to the [sufficiency] of causes and conditions. Thus is the conditional relation in subjective conditioned arising to be seen."

Reat, N. Ross. 1993. The Śālistamba Sūtra. Delhi : Motilal Banarsidass. p.66

This text probably post dates the Pāli by only a century or two, and still retains the image of fire with respect to pratītyasamutpāda and the nidāna chain. It see the word upādāna as having it's more concrete meaning still. This reinforces Professor Gombrich's point,

Sunday, June 15, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks. I've just been reading through Jurewicz, Gombrich and Schulman too, about this. Slowly beefing up chapters of my PhD! :P Had a chance to listen to Gombrich's lectures while in HK last year too.
Good stuff.
Nice blog!
Keep the Dharma wheel a rollin'!

Friday, May 08, 2009

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