Left wing scriptwriters hired by the BBC during the 1980s tried to inspire a 'Tardis revolution' by using Doctor Who as propaganda to undermine the then-PM.
Pastorious said: "British decency, then, in those days, revolted against such blatant lies, which had harsh repercussions on Jews everywhere. Now British decency is tested again, except that the blood libel comes not from Damascus, but from London."
Lady Tonge, the Liberal Democrat peer wants to set up an enquiry to disprove the allegations, which ridiculous as they may be will be believed by those that want to. You could say she is (1)pro Israeli on this (2) nothing whatsoever to do with decency and not representative of British opinion.
You won't consider that because you are determined to label the British as anti-semetic, in fact you appear to be very anti-British and take every opportunity to "have a go". Is that the reason you banned me from contributing to IBA?
As you label the Brits as anti-semetic because of some old liberal bat should I label the Americans as anti - British because of you?
Ray, I did not ban you because I don't want you to contribute here.
I took you off the contributor list because you were angry with me, and perhaps rightly so, and I have had too many contributors here (such as Pim's Ghost, Jonz, and a few others) who have chickened out on their writings, and erased them from the blog, and created other mischief in the archives.
So now, at the slightest hint that anyone is unhappy with IBA, I simply take them off the list of contributors and wait for them to ask to be put back on.
If you want to write on IBA, I would love to have you.
If you want to write for IBA and talk about what an idiot I am for holding the various opinions I hold, I would love to have you.
But, if a person is fucking up our archives, which are as much a testimony to the zeitgeist of our times, as they are a documentation of various news stories, then I don't want that person.
I can not constantly monitor four years of archives, so I have a trigger finger on removing people from the contributors list.
Pastorious: Fucking up your archives never, never came into my thinking, nor would it ever.
I was angry with you because you made a personal attack that was uncalled for, but hell this is blogging even if you wouldn't apologise. We are infidel bloggers and that is the top line. The bottom line is we sometimes stray into other areas that are irrelevant to that cause.
No, I don't suppport full blown capitalism - but neither communism. In this country we have seen our industry decimated by capitalism red in tooth and claw for the sake of a few extra bucks for the shareholders and to hell with the workers. The US too I guess.
Why should I support the rich when I am not one of them and never likely to be? There is more to society than that, and to see all our industries bought by foreigners is heartbreaking. Landrover and Jaguar - very successful companies - are owned by the Indians for fucks sake.
And now the shareholders have sold Cadbury's - an iconic British brand - to Kraft, the makers of plastic cheese and pretend chocolate. A week after the takeover they announced they would close a factory after promising they would keep it going. All so they can transfer production to the Polaks, from a factory set up by the Quakers 150 years ago.
I have a hard time apologizing when I think I am right.
Suffice it to say, the line between Communism and soft-Socialism/Capitalism-with-a-heart is a gradated line upon which reasonable men can disagree.
Here in America, our idea of Communism is different than yours.
It's a slippery slope we do not want to be involved in.
Look how bad it got in England back in the 70 and early 80's when you had a 90% tax category.
Is that not a kind of Communism?
Sure, you voted it out, but I would say you voted it out in the nick of time. Eventually you cross and line and you can't come back, without a bloody revolution. That's the way I see it.
"Ok, then I will put you back on as a contributor."
yes, thank you, I'm waiting.
Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:18:00 am
A Lib Dem and a blood libel A rumour of Israel 'harvesting' organs in Haiti, given credence by Jenny Tonge, belongs to a baleful tradition of antisemitic liesFrom the Guardian:Just when we thought we heard everything, there comes Lady Tonge, the Liberal Democrat peer, calling for Israel to set up an inquiry to disprove allegations that its medical teams in Haiti "harvested" organs of earthquake victims for use in transplants.It is easy to dismiss this as sheer nonsense. Indeed, my friend Yisrael Medad, with whom I usually disagree, had it right this time, when in his blog he wondered whether someone had made off with the baroness's brain. One thing for sure: nobody stole Tonge's tongue, and whether or not it is connected to any brain at all, it keeps erupting anti-Israeli abuses, which had already caused her party embarrassment in the past.Attacking Israel's policies is one thing; insinuating that the army of the Jewish state is stealing organs or – as the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet published last year, that the IDF was killing Arabs for their organs – is to repeat what antisemites were saying about the Jews in the darkest periods of history. A blood libel, in short.One hundred and seventy years ago, the Damascus blood libel shocked the world. On 5 February 1840, Father Thomas, the superior of the Capuchin house in Damascus, and his Muslim servant disappeared. The local Jews were immediately accused of murdering the two for the intention of using their blood for making Passover Matzot. Several Jews were arrested and tortured, and some of them died, not before producing "confessions".British Jews, quick to stand by their oppressed brothers and sisters in Damascus, commissioned the leading Jew in Britain, Sir Moses Montefiore, to travel to the east and rescue the poor victims. Lord Palmerston, the foreign secretary, gave him his fullest support, and Queen Victoria even lent him one of her boats for the first leg of his travel. He went to Sultan Abdul Mejid, who was only 17 but already wise enough to write in his firman (decree) that only "Ignorant people believe that the Jews are in the habit of making human sacrifices in order to use the blood in the [Passover] wafers", and ordered to leave the Jews alone.As Montefiore was preparing for his trip in 1840, Louis Loewe, his secretary, wrote that "on Friday, July 3rd, there was a crowded and enthusiastic meeting in the Egyptian Hall at the Mansion House, of bankers, merchants, and many influential and learned British Christians, for the purpose of expressing their sympathy with the Israelites, and their earnest wishes for the success of Sir Moses Montefiore".British decency, then, in those days, revolted against such blatant lies, which had harsh repercussions on Jews everywhere. Now British decency is tested again, except that the blood libel comes not from Damascus, but from London.
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Left wing scriptwriters hired by the BBC during the 1980s tried to inspire a 'Tardis revolution' by using Doctor Who as propaganda to undermine the then-PM.
Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:45:00 pm
100 out of 100 !!
I stole this stuff from the "Weasel" here:-
http://alexander-munch.blogspot.com/2010/02/what-took-you-so-long-bitch.html
Thank you ' Pasto ' & G-d bless you!
Alex.
Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:14:00 pm
Gracias, mi amigo.
Monday, February 15, 2010 2:43:00 am
Pastorious said: "British decency, then, in those days, revolted against such blatant lies, which had harsh repercussions on Jews everywhere. Now British decency is tested again, except that the blood libel comes not from Damascus, but from London."
Lady Tonge, the Liberal Democrat peer wants to set up an enquiry to disprove the allegations, which ridiculous as they may be will be believed by those that want to. You could say she is (1)pro Israeli on this (2) nothing whatsoever to do with decency and not representative of British opinion.
You won't consider that because you are determined to label the British as anti-semetic, in fact you appear to be very anti-British and take every opportunity to "have a go". Is that the reason you banned me from contributing to IBA?
As you label the Brits as anti-semetic because of some old liberal bat should I label the Americans as anti - British because of you?
Monday, February 15, 2010 1:11:00 pm
Ray,
I did not ban you because I don't want you to contribute here.
I took you off the contributor list because you were angry with me, and perhaps rightly so, and I have had too many contributors here (such as Pim's Ghost, Jonz, and a few others) who have chickened out on their writings, and erased them from the blog, and created other mischief in the archives.
So now, at the slightest hint that anyone is unhappy with IBA, I simply take them off the list of contributors and wait for them to ask to be put back on.
If you want to write on IBA, I would love to have you.
If you want to write for IBA and talk about what an idiot I am for holding the various opinions I hold, I would love to have you.
But, if a person is fucking up our archives, which are as much a testimony to the zeitgeist of our times, as they are a documentation of various news stories, then I don't want that person.
I can not constantly monitor four years of archives, so I have a trigger finger on removing people from the contributors list.
Monday, February 15, 2010 3:31:00 pm
Pastorious: Fucking up your archives never, never came into my thinking, nor would it ever.
I was angry with you because you made a personal attack that was uncalled for, but hell this is blogging even if you wouldn't apologise. We are infidel bloggers and that is the top line. The bottom line is we sometimes stray into other areas that are irrelevant to that cause.
No, I don't suppport full blown capitalism - but neither communism. In this country we have seen our industry decimated by capitalism red in tooth and claw for the sake of a few extra bucks for the shareholders and to hell with the workers. The US too I guess.
Why should I support the rich when I am not one of them and never likely to be? There is more to society than that, and to see all our industries bought by foreigners is heartbreaking. Landrover and Jaguar - very successful companies - are owned by the Indians for fucks sake.
And now the shareholders have sold Cadbury's - an iconic British brand - to Kraft, the makers of plastic cheese and pretend chocolate. A week after the takeover they announced they would close a factory after promising they would keep it going. All so they can transfer production to the Polaks, from a factory set up by the Quakers 150 years ago.
Fuck them!!
Monday, February 15, 2010 4:47:00 pm
Ok, then I will put you back on as a contributor.
:)
I have a hard time apologizing when I think I am right.
Suffice it to say, the line between Communism and soft-Socialism/Capitalism-with-a-heart is a gradated line upon which reasonable men can disagree.
Here in America, our idea of Communism is different than yours.
It's a slippery slope we do not want to be involved in.
Look how bad it got in England back in the 70 and early 80's when you had a 90% tax category.
Is that not a kind of Communism?
Sure, you voted it out, but I would say you voted it out in the nick of time. Eventually you cross and line and you can't come back, without a bloody revolution. That's the way I see it.
Monday, February 15, 2010 4:55:00 pm
"Ok, then I will put you back on as a contributor."
yes, thank you, I'm waiting.
Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:18:00 am