Any question of coersion enforced upon TR is resolved in Michael Coren’s interview of this guest from Quilliam. Listen as Quilliam’s rep, Jonathan Russell struggles in his response to Michael Coren & unwittingly reveals a bit of the backstory in TR’s defection from the EDL starting at the 12:30 mark:
” But IF WE HAD NOT TAKEN this opportunity AND we had ALLOWED these two men TO CONTINUE their leadership of the EDL and then in six months time or in twelve months time the EDL had grown to a much stronger position that had made OUR JOB harder or had even created violence then I think we would not be able to look at ourselves honestly and in ease at what we had done everything we could to challenge extremism.”
This perfectly groomed statist [for he is as well groomed mentally/psychically as the young non Muslim girls have been groomed for prostitution by the Islamic community of Britain] clown doesn't/refuses recognize the violence inherent in Islamic scripture or it's connection to ALL the violence coming from the Islamic community in Britain. Just as the Muslim community insists it will mold British society, so does this cartoonish character in a nice suit. His concern was about 'permitting' the EDL's further 'success' would make his 'job' more difficult. Quilliam is a state funded org. and he is apparently sufficiently well paid to bring the British to heel to Islam's demands.
The RT article puts across the idea that the EDL is heavily funded by wealthy people.
What a fucking joke.
I know a lot of lefties who similarly think the Tea Party is funded by the Kock Brothers. And yet, our own co-blogger here, John Press, was the leader of the Brooklyn Tea Party which was one of the most recognized chapters of the organizations in the whole country, and I know John well enough to know that he LIVES IN VIRTUAL POVERTY AS THE DIRECT RESULT OF HIS POLITICAL OPINIONS.
Will, I'm guessing there may be some other idea you might have grasped onto in that article.
I am focused on the notion that the EDL is heavily financed. I can almost guarantee you that that is not true.
That is very important to me.
Few of these right-wing organizations are well-financed.
I will not go into speculation on who I believe is well-financed. Because I don't know enough about it. But, it's not the Tea Party and it's not the EDL.
What MIGHT be coming down the road soon as a direct result of Robinson's departure from and repudiation of the EDL...
Any counter-jihadists (aka Islamophobes) who don't partner with "moderate Muslim groups" (Would CAIR be deemed one?) will be labeled as haters and far right extremists? Not partnering with "moderate Muslim groups" will result in labeling counter-jihadists as potential Breiviks.
I could be wrong with the above prediction, but it's something that I've been mulling over the past few days.
AOW , i think you're right what i see is an org that is Anti Israeli has managed to bring Robinson on board, people like Spenser and Pamela have now an ex - ally in front of them, and in the end the ultimate 'target' stays Israel.
Remember the British Gov prevented them from speaking in Brittain.
I wonder how much of a role the NSA or their British counter part have played in this change of heart.
Behead the hydra and the limbs will die is their view
Robinson didn’t quit the EDL in the way most politicians leave parties or organizations, citing personal reasons, overwork, or the desire to pursue other worthy initiatives. He could easily have done so. As someone who has become the public face of the EDL — unable to walk down the street without verbal harassment, arrested on numerous occasions on thin grounds, constantly defamed by Britain’s politically correct media, and the victim of death threats and threats against his family — he could legitimately have cited exhaustion and the need to rebuild his life.
Instead, though, he has made a devastating attack on the EDL, claiming that it has become “increasingly influenced by extreme elements that did not represent what he stood for.” His words confirm the charges of white-power fanaticism that critics have leveled at the EDL for years, and which Robinson always claimed to be vigorously combatting. His departure effectively cripples the organization, leaving thousands of non-fascist Britons who worked at his side without a viable base of anti-jihad activism, and with nothing more substantial for the future than the vague nostrum that securing Britain from extremists will require working with Muslims and that “from day one we’ve wanted to embrace everyone; all colours and creeds.”
Even more disturbing, perhaps, than Robinson’s denunciation of his former organization is his new alliance with the much-lauded Quilliam Foundation, a think tank that aims to “challenge extremism,” according to its sleek website, by targeting those social factors that lead to “radicalization.” In other words, this is an anti-extremist group that locates the source of extremism mainly in British society rather than in Islamic ideology. Quilliam, whose political affiliation is suggested by itsfriendly relations with the far-left anti-British Hope Not Hate group, is precisely the kind of organization — with its concern for “grievances felt every day by young Muslims” and its accommodationist stance on issues such as terrorist profiling that may “alienate and stigmatize” — about which the former Robinson would have been rightly suspicious. It is worth noting that Quilliam was named for William Abdullah Quilliam, a nineteenth-century British convert to Islam who dreamed, according to research by Andrew Bostom, of a pan-Islamic caliphate.
Oh, That Moral EquivalenceChair and Co-founder Maajid Nawaz’s statement of support for Robinson was notably unctuous and self-satisfied: “Tommy wants a chance to prove he is not happy with the neo-Nazi association. I would not be a good human being if I did not allow him to demonstrate that.” Yes, this former jihadist has a good deal of self-love. Nawaz’s comments about the “symbiotic relationship between far-right extremism and Islamism” and Robinson’s mea-culpa, “I thought the EDL was part of the solution but now it is part of the problem,” seemed perfectly scripted to drive home the “equivalence” mantra dear to the hearts of the liberal intelligentsia: far-right extremism (of which the EDL is supposedly a symptom) and Muslim extremism are equally dangerous elements in contemporary British life; far-right extremism is in fact the cause of Muslim extremism.
GO READ THE WHOLE THING.
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Close this window Jump to comment formAny question of coersion enforced upon TR is resolved in Michael Coren’s interview of this guest from Quilliam.
Listen as Quilliam’s rep, Jonathan Russell struggles in his response to Michael Coren & unwittingly reveals a bit of the backstory in TR’s defection from the EDL starting at the 12:30 mark:
” But IF WE HAD NOT TAKEN this opportunity AND we had ALLOWED these two men TO CONTINUE their leadership of the EDL and then in six months time or in twelve months time the EDL had grown to a much stronger position that had made OUR JOB harder or had even created violence then I think we would not be able to look at ourselves honestly and in ease at what we had done everything we could to challenge extremism.”
This perfectly groomed statist [for he is as well groomed mentally/psychically as the young non Muslim girls have been groomed for prostitution by the Islamic community of Britain] clown doesn't/refuses recognize the violence inherent in Islamic scripture or it's connection to ALL the violence coming from the Islamic community in Britain. Just as the Muslim community insists it will mold British society, so does this cartoonish character in a nice suit. His concern was about 'permitting' the EDL's further 'success' would make his 'job' more difficult. Quilliam is a state funded org. and he is apparently sufficiently well paid to bring the British to heel to Islam's demands.
SICK. SICK. SICK.
Sunday, October 13, 2013 3:35:00 pm
From RT : http://rt.com/op-edge/uk-neo-nazi-league-041/
Sunday, October 13, 2013 3:42:00 pm
The RT article puts across the idea that the EDL is heavily funded by wealthy people.
What a fucking joke.
I know a lot of lefties who similarly think the Tea Party is funded by the Kock Brothers. And yet, our own co-blogger here, John Press, was the leader of the Brooklyn Tea Party which was one of the most recognized chapters of the organizations in the whole country, and I know John well enough to know that he LIVES IN VIRTUAL POVERTY AS THE DIRECT RESULT OF HIS POLITICAL OPINIONS.
Tommy Robinson does not have money.
This article is a fucking lie.
Sunday, October 13, 2013 3:56:00 pm
Will, I'm guessing there may be some other idea you might have grasped onto in that article.
I am focused on the notion that the EDL is heavily financed. I can almost guarantee you that that is not true.
That is very important to me.
Few of these right-wing organizations are well-financed.
I will not go into speculation on who I believe is well-financed. Because I don't know enough about it. But, it's not the Tea Party and it's not the EDL.
Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:00:00 pm
I read somewhere that all of Robinson's assets were frozen by the British government some time back. Is that true?
Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:09:00 pm
What MIGHT be coming down the road soon as a direct result of Robinson's departure from and repudiation of the EDL...
Any counter-jihadists (aka Islamophobes) who don't partner with "moderate Muslim groups" (Would CAIR be deemed one?) will be labeled as haters and far right extremists? Not partnering with "moderate Muslim groups" will result in labeling counter-jihadists as potential Breiviks.
I could be wrong with the above prediction, but it's something that I've been mulling over the past few days.
Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:18:00 pm
AOW , i think you're right what i see is an org that is Anti Israeli has managed to bring Robinson on board, people like Spenser and Pamela have now an ex - ally in front of them, and in the end the ultimate 'target' stays Israel.
Remember the British Gov prevented them from speaking in Brittain.
I wonder how much of a role the NSA or their British counter part have played in this change of heart.
Behead the hydra and the limbs will die is their view
Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:10:00 pm
AOW, you should post your prediction.
Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:41:00 pm
Pasto,
Okay. I'll queue it up.
Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:09:00 pm