As I suggested on another blog about this story, since the police have decided that snapping photos and driving by are not harassment, then you grab a camera and start taking photos of the men and women who attend that mosque, especially the mullahs and leaders. You also take down license plate numbers and have it on file in a place separate from your house should anything untoward occur. In addition, you send all photos not to the local LEO's but to the FBI office in Atlanta as well as NSA, ICE and any other alphabet bureau that deals with foreign nationals. My own Dallas suburb now has four mosques. Some are very open and work with the neighborhood, working with other faith based orgnizations, but one (which is scarily near our water treatment plant) refuses outsiders and has invited controversial speakers. It may be that an outreach from a community religious group would help, but if they are Shia, they will not go along. You may also want to enlist any people who are Middle Eastern Christians or Indians who are Hindu in this endeavor because some of the more Wahabist groups are very aggressive personally and legally. Be careful and keep your powder dry.
It seems those Muslims had better heed Angel Alonzo's words.
Sunday, June 27, 2010 10:11:00 pm
revereridesagain said...
I've been making suggestions similar to Ellen K's on ATLAS and other sites that have this story. This is an ideal situation for documentation of harassment. If you check the google map for Hood Road in Lilburn, it is part of a section of dead-ends extending off the Lawrenceville Highway. In other words, once you drive in you can't just drive through, you have to turn around somewhere and go back out the way you came in. And as Ellen points out, hey, the police have said that snapping photos is no problem. If there are a few retired or other people in the area who could put in a night or two patroling with a camera that might yield some interesting results. This is probably not the first and certainly not the last situation of its kind to develop, and it has good possibilities as a learning experience. The residents can learn to fight back, the ostriches can learn something about what's going on these days, and the muzzies can learn that intimidation doesn't always work as well as they thought it would.
Pastorius, I went to the mosque construction protest in Brooklyn today. Here is the photo report.
Monday, June 28, 2010 12:18:00 am
revereridesagain said...
It's great to see the protests blooming all over the place! For every 200-300 people who come out to protest, hundreds and thousands more get a wake-up call and finally start paying attention.
Hey, We got Castle laws in Georgia. If you step even 1 foot on my property in a threatening manner, you're dead. Not only will your relatives not be able to win a lawsuit, they're legally barred from suing me in the first place. Prosecutors are also legally barred from taking any action against me.
I have a feeling Georgia police will enforce, and may believe the complaints (HOW MANY?) but without the proof and the ability to make arrest the statements that they cannot substantiate any claim is certainly correct.
However the article stating that that the residents are locked and loaded either will deter or not. If not, I have a feeling there will be proof forthcoming of one kind or another
Monday, June 28, 2010 11:30:00 am
Peaceful Georgia neighborhood requires around the clock police patrols after mosque expansion denied Think about this. THERE ARE NO "MODERATE MUSLIMS" TO STAND AGAINST THIS HARRASSMENT?Shocking, huh?From the Atlanta Journal Constitution, via Atlas Shrugs:Once unnoticed, the reality is impossible to avoid. The country is under siege. And as long as you submit and subdue yourselves to Islam and stay quiet, you won't be harassed, but fight Islamic supremacism and ........it's war. Peaceful Georgia neighborhood requires around the clock police patrols after mosque expansion denied An update on the Lilburn mosque - a replica of a shrine to a Muslim holy warrior in Iraq (where more than 4,000 U.S. soldiers have been killed). When expansion plans were denied, the harassment of infidels began, the legal jihad kicked in, and apparently the Islamic intimidation has continued. ROPMA.
Lilburn’s Hood Road carries new Gwinnett into old Gwinnett. The mile of asphalt begins with a mosque at U.S. 29 and turns into a byway of houses, trees and gardens.But now, when the sun goes down, tension grows in this tidy, middle-class neighborhood.Some residents opposed to a mosque expansion on Hood Road say for the past seven months, they’ve been the frequent targets of harassment, mostly by those they describe as “Middle Eastern men”. But a founder of the mosque says the claims are unfounded and the city’s mayor, who lives on Hood Road, hasn’t witnessed anything unusual.Nonetheless, residents have reported vehicles traveling the road at night with occupants yelling, making obscene gestures, snapping photos, even confronting two women in their driveway. Since November, when city leaders ruled against a local Muslim congregation’s plans to expand, the Lilburn Police Department has received 21 calls of suspicious activity along Hood Road.Lilburn police officials say they have investigated every claim and patrolled Hood Road around the clock for two months starting in April, when reports started to escalate.Still, residents say, the harassment is real. Some have installed security camera systems. Others are carrying guns.“A lot of people are locked and loaded because they don’t know what’s going to happen,” resident Angel Alonso, 46, said. “We have a feeling somebody is going to get hurt.”Residents say the harassment started Nov. 18, the same day the Lilburn City Council rejected the congregation’s proposal for a 20,000-square-foot mosque, cemetery and gym at U.S. 29 and Hood Road. The council’s decision has since sparked a federal religious discrimination lawsuit against the city.n November, more than 400 residents packed the Gwinnett County courthouse to protest the rezoning. They argued it would pose traffic and parking problems and run afoul of the city’s land-use plan.After the meeting in Lawrenceville, resident Janie Hood said she was followed and boxed in on U.S. 29 by a van and sport utility vehicle full of “Middle Eastern” males, according to a police report. The vehicles were pulled over. Hood didn’t pursue the matter further, the report said.But Hood said she didn’t drop it. Since March, she said she has spoken three times to the Gwinnett County District Attorney’s Office, which is investigating.Now the 56-year-old Hood, whose father and grandfather built Hood Road, won’t sleep at her house at night, not since an attempted break-in in late December, she said. And on April 23, Hood said five vehicles pulled in front of her property. Two to three men exited and approached, according to a police report. Hood’s daughter, Christi Nichols, who feared for her safety, grabbed a firearm and told the men to leave, the report said.“It’s getting worse and worse,” Hood said. “All we get from the Police Department is, ‘Stay in your house.’ We will stay in our house, but we should haven’t to.”
UPDATED - Ellen K has some good suggestions:
As I suggested on another blog about this story, since the police have decided that snapping photos and driving by are not harassment, then you grab a camera and start taking photos of the men and women who attend that mosque, especially the mullahs and leaders. You also take down license plate numbers and have it on file in a place separate from your house should anything untoward occur. In addition, you send all photos not to the local LEO's but to the FBI office in Atlanta as well as NSA, ICE and any other alphabet bureau that deals with foreign nationals. You may also want to enlist any people who are Middle Eastern Christians or Indians who are Hindu in this endeavor because some of the more Wahabist groups are very aggressive personally and legally.
Revere Rides Again notes:
If you check the google map for Hood Road in Lilburn, it is part of a section of dead-ends extending off the Lawrenceville Highway. In other words, once you drive in you can't just drive through, you have to turn around somewhere and go back out the way you came in.
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Close this window Jump to comment formAs I suggested on another blog about this story, since the police have decided that snapping photos and driving by are not harassment, then you grab a camera and start taking photos of the men and women who attend that mosque, especially the mullahs and leaders. You also take down license plate numbers and have it on file in a place separate from your house should anything untoward occur. In addition, you send all photos not to the local LEO's but to the FBI office in Atlanta as well as NSA, ICE and any other alphabet bureau that deals with foreign nationals. My own Dallas suburb now has four mosques. Some are very open and work with the neighborhood, working with other faith based orgnizations, but one (which is scarily near our water treatment plant) refuses outsiders and has invited controversial speakers. It may be that an outreach from a community religious group would help, but if they are Shia, they will not go along. You may also want to enlist any people who are Middle Eastern Christians or Indians who are Hindu in this endeavor because some of the more Wahabist groups are very aggressive personally and legally. Be careful and keep your powder dry.
Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:56:00 pm
Outrage!
Aren't more infidel citizens armed?
I wouldn't want to threaten the Georgians I know. LOL.
Sunday, June 27, 2010 10:07:00 pm
It seems those Muslims had better heed Angel Alonzo's words.
Sunday, June 27, 2010 10:11:00 pm
I've been making suggestions similar to Ellen K's on ATLAS and other sites that have this story. This is an ideal situation for documentation of harassment. If you check the google map for Hood Road in Lilburn, it is part of a section of dead-ends extending off the Lawrenceville Highway. In other words, once you drive in you can't just drive through, you have to turn around somewhere and go back out the way you came in. And as Ellen points out, hey, the police have said that snapping photos is no problem. If there are a few retired or other people in the area who could put in a night or two patroling with a camera that might yield some interesting results. This is probably not the first and certainly not the last situation of its kind to develop, and it has good possibilities as a learning experience. The residents can learn to fight back, the ostriches can learn something about what's going on these days, and the muzzies can learn that intimidation doesn't always work as well as they thought it would.
Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:25:00 pm
Pastorius, I went to the mosque construction protest in Brooklyn today. Here is the photo report.
Monday, June 28, 2010 12:18:00 am
It's great to see the protests blooming all over the place! For every 200-300 people who come out to protest, hundreds and thousands more get a wake-up call and finally start paying attention.
Monday, June 28, 2010 12:34:00 am
Watcher,
Thanks. I just posted it.
Monday, June 28, 2010 12:45:00 am
RRA,
You and Ellen K think alike.
Monday, June 28, 2010 12:45:00 am
Hey, We got Castle laws in Georgia. If you step even 1 foot on my property in a threatening manner, you're dead. Not only will your relatives not be able to win a lawsuit, they're legally barred from suing me in the first place. Prosecutors are also legally barred from taking any action against me.
Monday, June 28, 2010 1:04:00 am
Wow, I didn't know that.
Monday, June 28, 2010 1:39:00 am
Yah actually I can't even see the problem.
Live video, even with decoy cameras just in case
I have a feeling Georgia police will enforce, and may believe the complaints (HOW MANY?) but without the proof and the ability to make arrest the statements that they cannot substantiate any claim is certainly correct.
However the article stating that that the residents are locked and loaded either will deter or not. If not, I have a feeling there will be proof forthcoming of one kind or another
Monday, June 28, 2010 11:30:00 am