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January 16, 2009 --
COURTNEY Love claims she's not taking drugs anymore, but you wouldn't know it from comments she made in the Jewish magazine Heeb. Love, whose mother is Jewish but who describes herself as Buddhist....
Yes, Greg. You are right. She did blow her career by saying what should not have been said. And you will notice how the writer of this article had to throw his/her opinion and make Courtney look bad and stupid.
When IN FACT, it is BECAUSE she is not doing drugs, that she is able to see things more clearly [than ever before] to see the truth for what it actually is.
Artists do not get all of their money, yet it IS their money. So many loopholes, small print, hundreds of pages, months of meetings to all these contracts.
Artists just want to make music and perform. Doing drugs and drinking alcohol blinds them to the realities of their contracts.
Aimee Mann doesn't mention jews but she does mention Irving Azoff. And there are a lot of irving azoffs at the top ranks of the music industry.
Notice how Aimee Mann says in the beginning of the video how amazed she is that no one has taken a machine gun and sprayed bullits all over CBS building.
Aimee Mann is a great singer and lyricist, yet hardly gets any play on the MSM, while the trashy and minimally talented Amy Winehouse is all over the place.
Let me preface this by saying it is an opinion piece.
I went to school with one person who became prominent in the Seattle grunge scene, and a friend of theirs who also works in the local music industry.
I was told by one of them that the bisexual Cobain had had an affair with a gay Jewish media mogul. This mogul gave Cobain $1 million as a gift, no strings attached. At that point, Cobain switched to the big Jewish producer and left the other behind.
The buzz in the local music industry was that Cobain was murdered in revenge for switching loyalties - no blood found at the scene meant that he was killed somewhere else and brought to his home. This was a hit. They don't believe Ms. Love had anything to do with it.
Monday, March 16, 2009
Anonymous said...
Wow.
Seems there are alot of 'bi-sexual' nyphomaniacs in music.
(sex drive * envy) ^ perversion = 6
'gay people' are actually sex-addicts who would varyingly stick it anywhere, with anything, without inhibition, and who simply are not grossed out by perversions.
To each their own, but i would not rent them my house.
About 70% of gays are addicted to alcohol or drugs. This is in contrast to the general population's 10% rate of addiction.
Addiction is a cause of a lot of criminal and non-criminal (i.e. promiscuity) behaviors that you see in certain groups.
Most felons are addicts. Most gang members are as well.
Alcohol causes changes in the brain and the addiction process is largely genetic (Africans, native Americans and N. Europeans are very susceptible to addiction because alcohol was not historically one of their major food groups as it was with the Italians and other Mediterranean people - in other words, they have not yet achieved genetic acclimation to alcohol).
Cobain was an addict first and foremost. I reckon the mogul is as well.
He was not gay. Like you said, andie, that is all hearsay [opinion].
I don't know why someone like Cobain [who had a rotten childhood and turned to drugs] should also be someone who became gay.
He went into the music business broken, he stayed broken in spirit despite his fame and fortune, and whoever killed him or didn't, not for a minute do I think he was ever gay, regardless of all the hearsay.
Here is some more info (more than hearsay - it's "his say"):
Kurt Cobain was bisexual, though it is not clear that he ever consummated this part of his persona. As a teen he was arrested and fined $180 for spraypainting "Homosex Rules" on an outside wall. He received also a thirty-day suspended sentence (Come As You Are, pp. 39-40). Furthermore in the February 1991 issue of The Advocate, Kurt says, "If I wouldn't have found Courtney, I probably would have carried on with a bisexual lifestyle." http://www.nndb.com/people/939/000025864/
Tuesday, March 17, 2009
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Anonymous said...
. ..bi-sexuals are not gay, tell me another one! lol
..next they're gonna try to tell us it's not perversion.
deal with it, and for the most part, leave 'em alone.
Never said that all rotten childhoods produce all people prone to addictions. There are people with great childhoods who get involved with drugs. And that has nothing to do with Kurt Cobain and this gossip about his sexuality, which is exactly what it is ..GOSSIP.
I AM talking about what a messed up childhood he just happened to have had, and the messed up way his life stayed, does not mean he is gay.
Bisexual IS gay. There is no such thing as mixed signals. Once a man crosses the that line he is GAY.
May I remind you andie531, that Kurt Cobain loved to speak satirically and mock at the media to make his points. He was fed up with the media and fed up with the music industry.
In an interview on MTV, he stated he would love to sue the tabloids but they are much more wealthier than he was and it was too much of a headache and waste of his time to be in court for who knows how many months, possibly more than a year.
Cobain was friends with a gay student at his school, sometimes suffering bullying at the hands of homophobic students. That friendship led some to believe that he himself was gay. In one of his personal journals, Cobain wrote, "I am not gay, although I wish I were, just to piss off homophobes." In a 1993 interview with The Advocate, Cobain claimed that he used to spray paint "God is Gay" on pickup trucks around Aberdeen. Cobain also claimed he was arrested in 1985 for spray-painting "HOMO SEX RULES" on a bank.
Using that logic, we have no proof he was an addict either, because we were not there in the room when he was using. Maybe Courtney just kept him pumped up with drugs.
Whatever.
Gays would argue that Bisexual is not gay. Gays would argue that a pedophile that goes after boys is not gay. I'm not into illogical hair splitting. You can say it's gay, I don't care if it is or not. Some gay men would never get intimate with a woman. A bisexual would. Let's leave it at that, otherwise this crap is going to get me VERY VERY tired.
These professional friends are only talking.
They don't have proof, these professional friends of yours.
No, they only heard HIM talking. And you didn't know Cobain as they did.
They're connected with a very well known grunge band. One of them VERY intimately as a spouse. They knew Cobain and Love as part of their retinue. I'll take their word any day over yours.
When you say "(Cobain) who had a rotten childhood and turned to drugs", you are making an insinuation that one is the cause of the other.
Here's a fact: Your comments about Kurt Cobain are gossip, opinion, not truthful.
You have all the freedom in the world to believe your fancy professional friends.
When you say ridiculous things like: "I was told by one of them that the bisexual Cobain had had an affair with a gay Jewish media mogul. This mogul gave Cobain $1 million as a gift, no strings attached. At that point, Cobain switched to the big Jewish producer and left the other behind.
The buzz in the local music industry was that Cobain was murdered in revenge for switching loyalties"
That is pure idiotic, nonfactual gossip. And words like "buzz" don't help your case.
And I don't know where you get your ideas from when you imply that I am "shouting you down" and have called you "names".
Your imagination is running overtime.
As for your exchanging ideas, you are the one that got all huffy and with this: "Let's leave it at that, otherwise this crap is going to get me VERY VERY tired".
And you are the one that started with all this "illogical hair splitting" about Cobain and your professional friends.
Do believe in all the silly gossip, by all means. Just like you now believe I idolize Cobain.
Not so "very very tired" [are you?]as desperate people never tire of being foolish with cheap, frivolous talk.
And I must offer you my sympathies: I don't know if you are a female or what. But if you were to carry on with a "bisexual" guy and think he will stay on board, just for little you, I've got a planet that looks like Jupiter which whirls around our moon! Gay men who fool around with women are the most dishonest creeps around, unless they have told the woman upfront he has been with men.
If you don't get that, you have my sympathy.
I see that you do not know the meaning of "hysterical" and "infatuation".
But you also don't know what a lot of other words mean, for instance: FACTS GOSSIP COERCION OPINION
and so on...
And I just gave you FACTUAL EVIDENCE to refute what you said about Cobain and that stupidity about "homosex is great", what he had "supposedly" written:
Cobain also claimed he was arrested in 1985 for spray-painting "HOMO SEX RULES" on a bank. However, Aberdeen police records show that the phrase for which he was arrested was actually "Ain't got no how watchamacallit"
But apparently you don't want to read FACTS, my "very very tired" friend.
"To prevent them from really thinking out anything themselves, we shall DEFLECT THEIR ATTENTION to amusements, games, pastimes, excitements and people's palaces. Such intends will DISTRACT THEIR MINDS COMPLETELY from questions on which we might be obliged to struggle with them. Becoming less and less accustomed to independent thinking, people will express themselves in unison with us because we alone offer new lines of thought-of course through persons whom they do not consider as in any way connected with us."
I see you thrive on sensationalism that the zionist jew media serves up, the kind of mean-spirited talk that hurts and brings people down. Oh well... so much for "We should be able to exchange ideas and discuss them without this name calling"...so you said.
You contradict yourself with every comment you put in.
I'm not pissed, unless you're talking about what's happening when I laugh at this stuff. You're the one who seems to be "losing it".
You are probably the Zionist here. You don't name call? You just did.
So there.
Why don't you actually READ what I wrote instead of twisting it?
To GR. IMHO, bi and homo are pretty much one and the same. The gays make distinctions and statements such as sexuality is on "a spectrum".
To quote is not to "promote" - Something Ms. Hysterical will NEVER get. This blog is destined to go on forever, since she insists on smearing anyone who has a different opinion.
All I have to do is look at your comments and you do it all to yourself.
I will not have you, in dumbed down fashion, come here to say such bogus crap about Cobain, certainly not without my having to put your garbage where it belongs.
And so go ahead. Keep on smearing yourself by being a mouthpiece for the press.
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The most ruthless life form on earth are journalists. The most evil, uncaring fuck heads, the bitterest people I’ve ever known. I have absolutely no respect for anyone who is a journalist. You are a person obviously going out of your way for the story and making up lies for the story, those are the kind of people I’m talking about, that just happens to be 99% of them.
Honestly, I don't give a s**t what YOU think. But you are engaging in the old "shout 'em down" tactic. Which is Marxist/Communist/Fascist/Zionist, and the more you do it, the more you obfuscate, the more I'm convinced you're a shill.
Even if KC wasn't bi or homo, there has been a great deal of controversy about his death. It's very possible it was a murder. A moneyed producer killing him to get even with another producer with even more money makes more sense than the accusations that his wife killed him.
It's possible, in light of Cobain's addiction, that he may have done a one time sleep over with a gay man who could give him a bigger shot at fame.
WE DON'T KNOW - and NEITHER DO YOU.
However, I have a right to post information that I have heard, from people who knew Cobain personally, who are in the industry.
You have done nothing but engage in an illogical SHOUT DOWN, with NO BETTER PROOF to back up your claims. You sound like a silly 15 year old.
So let me put it this way:
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
Otherwise, you're just another Mel Gibstein. If you keep it up, I'll just keep posting this - I have no more to say to you.
LOL okay...keep posting like a brat having a temper tantrum. GOOD. Keep proving my points to everyone who reads your unhinged comments.
wah wah wah! - "However, I have a right to post information that I have heard, from people who knew Cobain personally, who are in the industry."
Yes. You do have a right to spread lies on a blog. No one will throw you in jail for it. I agree. Information from what you heard is HEARSAY, not the TRUTH, a vicious rumour from a nitwit gossip such as you. Just like the nitwit gossips on CNN and the rest of the gossips in the media. And they all have a right. No one is throwing them in jail.
By all means, do the bidding of rupert murdock, glen beck, bernard lewis, larry king and wolf blitzer.
The subject was an illustration, through Aimee Mann, how the music industry can screw up artists. Another such singer-songwriter is Pete Ham, whose manager ripped off the band, Bad Finger.
Now we have andie, a spokesperson for the zio-press who makes a pat claim about Kurt Cobain, which, simply, is a lie.
andie - "It's possible, in light of Cobain's addiction, that he may have done a one time sleep over with a gay man who could give him a bigger shot at fame."
This kind of witless speculation is what gossip is all about. If people would like get a recap about what gossip is and how damaging it can be to people, just read andie's comments.
For the record: This post is not about the sexual orientation of musicians.
It would have been ideal and on point to bring up Allen Klein, who was notorious for ripping off bands such as the Stones, Beatles, and Herman's Hermits.
DIANA dear - "Oh no, a cat fight." was not meant as an insult, just a pointed sense of humor towards both of you to relax a little. I assume with the spelling of the name that andie is a woman also. It was a joke, thats all. Steve said it well. God bless you both. One thing I know is that the Zio-press will relish us fighting. Excuse me for butting in. I will go now.
I wasn't going to put another comment on this post, but now I must.
THANKS. Insults I don't need. Referees I don't need. Precious minutes from God, I don't need reminding of.
I don't need to be treated like I am on equal footing with a nitwit like this andie who has tainted this blog with what she thinks she knows is the truth. And therefore, she has DEVIATED from the main message of this blog, right from the beginning.
If people will read the comments and go to links I have provided, they will clearly understand the argument.
I have never deviated with my arguments, while at the same time, telling this foolish person that hearsay about Kurt Cobain NEED NOT APPLY.
And I just explained everything and wrapped it up nicely with what I though to be my last comment.
To Diana, or whoever he is: thanks for all your insults, lack of logic, hysteria, nitwitty comments, homophobic comments, idol worship and crushing of others right to speech. What a crackpot.
To qrswave: Agree to disagree? Absolutely. I would. Dizzy D will never.
If what I had written was true, I would have indicated that. I did not. It was rumor, however, so is everything else on KC's death. It is rumor from some who were close to him. That's all it was.
Then comes the deluge.
DD starts in with a river of insults, shout downs, nutty accusations on who I am, which are libel.
There is no proof how this man died because it was covered up, but to say that it is off topic is completely missing the point.
He was owned by the J media, just like the rest of the big artists under contract (on topic) and MAY HAVE (I am not saying this is true Dizzy D, so don't have another fit) MAY HAVE been offed by one of them in a revenge killing.
Vanessa Redgrave made a speech at one of the Oscars way back when - an angry speech where she mentioned "zionist hoodlums" - as I recall when I saw it.
Some head trauma causes the brain to bleed - not right away. This may have been an accident. However, I did think it was a little weird when both Sonny Bono and one of the Kennedys died skiing after slamming into a tree. The same year. That seemed a little odd.
Waiting for more comments from Dizzy...
Friday, March 20, 2009
Proprietary Vibrations ~ Cultural Subversion January 16, 2009 ~ ZY poostCourtenay Love ~ About comments she made in the Jewish magazine Heeb. Love, whose mother is Jewish but who describes herself as Buddhist, says of ex-husband Kurt Cobain's legacy: "Every time you buy a Nirvana record, part of that money is not going to Kurt's child, or to me, it's going to a handful of Jew loan officers, Jew private banks, it's going to lawyers who are also bankers . . ."
http://www.radioislam.org/ford/intjew11.htm // zikipedia The Music Publishers’ Association was organized by “Sime” Silberman and Maurice Goodman, and now all the Jewish song manufacturers are included in it. The organization has not changed any of the methods before used but has curtailed the expense. Moreover, it has served to relieve the public to this extent, that, instead of clinging to the one song paid for until the public positively gags on it, the vaudeville or movie performers now sing impartially the various songs of the various publishers forming the trust. More variety has been introduced, that is all. The same old commercialization continues.
As readers of the studies of Jewish theatrical control, which appeared in this paper, will readily understand, the Jewish control of the popular song field means that all non-Jews are barred out. It would be next to impossible for the song of a non-Jew, however meritorious, to reach the public by the usual channels. The musical magazines, the musical critics, the musical managers, the music publishers, the music-hall owners, the majority of the performers are not only all Jews, but are Jews consciously banded together to keep out all others.
The dishonest methods practiced by the Yiddish controllers of this field have been such as to move the Billboard, the leading vaudeville publication, to refuse to print advertisements calling for song poems. Perhaps the reader has seen such advertisements, suggesting that someone has a tune or a song-poem that will probably make a fortune if only sent to an address on Broadway or in the region of Tin Pan Alley.
The Billboard says: “No More Song Poem Ads Accepted“"After investigating the business methods practiced by some Song Poem advertisers, the Billboard believes it to be to the best interest of its readers to eliminate the heading, ‘Music and Words’ under which Song Poem advertisements appeared, and hereafter, or until existing conditions are changed, the Billboard will not accept any more Song Poem advertising from any concern or person . . . .” Everywhere the “popular song” has been attacked by keen observers of social tendencies—but the attack has not been made intelligently. No public menace like this can be abolished without showing the public the source of it. Newspapers are now beginning to attack “jazz,” “the vicious movies,” “the disgraceful dance.” Others attack the young folk who sing jazz, the people who patronize the objectionable movies, the throngs who indulge in indecent dancing. But all the time a small group of men are deliberately and systematically forcing jazz and movies and dances upon the country, spending hundreds of thousands in the effort and reaping millions in profits.
If these men were non-Jews, a multitude of fingers would be pointed toward them in identification and denunciation.
Because these men are Jews, they are allowed to go free. You will stop these abuses when you point out the Jewish group behind them! People sometimes say, “Well, if you went after any other nationality, you could find just as much fault as with the Jews.” Is there any other nationality on which you can fasten the responsibility for vile movies? Is there any other on which you can fasten the responsibility for the illicit liquor traffic? Has any other nationality control of the theater? In the beginning action against the popular song trust, could the United States find anyone to indict besides Jewish song publishers, and could the United States Government lay less than 80 per cent of song control to one New York group alone?
If these things were not strictly Jewish in their origin, method and purpose, how could such statements be made?
Jews say, “Clean up among the Gentiles first, and then turn attention to us.” Will the Jews charge Gentile control of movies, popular songs, horse racing, baseball gambling, theaters, the illicit liquor traffic—will the Jews charge Gentile predominance in any line recognized by moralists today as dangerously menacing the public welfare?
The question is too big to be explained by prejudice. The facts are too challenging to be thrust aside as universal. It is a Jewish question, made such by a series of Jewish facts.
Not content with hedging life about on every side, from the gold that is used in business to the grain that is used in bread, Jewish influence enters your parlor and determines what you shall sing at your piano or hear upon your music reproducing machine. If you could put a tag marked “Jewish” on every part of your life that is Jew-controlled, you would be astonished at the showing.
Henry Ford The International Jew
-The Thirteenth Protocol "To prevent them from really thinking out anything themselves, we shall deflect their attention to amusements, games, pastimes, excitements and people's palaces. Such intends will distract their minds completely from questions on which we might be obliged to struggle with them. Becoming less and less accustomed to independent thinking, people will express themselves in unison with us because we alone offer new lines of thought-of course through persons whom they do not consider as in any way connected with us. "
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Close this window Jump to comment formCourtney just blew her musical career all to hell.
The only places she'll be allowed to play is in beer soaked dives and biker bars.
Monday, March 16, 2009
The whole paragraph was not posted for a reason. This below is the deleted part:
January 16, 2009 --
COURTNEY Love claims she's not taking drugs anymore, but you wouldn't know it from comments she made in the Jewish magazine Heeb. Love, whose mother is Jewish but who describes herself as Buddhist....
Yes, Greg. You are right. She did blow her career by saying what should not have been said. And you will notice how the writer of this article had to throw his/her opinion and make Courtney look bad and stupid.
When IN FACT, it is BECAUSE she is not doing drugs, that she is able to see things more clearly [than ever before] to see the truth for what it actually is.
Artists do not get all of their money, yet it IS their money. So many loopholes, small print, hundreds of pages, months of meetings to all these contracts.
Artists just want to make music and perform. Doing drugs and drinking alcohol blinds them to the realities of their contracts.
Aimee Mann doesn't mention jews but she does mention Irving Azoff. And there are a lot of irving azoffs at the top ranks of the music industry.
Notice how Aimee Mann says in the beginning of the video how amazed she is that no one has taken a machine gun and sprayed bullits all over CBS building.
It is quite amazing.
Monday, March 16, 2009
Aimee Mann is a great singer and lyricist, yet hardly gets any play on the MSM, while the trashy and minimally talented Amy Winehouse is all over the place.
Monday, March 16, 2009
Let me preface this by saying it is an opinion piece.
I went to school with one person who became prominent in the Seattle grunge scene, and a friend of theirs who also works in the local music industry.
I was told by one of them that the bisexual Cobain had had an affair with a gay Jewish media mogul. This mogul gave Cobain $1 million as a gift, no strings attached. At that point, Cobain switched to the big Jewish producer and left the other behind.
The buzz in the local music industry was that Cobain was murdered in revenge for switching loyalties - no blood found at the scene meant that he was killed somewhere else and brought to his home. This was a hit. They don't believe Ms. Love had anything to do with it.
Monday, March 16, 2009
Wow.
Seems there are alot of 'bi-sexual' nyphomaniacs in music.
(sex drive * envy) ^ perversion = 6
'gay people' are actually sex-addicts who would varyingly stick it anywhere, with anything, without inhibition, and who simply are not grossed out by perversions.
To each their own, but i would not rent them my house.
so sue me.
Monday, March 16, 2009
About 70% of gays are addicted to alcohol or drugs. This is in contrast to the general population's 10% rate of addiction.
Addiction is a cause of a lot of criminal and non-criminal (i.e. promiscuity) behaviors that you see in certain groups.
Most felons are addicts. Most gang members are as well.
Alcohol causes changes in the brain and the addiction process is largely genetic (Africans, native Americans and N. Europeans are very susceptible to addiction because alcohol was not historically one of their major food groups as it was with the Italians and other Mediterranean people - in other words, they have not yet achieved genetic acclimation to alcohol).
Cobain was an addict first and foremost. I reckon the mogul is as well.
See:
http://www.10547.info/thorburn/tsari.html
also: http://www.amenclinics.com/clinics/information/ways-we-can-help/substance-abuse/
Monday, March 16, 2009
Cobain was gay?
He was not gay. Like you said, andie, that is all hearsay [opinion].
I don't know why someone like Cobain [who had a rotten childhood and turned to drugs] should also be someone who became gay.
He went into the music business broken, he stayed broken in spirit despite his fame and fortune, and whoever killed him or didn't, not for a minute do I think he was ever gay, regardless of all the hearsay.
Tuesday, March 17, 2009
Not gay. Bisexual.
I have friends who knew him professionally.
Here is some more info (more than hearsay - it's "his say"):
Kurt Cobain was bisexual, though it is not clear that he ever consummated this part of his persona. As a teen he was arrested and fined $180 for spraypainting "Homosex Rules" on an outside wall. He received also a thirty-day suspended sentence (Come As You Are, pp. 39-40). Furthermore in the February 1991 issue of The Advocate, Kurt says, "If I wouldn't have found Courtney, I probably would have carried on with a bisexual lifestyle."
http://www.nndb.com/people/939/000025864/
Tuesday, March 17, 2009
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..bi-sexuals are not gay, tell me another one! lol
..next they're gonna try to tell us it's not perversion.
deal with it, and for the most part, leave 'em alone.
Tuesday, March 17, 2009
It's also a big myth that addiction the result of a bad childhood or stress (if that were true, I'd be the world's biggest junkie):
http://www.preventtragedyfoundation.org/pages/research/diseasenotdefect.html
Tuesday, March 17, 2009
BTW, I wrote that as an "opinion" piece because prefacing a statement with "In my opinion" leaves one legally protected.
In other words, I do not wish to sleep with the fish(es). I don't want to live in fear of gay Jewish media moguls.
Tuesday, March 17, 2009
Never said that all rotten childhoods produce all people prone to addictions. There are people with great childhoods who get involved with drugs. And that has nothing to do with Kurt Cobain and this gossip about his sexuality, which is exactly what it is ..GOSSIP.
I AM talking about what a messed up childhood he just happened to have had, and the messed up way his life stayed, does not mean he is gay.
Bisexual IS gay. There is no such thing as mixed signals. Once a man crosses the that line he is GAY.
May I remind you andie531, that Kurt Cobain loved to speak satirically and mock at the media to make his points. He was fed up with the media and fed up with the music industry.
In an interview on MTV, he stated he would love to sue the tabloids but they are much more wealthier than he was and it was too much of a headache and waste of his time to be in court for who knows how many months, possibly more than a year.
Tuesday, March 17, 2009
These professional friends are only talking.
They don't have proof, these professional friends of yours.
And Kurt Cobain's SAY is in his DIARIES.
And this from links below:
Cobain was friends with a gay student at his school, sometimes suffering bullying at the hands of homophobic students. That friendship led some to believe that he himself was gay. In one of his personal journals, Cobain wrote, "I am not gay, although I wish I were, just to piss off homophobes." In a 1993 interview with The Advocate, Cobain claimed that he used to spray paint "God is Gay" on pickup trucks around Aberdeen. Cobain also claimed he was arrested in 1985 for spray-painting "HOMO SEX RULES" on a bank.
However, Aberdeen police records show that the phrase for which he was arrested was actually "Ain't got no how watchamacallit"
Tuesday, March 17, 2009
Using that logic, we have no proof he was an addict either, because we were not there in the room when he was using. Maybe Courtney just kept him pumped up with drugs.
Whatever.
Gays would argue that Bisexual is not gay. Gays would argue that a pedophile that goes after boys is not gay. I'm not into illogical hair splitting. You can say it's gay, I don't care if it is or not. Some gay men would never get intimate with a woman. A bisexual would. Let's leave it at that, otherwise this crap is going to get me VERY VERY tired.
These professional friends are only talking.
They don't have proof, these professional friends of yours.
No, they only heard HIM talking. And you didn't know Cobain as they did.
They're connected with a very well known grunge band. One of them VERY intimately as a spouse. They knew Cobain and Love as part of their retinue. I'll take their word any day over yours.
When you say "(Cobain) who had a rotten childhood and turned to drugs", you are making an insinuation that one is the cause of the other.
Peace. Out. I've had it with this conversation.
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
Good.
Because we don't need gossip on this blog.
We don't need hearsay.
We don't need to behave like the zionist media.
And we never did have to bring up this nonsense on Cobain's sexual orientation in the first place.
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
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Wednesday, March 18, 2009
You know, I think you idolize this guy so much that you can't see beyond your own ideas. Is it love?
Bad case of cognitive dissonance?
You want to call it gossip, hearsay, whatever, fine.
Why your information is any better than gossip or hearsay is beyond me.
His diaries? He says in his diaries "I'm not a junkie."
Or as members of AA say "...when I was using, I wasn't (an alcoholic)." It's called denial.
Shouting people down, BTW, is very much like the Zio Press. It's straight out of Purim.
We should be able to exchange ideas and discuss them without this name calling.
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
andie your comments are falling apart.
Here's a fact: Your comments about Kurt Cobain are gossip, opinion, not truthful.
You have all the freedom in the world to believe your fancy professional friends.
When you say ridiculous things like: "I was told by one of them that the bisexual Cobain had had an affair with a gay Jewish media mogul. This mogul gave Cobain $1 million as a gift, no strings attached. At that point, Cobain switched to the big Jewish producer and left the other behind.
The buzz in the local music industry was that Cobain was murdered in revenge for switching loyalties"
That is pure idiotic, nonfactual gossip. And words like "buzz" don't help your case.
And I don't know where you get your ideas from when you imply that I am "shouting you down" and have called you "names".
Your imagination is running overtime.
As for your exchanging ideas, you are the one that got all huffy and with this:
"Let's leave it at that, otherwise this crap is going to get me VERY VERY tired".
And you are the one that started with all this "illogical hair splitting" about Cobain and your professional friends.
Do believe in all the silly gossip, by all means. Just like you now believe I idolize Cobain.
My information stands superior to yours.
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
My information stands superior to yours
How? He lied about being a junkie. Typical addict. Will lie about anything and everything. He could have easily lied about being gay or bi.
You are infatuated and defensive and your "facts" are no better than anyone elses'.
Labeling what I had to say as "gossip" and "hearsay" is basically name calling. Calling it "idiotic" is name calling.
Let people talk without getting hysterical. Let others connect the dots without your coercion.
What got me VERY, VERY TIRED was this argument that gay did/didn't cover bisexual. Quit taking things out of context.
You wouldn't know fact from opinion if it wanged you upside the head.
Thanks.
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
Just listen to yourself.
So desperate!
Not so "very very tired" [are you?]as desperate people never tire of being foolish with cheap, frivolous talk.
And I must offer you my sympathies: I don't know if you are a female or what. But if you were to carry on with a "bisexual" guy and think he will stay on board, just for little you, I've got a planet that looks like Jupiter which whirls around our moon! Gay men who fool around with women are the most dishonest creeps around, unless they have told the woman upfront he has been with men.
If you don't get that, you have my sympathy.
I see that you do not know the meaning of "hysterical" and "infatuation".
But you also don't know what a lot of other words mean, for instance:
FACTS
GOSSIP
COERCION
OPINION
and so on...
And I just gave you FACTUAL EVIDENCE to refute what you said about Cobain and that stupidity about "homosex is great", what he had "supposedly" written:
Cobain also claimed he was arrested in 1985 for spray-painting "HOMO SEX RULES" on a bank.
However, Aberdeen police records show that the phrase for which he was arrested was actually "Ain't got no how watchamacallit"
But apparently you don't want to read FACTS, my "very very tired" friend.
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
Put a cork in it sweetie. Lose the hysteria. Lose the superior attitude. Quit thinking only YOU have facts.
AND
Go hang with your people:
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/kurt-cobain
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
I'm really pissing you off.
Good.
Of course the link you provide is garbage.
You fit right in with their mold:
-The Thirteenth Protocol
"To prevent them from really thinking out anything themselves, we shall DEFLECT THEIR ATTENTION to amusements, games, pastimes, excitements and people's palaces. Such intends will DISTRACT THEIR MINDS COMPLETELY from questions on which we might be obliged to struggle with them. Becoming less and less accustomed to independent thinking, people will express themselves in unison with us because we alone offer new lines of thought-of course through persons whom they do not consider as in any way connected with us."
I see you thrive on sensationalism that the zionist jew media serves up, the kind of mean-spirited talk that hurts and brings people down. Oh well... so much for "We should be able to exchange ideas and discuss them without this name calling"...so you said.
You contradict yourself with every comment you put in.
And you did not "exchange ideas". You spewed off with LIES ABOUT KURT COBAIN.
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
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Kurt Cobain's DEAD, not gay.
Bi-sexual people ARE gay.
Those that deny it are bi-sexuals.
lol
Thursday, March 19, 2009
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Thursday, March 19, 2009
As typical, Ms. D - no logic.
You are making yourself look pretty funny though.
I'm not pissed, unless you're talking about what's happening when I laugh at this stuff. You're the one who seems to be "losing it".
You are probably the Zionist here. You don't name call? You just did.
So there.
Why don't you actually READ what I wrote instead of twisting it?
To GR. IMHO, bi and homo are pretty much one and the same. The gays make distinctions and statements such as sexuality is on "a spectrum".
To quote is not to "promote" - Something Ms. Hysterical will NEVER get. This blog is destined to go on forever, since she insists on smearing anyone who has a different opinion.
Thursday, March 19, 2009
You smear yourself [with your opinion].
All I have to do is look at your comments and you do it all to yourself.
I will not have you, in dumbed down fashion, come here to say such bogus crap about Cobain, certainly not without my having to put your garbage where it belongs.
And so go ahead. Keep on smearing yourself by being a mouthpiece for the press.
===================================
The most ruthless life form on earth are journalists. The most evil, uncaring fuck heads, the bitterest people I’ve ever known. I have absolutely no respect for anyone who is a journalist. You are a person obviously going out of your way for the story and making up lies for the story, those are the kind of people I’m talking about, that just happens to be 99% of them.
No matter what we do, no matter how clean we live our lives, we’re not going to survive this because there are too many fucking enemies.
We’ve offended too many people. Everyone wants to see us die.
Kurt Cobain
Thursday, March 19, 2009
Honestly, I don't give a s**t what YOU think. But you are engaging in the old "shout 'em down" tactic. Which is Marxist/Communist/Fascist/Zionist, and the more you do it, the more you obfuscate, the more I'm convinced you're a shill.
Even if KC wasn't bi or homo, there has been a great deal of controversy about his death. It's very possible it was a murder. A moneyed producer killing him to get even with another producer with even more money makes more sense than the accusations that his wife killed him.
It's possible, in light of Cobain's addiction, that he may have done a one time sleep over with a gay man who could give him a bigger shot at fame.
WE DON'T KNOW - and NEITHER DO YOU.
However, I have a right to post information that I have heard, from people who knew Cobain personally, who are in the industry.
You have done nothing but engage in an illogical SHOUT DOWN, with NO BETTER PROOF to back up your claims. You sound like a silly 15 year old.
So let me put it this way:
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, QUIT ENGAGING IN ZIONIST SHOUT DOWNS, LET OTHER PEOPLE SORT OUT THE INFO FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR COERCION.
Otherwise, you're just another Mel Gibstein. If you keep it up, I'll just keep posting this - I have no more to say to you.
Thursday, March 19, 2009
Wow....look at all the hysterics up there!
LOL okay...keep posting like a brat having a temper tantrum. GOOD. Keep proving my points to everyone who reads your unhinged comments.
wah wah wah! - "However, I have a right to post information that I have heard, from people who knew Cobain personally, who are in the industry."
Yes. You do have a right to spread lies on a blog. No one will throw you in jail for it. I agree. Information from what you heard is HEARSAY, not the TRUTH, a vicious rumour from a nitwit gossip such as you. Just like the nitwit gossips on CNN and the rest of the gossips in the media. And they all have a right. No one is throwing them in jail.
By all means, do the bidding of rupert murdock, glen beck, bernard lewis, larry king and wolf blitzer.
Thursday, March 19, 2009
Oh no, a cat fight.
Thursday, March 19, 2009
Great. An insult from maritza. Thanks. This post already has enough insults from andie.
Thursday, March 19, 2009
Everybody go to neutral corners. God bless you all.
Back to the subject at hand. For proof of the denigration of culture, every night, just see Letterman.
Thursday, March 19, 2009
The subject was an illustration, through Aimee Mann, how the music industry can screw up artists. Another such singer-songwriter is Pete Ham, whose manager ripped off the band, Bad Finger.
Now we have andie, a spokesperson for the zio-press who makes a pat claim about Kurt Cobain, which, simply, is a lie.
andie - "It's possible, in light of Cobain's addiction, that he may have done a one time sleep over with a gay man who could give him a bigger shot at fame."
This kind of witless speculation is what gossip is all about. If people would like get a recap about what gossip is and how damaging it can be to people, just read andie's comments.
For the record:
This post is not about the sexual orientation of musicians.
It would have been ideal and on point to bring up Allen Klein, who was notorious for ripping off bands such as the Stones, Beatles, and Herman's Hermits.
Thursday, March 19, 2009
I'm a spokesman for the Zio-press?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!LOL
And you're not?
Thursday, March 19, 2009
DIANA dear - "Oh no, a cat fight."
was not meant as an insult, just a pointed sense of humor towards both of you to relax a little. I assume with the spelling of the name that andie is a woman also. It was a joke, thats all. Steve said it well. God bless you both. One thing I know is that the Zio-press will relish us fighting. Excuse me for butting in. I will go now.
Friday, March 20, 2009
No, I think Diana is a bisexual male zionist who pretends to be a homophobe.
Friday, March 20, 2009
i don't know what you guys are arguing about.
why not just agree to disagree?
on another note, vanessa redgrave's 45 yr old daughter died two days ago from blunt trauma to the head while skiing on a beginners slope in canada?
isn't vanessa redgrave a staunch pro-peace activist?
what's the story on the political views of Richardson's husband Liam Neesan?
It's so tragic that this mother of four had to die from such a simple and treatable head injury. It seems very odd too.
If nothing else, however, things like these are a sober reminder of how close to death each and every one of us is on any given day...
but for the grace of God any one of us can be killed at any time in any number of accidents ...
every minute is a gift from God.
let's not squander them fighting over inconsequential things.
Friday, March 20, 2009
UNBELIEVABLE.
I wasn't going to put another comment on this post, but now I must.
THANKS. Insults I don't need. Referees I don't need. Precious minutes from God, I don't need reminding of.
I don't need to be treated like I am on equal footing with a nitwit like this andie who has tainted this blog with what she thinks she knows is the truth. And therefore, she has DEVIATED from the main message of this blog, right from the beginning.
If people will read the comments and go to links I have provided, they will clearly understand the argument.
I have never deviated with my arguments, while at the same time, telling this foolish person that hearsay about Kurt Cobain NEED NOT APPLY.
And I just explained everything and wrapped it up nicely with what I though to be my last comment.
Again...THANKS for the insult.
Friday, March 20, 2009
To Diana, or whoever he is: thanks for all your insults, lack of logic, hysteria, nitwitty comments, homophobic comments, idol worship and crushing of others right to speech. What a crackpot.
To qrswave: Agree to disagree? Absolutely. I would. Dizzy D will never.
If what I had written was true, I would have indicated that. I did not. It was rumor, however, so is everything else on KC's death. It is rumor from some who were close to him. That's all it was.
Then comes the deluge.
DD starts in with a river of insults, shout downs, nutty accusations on who I am, which are libel.
There is no proof how this man died because it was covered up, but to say that it is off topic is completely missing the point.
He was owned by the J media, just like the rest of the big artists under contract (on topic) and MAY HAVE (I am not saying this is true Dizzy D, so don't have another fit)
MAY HAVE been offed by one of them in a revenge killing.
Vanessa Redgrave made a speech at one of the Oscars way back when - an angry speech where she mentioned "zionist hoodlums" - as I recall when I saw it.
Some head trauma causes the brain to bleed - not right away. This may have been an accident. However, I did think it was a little weird when both Sonny Bono and one of the Kennedys died skiing after slamming into a tree. The same year. That seemed a little odd.
Waiting for more comments from Dizzy...
Friday, March 20, 2009