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Blogger tomtom said...

Feel powerless? You are powerless. Blogging is not enough to stop the monster. The system must have a weak sspot all power system did have one why shouldn' this system have a Achilles heel. We need to find it soon. But t will never ne tolate turn it around it will take more time. Prepare to go underground.

TomTom Fearless Navigator

Tuesday, October 17, 2006

Blogger NormaC said...

This is OT:

Has anyone seen or heard about DIME weapons? I read about Palestinians being injured this past summer with an unknown weapon called DIME...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/
Story/0,,1924675,00.html
(Sorry it won't fit on one line...)

If this thing is true, it must be stopped! The sad part is how stabilized patients died suddenly, although they probably would have lived if not for the wounds from unconventional weapons.)

Naomi

Tuesday, October 17, 2006

Blogger bobw said...

The slightly less gloomy way to look at this is to believe that the Supreme Court will call this law unconstitutional. But that will take awhile, and meanwhile, no one will know who is being held or tortured and why.

The other mitigating point is that Bush didnt dream up this law himself. He has been told that it is necessary (mainly to provide immunity for crimes already committed.) We can't conclude from the law that Bush is actually dying to use it, to torture his first suspect, or throw us all in detention centers.

In other words, the bill is now law, but we dont know in what way or to what degree it will ever be used.

Wednesday, October 18, 2006

Blogger panicearly said...

how would you know if its being used?
what can you do about it at that point?
i think the main effect of this bill is to silence any opposition to the very bill when its being used.
If several people are rounded up in your town, if you pry into it to find out what s going on, you too cou;ld be taken into custody for material assistance to the group being interrogated. this is a good way to keep people away getting invloved with what the state is doing.
worked like a charm in Germany and Russia and many other places.

Wednesday, October 18, 2006

Blogger SpamFilter said...

It is worse than simply codifying torture.

It enables a `military commision` (which is just any group of American officers) to decide that someone is an 'illegal enemy combatant', and as such has no rights. It also allows the same commision to try, create punishment for, and execute that punishment (including death), without any legal recourse for the subject.

America is officially a despotic police state. There is no other way to phrase it.

Wednesday, October 18, 2006

Blogger qrswave said...

Naomi, YES - Israel uses DIME weapons.

Of all the disastrous things that have happened domestically, the MCA is by far the worst.

From here on, life in America will undergo very steep decline. There is no positive way to spin this.

This is the death knoll for active dissent - people will, rightly so, fear for their lives.

AMERICA IS A POLICE STATE.

Today, more than ever, I realize that Alex Jones made an eerily accurate prediction whe he named his site Prison Planet.

Wednesday, October 18, 2006

Blogger Brook said...

The USAPATRIOT Act allows you to be taken away for no publicly known reason. It is carefuly written to NOT exclude regular old American Citizens.
The Torture Bill allows yo to be tortured without means of legal retaliation. It is carefuly written to NOT exclude regular old American Citizens.

Wednesday, October 18, 2006

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