I plaxced this response to your comment on VoicecrackinDissent and post it also incase you do not see it there, I do not disagree with the message of this website or most of what I have read here(quickly), but can not go with out responding to you assertion there are no islamic extremists.
Osama Bin Laden is an Islamic extremist; he goes from country to country, because he has NO legitimate base, GET a clue about reality son.
Bin Laden wanted WAR with the west, and Bush and the neo-cons wanted war in Iraq, each has gotten what they wanted, to the detriment of the rest of the world. And those he sent out to hijack planes to attack this country were just his call to battle.
I do not disagree with what you website says, just you asinine assertion there are NO Islamic extremists. Just because HE was not in Iraq before 9-11-2001, or 3-17-2003, does not mean He is not there now trying to ferment more Jihad. And he definitely is attempting to gain control in the Muslin world to gain POWER just as the Bankers and rich use money as a base for power here.
Both Bush and the people he serves and Osama are about gaining power for them. To use to ferment their version of what the world should look like;
Osama wants a seventh century caliphate.
Bush wants a return to the Gilded Age of robber barons controlling all and using the masses for their profit.
Both are willing to lie, deceive their followers and kill as many people as required to achieve their ends. Both will use everything at their disposal and have no reservations about bringing complete fiascos upon this planet. Osama in countries like what Afghanistan had become, and Bush in Iraq, they both have created hells on earth to further their goals, and are willing to hijack real tragedies to fulfill their plans.
Osama hijacked the resentment of the Muslim world and Bush hijacked 9-11.
Both have a religious certainty about what they do, thus a deluded idea that they are doing Gods work here on earth.
Realize that by asserting something that is easily disprovable that you leave yourself open to attacks of the reichwingnuts which are all about the goals you describe on your website.
You said: "return to the Gilded Age of robber barons controlling all and using the masses for their profit."
return to what? We've never left it! It's been this way for centuries now.
Osama is just one man - and a dead one at that. You make much more out of him and any who might admire him than is really there. He did not orchestrate 9/11. He was not capable of it.
Who is it that gets together in mobs and hunts down, tortures and kills people who are different from them?
Who is it that teaches modesty, courtesy, and generositv but lives in depravity, rudeness, and greed?
Who is it that can gather together the time, energy and money to murder millions and destroy cities for the sake of a flag, deity, or economic system?
Not weirdoes, not kooks or cranks or nuts. It's the "Normal" people who do those things.
It's the "Normal" people who believe there's only one "real world" and it's the one THEY'RE living in.
It's the "Normal" people who kill each other over differences in that reality, and if someone can't trick themselves into ignoring the millions of inconsistencies or can't gloss over the gaping flaws in that reality-construct, or can't even pretend convincingly that they believe that flimsy and self-contradictory world is ALL TRUE, rather than have their own illusory stability undermined or accept that other ways of thinking and seeing might be valid, the "Normal" people imprison those "mentally ill," and experimentally destroy their personalities by use of drugs, electroconvulsion, and brain surgery.Of course, so-called 'terrorists' (which might include you) get the same treatment as, if not worse than, the 'mental ill.'
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Close this window Jump to comment formI plaxced this response to your comment on VoicecrackinDissent and post it also incase you do not see it there, I do not disagree with the message of this website or most of what I have read here(quickly), but can not go with out responding to you assertion there are no islamic extremists.
Osama Bin Laden is an Islamic extremist; he goes from country to country, because he has NO legitimate base, GET a clue about reality son.
Bin Laden wanted WAR with the west, and Bush and the neo-cons wanted war in Iraq, each has gotten what they wanted, to the detriment of the rest of the world. And those he sent out to hijack planes to attack this country were just his call to battle.
I do not disagree with what you website says, just you asinine assertion there are NO Islamic extremists. Just because HE was not in Iraq before 9-11-2001, or 3-17-2003, does not mean He is not there now trying to ferment more Jihad. And he definitely is attempting to gain control in the Muslin world to gain POWER just as the Bankers and rich use money as a base for power here.
Both Bush and the people he serves and Osama are about gaining power for them. To use to ferment their version of what the world should look like;
Osama wants a seventh century caliphate.
Bush wants a return to the Gilded Age of robber barons controlling all and using the masses for their profit.
Both are willing to lie, deceive their followers and kill as many people as required to achieve their ends. Both will use everything at their disposal and have no reservations about bringing complete fiascos upon this planet. Osama in countries like what Afghanistan had become, and Bush in Iraq, they both have created hells on earth to further their goals, and are willing to hijack real tragedies to fulfill their plans.
Osama hijacked the resentment of the Muslim world and Bush hijacked 9-11.
Both have a religious certainty about what they do, thus a deluded idea that they are doing Gods work here on earth.
Realize that by asserting something that is easily disprovable that you leave yourself open to attacks of the reichwingnuts which are all about the goals you describe on your website.
Sunday, October 15, 2006
hey, clif! thanks for stopping by!
You said: "return to the Gilded Age of robber barons controlling all and using the masses for their profit."
return to what? We've never left it! It's been this way for centuries now.
Osama is just one man - and a dead one at that. You make much more out of him and any who might admire him than is really there. He did not orchestrate 9/11. He was not capable of it.
9/11 was an inside job.
Sunday, October 15, 2006