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Blogger qrswave said...

BTW:
"The total national debt of The United States on a fully realized basis, inclusive of federal, state, county and local debt stood at a record $20.613 trillion (83.73% of said debt having been created from 1981-92 and from 2001 to present.) The total public and private indebtedness of the United States ended the year 2003 at $39.384 trillion. The total public and private assets of the United States ended the year 2003 at $26.134 trillion. Thus, the United States by the end of 2003 has a negative net worth of approximately $13 trillion. The total debt service of the United States ended the year 2003 at 309.4% of GDP (Gross Domestic Product). These are numbers never before seen. This is a higher debt to gross domestic product ratio than any other country on earth, which still services its debt."

These figures are from 2004!

Go to the link and read the comments - they're outstanding!

Sunday, October 15, 2006

Blogger brisa said...

I think a larger perspective may be helpful. The United States and, indeed, all industrialized societies face a fundamentally unsolvable problem. Our economic model, including fractional reserve banking, perpetual government debt, rising equities markets, etc., require unending economic growth to remain viable. It is my view that the US and indeed the world is bumping up against the carrying capacity of the planet, especially with regard to the growing demand/supply imbalance of fossil fuel energy sources.

Peak Oil, defined as when the production capacity of oil reaches its maximum is in sight. New oil projects coming on line have not kept pace with the rise in demand and depletion of existing fields for some time now. Production capacity is at about 85 million bbd. I will be interested to see is world oil production will keep pace with demand growth. If total average production in 2006 drops below that of 2005, then one must conclude that we are at the crest of the Peak Oil production bell curve.

What I am saying is that once this reality becomes widely accepted, all world fiat currencies will devalue relative to commodities and massive economic contraction is guarantied. So, the game becomes for the government to borrow or print as much currency as they need without concern for paying it back. The dollar is doomed.

There will be no return to a "pre-911" world. The leaders of the US have decided that military control over energy transit choke points and resource rich areas of the globe will continue under the guise of "The War On Terror". This is how they are planning to deal with resource depletion; to forestall the inevitable economic collapse for as long as possible.

It's not a question of if, but when. Perpetual economic growth that is dependent upon finding ever increasing amounts of cheap energy (oil) is simply not possible. It matters not how many billions of barrels of oil in the form of tar sands, heavy crude and deep water conventional oil are in the ground. It is the slow rate of extraction and processing that leaves these alternatives inadequate to avert the meltdown.

More information is available at the following link: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8677389869548020370&q=smoke%20oil%20and%20mirrors

Sunday, October 15, 2006

Blogger quasimodo said...

This is a debt which can only be paid in the currency of blood.

Sunday, October 15, 2006

Blogger Abu Zainab said...

A very interesting post. The data just reinforces the fact that this is a unsustainable economic system and the collapse is inevitable. With regards to the moneylenders, I have read enough. I know it's not much but I'm going to pull my $$$ out of the bank and also going to advise my family and friends to do likewise. It's a small step but a necessary one.

Sunday, October 15, 2006

Blogger qrswave said...

actually, it's an illegitimate debt.

This is what a reader at Ming the Mechanic had to say about the post I quoted, above in a comment:

"14 Jan 2004 @ 11:04 by sharie : $ paid to the Rich, billed to the poor
To refer to this as *U.S. debt* is a lie.

This *debt* is money *owed* to the rich because of the way the *rich* manipulate the media, the politicians, and the mass population.

$500 billion a year to weapons companies, for example, for what?

What country is a threat to us?

Who is a threat to us?

The weapons makers!

They're the threat.

The military and CIA is there to protect us?

Obviously not.

So why pay them?

Their perspective on the *debt* needs to be adjusted.

The U.S. people don't *owe* the rich *any* money.

Those who've swindled, and embezzled, and funnelled the money, distorted evidence and lied to the press in order to manipulate the federal budget funding... they owe *us* the money they embezzled and swindled.

Come on, Ming, don't look at it from *their* perspective.

*THEY* owe *US* ...

$20 trillion.

Divide $20 trillion by the 100 million U.S. adults (ballpark figure) and we might expect a refund of ...

let's see where's my calculator ...

20,000,000,000,000 divided by 100,000,000...

= 20,000,000

$20 billion to each of us.

Sounds about right."


The math may be a little off, but in principle, I couldn't agree more.

Abu Zainab, said: "I'm going to pull my $$$ out of the bank and also going to advise my family and friends to do likewise. "

Absolutely! You should only have enough money in the bank to handle your most essential checking affairs. If you have extra cash - lend it to your family and friends interest free - cut out the usurer!

Monday, October 16, 2006

Blogger Unknown said...

An excellent article on the theme
of the global casino and "simulated
money" --
http://from-the-catacombs.blogspot.com/2006/10/this-weeks-must-read-article.html

Caryl

Monday, October 16, 2006

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Thursday, January 04, 2007

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