The "fun" part is, that these men will eventually come home, and the Army is already suffering from high number of psychological disorders. I wouldn't want to be a family member of one of those...
Tuesday, July 11, 2006
Anonymous said...
This doesn't just go back decades. It's part of American "culture." Check out the book "Blood Meridian," by Cormac McCarthy. It's a novel, not a documentary. The book is truly horrifying in a way that's entirely un-fun, giving a realistic, close-up look into the mindset that creates ear-necklaces, baby-slicing, etc.
Tuesday, July 11, 2006
Anonymous said...
You states that correctly sir, your blood and that of your loved ones will satisfy the debt the Americans have incurred for their atrocities. Dick Cheney hasn't got enough blood and as you said, his money is phoney...so they will come to the common people...but will they be so wrong?
Tuesday, July 11, 2006
Anonymous said...
and we the people have been following their lead by cutting the heads off Babies in our "homeland" abortuaries constantly. we are a satanic nation without question.
Tuesday, July 11, 2006
Anonymous said...
A long history of this.
In 1943 Life magazine published the picture of a U.S. sailor's girlfriend contemplating a Japanese skull sent to her as a gift - with a note written on the top of the skull. Referring to this practice, Edward L. Jones, a U.S. war correspondent in the Pacific wrote in the February 1946 Atlantic Magazine, "We boiled the flesh off enemy skulls to make table ornaments for sweethearts, or carved their bones into letter-openers." http://loper.org/~george/trends/2002/Mar/65.html
So it was with some interest that I learned, upon attending Jan Burke's and Paul Sledzik's talk on "Revealing the Evidence: Forensics in Fiction" (at the 2002 Virginia Festival of the Book), that the term "trophy skulls" also refers to souvenirs of human skulls collected by soldiers in various wars. And that forensic scientists must sometimes determine whether a human skull is, in fact, a trophy skull when called upon to assist with a murder investigation. http://loper.org/~george/trends/2002/Mar/65.html
American Culture . . . America is the youngest power, like an uneducated teenager in full juice with small brains, like the teenager who tries to teach his daddy to make babies and has no regard for established values, only tries to impose his/her own values on others.
Here an exerpt from Charles Lindbergh's War Diaries:
Saturday, July 22, 1944 Japanese Cabinet resigns.
Stood out on the cliff at 9:00 to watch the heavies strike the Jap positions. The B-24's—eight planes in all—hit on the minute; first two bombers, then two more flights of three ships each—spread at sufficient intervals to allow the smoke from one flight to drift aside before the next was in position to release its bombs. Since there was no enemy antiaircraft opposition, the bombers came over at the ideal altitude of about 6,000 feet. The bombs were perfectly placed, covering the entire length of the ridge. I could see them released with my naked eye—specks curving gracefully through the air—irretrievable death in flight. Then the flashing concussion waves as they hit, and the great column of smoke shooting skyward. In six minutes it was all over, the smoke drifting slowly away to show the torn trees and battered coral ridge. Then the ground artillery began its bombardment, covering the ridge with smaller puffs. This afternoon, our infantry will attack.
A report came in on the area bombed this morning. The infantry moved in following the artillery bombardment after the bombing. They occupied the area "without firing a shot"—found about forty dead Japs in one cave and "parts of quite a few more" scattered about. The few who were living were sitting and lying around in a dazed condition and made no move as they saw our soldiers. One prisoner was taken, according to the first report; but an infantry colonel told me later that no prisoners were taken at all. "Our boys just don't take prisoners."
Where had I seen starvation like that before? It was on Biak Island, too. ...the Japanese prisoners ...so starved that they could not stand to walk, thinner even than this pole. Oh, we had not starved them in a prison camp like the Germans. We had been too "civilized," too clever for that. We had let them starve themselves in the jungle (their own fault) by simply not accepting their surrender. ... It was only necessary to shoot a few men advancing to surrender with their hands in the air. ("You can't trust a Jap to surrender. He'll throw a grenade at you. The only way is to kill him right now.") Or one could be more blunt about it and shout to an enemy emissary, as our infantry officers boasted of doing at the west caves, "Get back in there and fight it out, you sons of bitches."
A long line of such incidents parades before my mind: the story of our Marines firing on unarmed Japanese survivors who swam ashore on the beach at Midway; the accounts of our machine-gunning prisoners on a Hollandia airstrip; of the Australians pushing captured Japanese soldiers out of the transport planes which were taking them south over the New Guinea mountains ("the Aussies reported them as committing hara-kiri or 'resisting'"); of the shinbones cut, for letter openers and pen trays, from newly killed Japanese bodies on Noemfoor; of the young pilot who was "going to cream that Jap hospital one of these days"; of American soldiers poking through the mouths of Japanese corpses for gold-filled teeth ("the infantry's favorite occupation"); of Jap heads buried in ant-hills "to get them clean for souvenirs"; of bodies bulldozed to the road-side and dumped by the hundreds into shallow, unmarked graves ...to the approval of thousands of Americans who claim to stand for high, civilized ideals. As far back as one can go in history, these atrocities have been going on, not only in Germany with its Dachaus and its Buchenwalds and its Camp Doras, but in Russia, in the Pacific, in the riotings and lynchings at home, in the less-publicized uprisings in Central and South America, the cruelties of China, a few years ago in Spain, in pogroms of the past, the burning of witches in New England, tearing people apart on the English racks, burnings at the stake for the benefit of »Christ and God«."
Charles A. Lindbergh’s Wartime Journals
The world famous Lindbergh was critical of the Zionist influence on American attitudes and gave voice to his believes. In consequence his son was kidnapped and the crime got never resolved . . .
What was unknown to him was the fact that the much publicized 'German atrocities' were manufactured in England and America to brainwash decent people into accepting the purging of Germans, tall tales with no foundation in real history. The Germans, with their diligence and industry were a menace to the aspirations of both the British Empire (that was on its decent) and the American intentions for dominance of the world (that were in the growing state - the first signs of this were the illegal annectation of Hawaii and the famous 'Spanish War' that brought American forces to the Philippines).
‘In 1898, Joseph Pulitzer's New York World and William Randolph Hearst's New York Journal were arguing for American intervention in Cuba. Hearst is reported to have dispatched a photographer to Cuba to photograph the coming war with Spain. When the photographer asked just what war that might be, Hearst is reported to have replied, "You take the photographs, and I will provide the war". Hearst was true to his word, as his newspaper published stories of great atrocities being committed against the Cuban people, most of which turned out to be complete fabrications. On the night of February 15, 1898, the USS Maine, lying in Havana harbor in a show of US resolve to protect her interests, exploded violently. Captain Sigsbee, the commander of the Maine, urged that no assumptions of enemy attack be made until there was a full investigation of the cause of the explosion. For this, Captain Sigsbee was excoriated in the press for "refusing to see the obvious". The Atlantic Monthly declared flat out that to suppose the explosion to be anything other than a deliberate act by Spain was "completely at defiance of the laws of probability". … In 1975, an investigation led by Admiral Hyman Rickover examined the data recovered from a 1911 examination of the wreck and concluded that there had been no evidence of an external explosion. The most likely cause of the sinking was a coal dust explosion in a coal bunker imprudently located next to the ship's magazines. Captain Sigsbee's caution had been well founded.
"As in the Vietnam War, the American public was aware of how its government behaved in the Philippines. For one thing, the U.S. Senate investigated the war, much as did Senator Fulbright in 1967 and 1968. The following are some samples, bits of information made pub¬lic at the time:
Senator Rawlins: If these shacks were of no consequence, what was the utility of their destruction? General Robert P. Hughes [Commander of Vasayas from June 3, 1899, to November 30, 1901]: The destruction was a punishment. They permitted these people to come in there and conceal themselves and they gave no sign. It is always - Senator Rawlins: The punishment in that case would fall, not upon the men, who could go elsewhere, but mainly upon the women and little children. General Hughes: The women and children are part of the family, and where you wish to inflict a punishment you can punish the man probably worse in that way than in any other. Senator Rawlins: But is that within the ordinary rules of civilized warfare? Of course you could exterminate the family, which would be still worse punishment. General Hughes: These people are not civilized." (pp. 110-112 Wasserman / America Born and Reborn / The questions from: John Gerassi / The Coming of the New International p. 8/9 / The World Publishing Co., New York and Cleveland.)
Americans in leadership have for a long time told the whole world what 'civilization' and 'democracy' is all about. We see the result of this now in Iraq, with rapes and killings that only much later get 'reported.' Where ancient monuments once stood in Iraq are now army encampments and the museums got robbed.
Humankind has been fooled throughout the last century with repeated propaganda as revisionist historians have proven beyond doubt - for which many of them now sit in jails. A study of revisionist history is very important if we want to understand what is going on today.
These are simple Dragonsecrets . . .
Every one of us has the responsibility to be part of the solution instead of giving silent approval that prolongs the existing problem.
Realize that first, I don’t condone or explain away the actions of those soldiers in Vietnam, or those currently in Iraq and Afghanistan.
But, let us put some things into perspective: The atrocities you’ve written about are the exception, not the rule. American forces are not true occupiers, as the US has no need for more land, or subjected peoples. Therefore, the large scale atrocities that have been committed in the past by ever European nation, every Mid-East nation, every far-east nation, and everyone else I’ve not mentioned, are not really an intricate part of current American society, and by-in-large are considered unacceptable to the citizens of this nation.
Second, I’ll note that the “Anonymous” posted tried to like my blood (and other Americans) to part of a “price” that must be paid for these atrocities. I reject not only that notion, but the implication in it that where ever you’re from, you’re blood is clean of any debt itself. I reject the world’s notion that the United States is some how more complicit or responsible for death, misery, and destruction in this world than any other nation (current or former world power).
Lastly, I’ll note on the comment by dragonsecrets:
America is a young nation, but it was drawn up and of peoples from old nations. Nations, unlike people, don’t act upon ONLY their experience, so the metaphor is really not very realistic. Aside from that, the old nations have done a much worse job in the world than the United States could ever hope to do.
In the last 100 years (half the time America has been around), they’ve caused two depressions, two global wars, countless destruction and death, disease, plagues, brutal slavery trades, oppressive occupations and colonization for sake of Empire building, and in general, screwed up the world more than anyone can ever count.
And these are the “parents” you suggest we listen to? These are the ones we should be taking advice from? If they could keep themselves out of a war of their own making for more than 50 years… maybe you’d have a point. But sadly, they are just as screwed up as America.. only they’ve lost the geopolitical clout that the United States enjoys.
Remember that the United States has made many mistakes in its short history, but she is still something to be proud of. There is still a reason that the world regards her as the beacon of liberty and freedom. There is a reason that people from around the globe still flock here to escape oppression and tyranny. And it’s not because we’ve got great pizza joints.
"Therefore, the large scale atrocities that have been committed in the past by ever European nation, every Mid-East nation, every far-east nation, and everyone else I’ve not mentioned, are not really an intricate part of current American society, and by-in-large are considered unacceptable to the citizens of this nation."
What's your point? That because our government is not alone in our its grisly conduct, it's OKAY?
"Second, I’ll note that the “Anonymous” posted tried to like my blood (and other Americans) to part of a “price” that must be paid for these atrocities. I reject not only that notion, but the implication in it that where ever you’re from, you’re blood is clean of any debt itself."
You can reject it all you want, it's already happened and is happening as we speak. Tens of thousands of American lives have already been shattered by the 'attacks' of 9/11 and by casualties from our feckless foreign escapades.
"In the last 100 years (half the time America has been around), they’ve caused two depressions, two global wars, countless destruction and death, disease, plagues, brutal slavery trades, oppressive occupations and colonization for sake of Empire building, and in general, screwed up the world more than anyone can ever count."
You must be referring to International Bankers. And they are just as screwed up as America because they contol America.
"There is still a reason that the world regards her as the beacon of liberty and freedom."
You've got to be kidding. I'd like to believe otherwise. But, the fact is that America, the beautiful is perhaps the most hated nation on earth today. Indeed, it's no longer a na-tion. It's a Corpor-ation.
I'll give you a hint: You don't want to know. Operating largely on their own and only passingly accountable to a chain of command that rarely ventured into the jungles and paddies, these soldiers ruthlessly murdered hundreds of unarmed men, women and children. One soldier cut off a baby's head with a knife. Victims' ears were regularly sliced off, collected and fashioned into necklaces which some soldiers proudly wore. Other victims were scalped. Some were tortured. Teeth were kicked out to retrieve the gold from fillings.Still can't figure out who did it?Virtually all of the civilian deaths were reported as "Viet Cong," even though, oddly, no weapons were ever found and none were ever reported. No officer in command ever questioned this glaring disparity.That's right - US soldiers. Now, guess who hid it? That part of Tiger Force is grim enough. What the Army then did with the evidence is shocking, and what was covered up in 1974-75 may have sowed the headlines we are reaping in 2006. One of the most thorough Criminal Investigation Division (CID, the Army's internal FBI) investigations ever conducted, meticulously gathered the facts surrounding the war crimes committed by Tiger Force. The evidence was voluminous, certain and had been obtained at the risk of a few investigators' lives.
In 1974-75, Richard Cheney was a special assistant to President Ford. Ford's chief of staff was Donald Rumsfeld. The secretary of defense from 1973-75 was James Schlesinger.
The case was made to disappear by these men who served presidents Nixon and Ford - probably out of considerations of politics. There were never any charges filed against the soldiers or the officers who ordered and participated in the routine killing of civilians.The usual suspects are decades deep in their satanic deeds. No doubt, they hid it because they could. The only reason the case file ever became public was that the CID officer who directed the investigation, and who later commanded the Criminal Investigation Division, kept a copy of the investigation file, and prior to his death in 2002 made provision for the file to be delivered to a reporter with the Toledo Blade.
Thirty years later, Mr. Rumsfeld refuses to discuss the Tiger Force case. Mr. Cheney declines to discuss much of anything. Mr. Schlesinger conducted one of the see-no-evil investigations at Abu Ghraib. The senior leadership of the Army and the nation prefers to characterize war crimes as the work of a few "bad apples." My Lai was pinned to Lt. William Calley, who suited the bad apple role.
Tiger Force was far larger, killed three times as many people, but involved too many "bad apples" and too much gore to maintain the right story line.
The common thread which runs from Tiger Force through My Lai, to Guantanamo, Bagram and Abu Ghraib, to a hundred episodes of sadistic brutality inflicted by U.S. soldiers in Iraq, is the remarkable fact that the official responsibility for all these tragedies never runs higher than the lowest-level trigger-pullers or body-stackers. No surprise there. Why do your own dirty work WHEN YOU CAN PAY SOMEONE DIRTY MONEY TO DO IT and then blame them when they're caught redhanded.
Cheney and Rumsfeld are pulling the same sh*t in Iraq today.
If we don't do something - FAST - to get these war criminals out of office and our military out of other countries, inevitably, someone will make us pay a VERY HIGH PRICE for their unspeakable crimes - and their phony currency won't satisfy the debt - only our blood will.
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Close this window Jump to comment formThe "fun" part is, that these men will eventually come home, and the Army is already suffering from high number of psychological disorders. I wouldn't want to be a family member of one of those...
Tuesday, July 11, 2006
This doesn't just go back decades. It's part of American "culture." Check out the book "Blood Meridian," by Cormac McCarthy. It's a novel, not a documentary. The book is truly horrifying in a way that's entirely un-fun, giving a realistic, close-up look into the mindset that creates ear-necklaces, baby-slicing, etc.
Tuesday, July 11, 2006
You states that correctly sir, your blood and that of your loved ones will satisfy the debt the Americans have incurred for their atrocities. Dick Cheney hasn't got enough blood and as you said, his money is phoney...so they will come to the common people...but will they be so wrong?
Tuesday, July 11, 2006
and we the people have been following their lead by cutting the heads off Babies in our "homeland" abortuaries constantly. we are a satanic nation without question.
Tuesday, July 11, 2006
A long history of this.
In 1943 Life magazine published the picture of a U.S. sailor's girlfriend contemplating a Japanese skull sent to her as a gift - with a note written on the top of the skull. Referring to this practice, Edward L. Jones, a U.S. war correspondent in the Pacific wrote in the February 1946 Atlantic Magazine, "We boiled the flesh off enemy skulls to make table ornaments for sweethearts, or carved their bones into letter-openers." http://loper.org/~george/trends/2002/Mar/65.html
So it was with some interest that I learned, upon attending Jan Burke's and Paul Sledzik's talk on "Revealing the Evidence: Forensics in Fiction" (at the 2002 Virginia Festival of the Book), that the term "trophy skulls" also refers to souvenirs of human skulls collected by soldiers in various wars. And that forensic scientists must sometimes determine whether a human skull is, in fact, a trophy skull when called upon to assist with a murder investigation. http://loper.org/~george/trends/2002/Mar/65.html
Tuesday, July 11, 2006
Anon, Tue Jul 11, 08:01:19 PM EDT,
"We boiled the flesh off enemy skulls to make table ornaments for sweethearts, or carved their bones into letter-openers."
OMG.
Tuesday, July 11, 2006
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Wednesday, July 12, 2006
American Culture . . .
America is the youngest power, like an uneducated teenager in full juice with small brains, like the teenager who tries to teach his daddy to make babies and has no regard for established values, only tries to impose his/her own values on others.
Here an exerpt from Charles Lindbergh's War Diaries:
Saturday, July 22, 1944
Japanese Cabinet resigns.
Stood out on the cliff at 9:00 to watch the heavies strike the Jap positions. The B-24's—eight planes in all—hit on the minute; first two bombers, then two more flights of three ships each—spread at sufficient intervals to allow the smoke from one flight to drift aside before the next was in position to release its bombs. Since there was no enemy antiaircraft opposition, the bombers came over at the ideal altitude of about 6,000 feet. The bombs were perfectly placed, covering the entire length of the ridge. I could see them released with my naked eye—specks curving gracefully through the air—irretrievable death in flight. Then the flashing concussion waves as they hit, and the great column of smoke shooting skyward. In six minutes it was all over, the smoke drifting slowly away to show the torn trees and battered coral ridge. Then the ground artillery began its bombardment, covering the ridge with smaller puffs. This afternoon, our infantry will attack.
A report came in on the area bombed this morning. The infantry moved in following the artillery bombardment after the bombing. They occupied the area "without firing a shot"—found about forty dead Japs in one cave and "parts of quite a few more" scattered about. The few who were living were sitting and lying around in a dazed condition and made no move as they saw our soldiers. One prisoner was taken, according to the first report; but an infantry colonel told me later that no prisoners were taken at all. "Our boys just don't take prisoners."
Where had I seen starvation like that before? It was on Biak Island, too. ...the Japanese prisoners ...so starved that they could not stand to walk, thinner even than this pole. Oh, we had not starved them in a prison camp like the Germans. We had been too "civilized," too clever for that. We had let them starve themselves in the jungle (their own fault) by simply not accepting their surrender. ... It was only necessary to shoot a few men advancing to surrender with their hands in the air. ("You can't trust a Jap to surrender. He'll throw a grenade at you. The only way is to kill him right now.") Or one could be more blunt about it and shout to an enemy emissary, as our infantry officers boasted of doing at the west caves, "Get back in there and fight it out, you sons of bitches."
A long line of such incidents parades before my mind: the story of our Marines firing on unarmed Japanese survivors who swam ashore on the beach at Midway; the accounts of our machine-gunning prisoners on a Hollandia airstrip; of the Australians pushing captured Japanese soldiers out of the transport planes which were taking them south over the New Guinea mountains ("the Aussies reported them as committing hara-kiri or 'resisting'"); of the shinbones cut, for letter openers and pen trays, from newly killed Japanese bodies on Noemfoor; of the young pilot who was "going to cream that Jap hospital one of these days"; of American soldiers poking through the mouths of Japanese corpses for gold-filled teeth ("the infantry's favorite occupation"); of Jap heads buried in ant-hills "to get them clean for souvenirs"; of bodies bulldozed to the road-side and dumped by the hundreds into shallow, unmarked graves ...to the approval of thousands of Americans who claim to stand for high, civilized ideals.
As far back as one can go in history, these atrocities have been going on, not only in Germany with its Dachaus and its Buchenwalds and its Camp Doras, but in Russia, in the Pacific, in the riotings and lynchings at home, in the less-publicized uprisings in Central and South America, the cruelties of China, a few years ago in Spain, in pogroms of the past, the burning of witches in New England, tearing people apart on the English racks, burnings at the stake for the benefit of »Christ and God«."
Charles A. Lindbergh’s Wartime Journals
The world famous Lindbergh was critical of the Zionist influence on American attitudes and gave voice to his believes. In consequence his son was kidnapped and the crime got never resolved . . .
What was unknown to him was the fact that the much publicized 'German atrocities' were manufactured in England and America to brainwash decent people into accepting the purging of Germans, tall tales with no foundation in real history. The Germans, with their diligence and industry were a menace to the aspirations of both the British Empire (that was on its decent) and the American intentions for dominance of the world (that were in the growing state - the first signs of this were the illegal annectation of Hawaii and the famous 'Spanish War' that brought American forces to the Philippines).
‘In 1898, Joseph Pulitzer's New York World and William Randolph Hearst's New York Journal were arguing for American intervention in Cuba. Hearst is reported to have dispatched a photographer to Cuba to photograph the coming war with Spain. When the photographer asked just what war that might be, Hearst is reported to have replied, "You take the photographs, and I will provide the war". Hearst was true to his word, as his newspaper published stories of great atrocities being committed against the Cuban people, most of which turned out to be complete fabrications.
On the night of February 15, 1898, the USS Maine, lying in Havana harbor in a show of US resolve to protect her interests, exploded violently. Captain Sigsbee, the commander of the Maine, urged that no assumptions of enemy attack be made until there was a full investigation of the cause of the explosion. For this, Captain Sigsbee was excoriated in the press for "refusing to see the obvious". The Atlantic Monthly declared flat out that to suppose the explosion to be anything other than a deliberate act by Spain was "completely at defiance of the laws of probability". …
In 1975, an investigation led by Admiral Hyman Rickover examined the data recovered from a 1911 examination of the wreck and concluded that there had been no evidence of an external explosion. The most likely cause of the sinking was a coal dust explosion in a coal bunker imprudently located next to the ship's magazines. Captain Sigsbee's caution had been well founded.
"As in the Vietnam War, the American public was aware of how its government behaved in the Philippines. For one thing, the U.S. Senate investigated the war, much as did Senator Fulbright in 1967 and 1968. The following are some samples, bits of information made pub¬lic at the time:
Senator Rawlins: If these shacks were of no consequence, what was the utility of their destruction?
General Robert P. Hughes [Commander of Vasayas from June 3, 1899, to November 30, 1901]: The destruction was a punishment. They permitted these people to come in there and conceal themselves and they gave no sign. It is always -
Senator Rawlins: The punishment in that case would fall, not upon the men, who could go elsewhere, but mainly upon the women and little children.
General Hughes: The women and children are part of the family, and where you wish to inflict a punishment you can punish the man probably worse in that way than in any other.
Senator Rawlins: But is that within the ordinary rules of civilized warfare? Of course you could exterminate the family, which would be still worse punishment.
General Hughes: These people are not civilized."
(pp. 110-112 Wasserman / America Born and Reborn / The questions from: John Gerassi / The Coming of the New International p. 8/9 / The World Publishing Co., New York and Cleveland.)
Americans in leadership have for a long time told the whole world what 'civilization' and 'democracy' is all about.
We see the result of this now in Iraq, with rapes and killings that only much later get 'reported.' Where ancient monuments once stood in Iraq are now army encampments and the museums got robbed.
Humankind has been fooled throughout the last century with repeated propaganda as revisionist historians have proven beyond doubt - for which many of them now sit in jails. A study of revisionist history is very important if we want to understand what is going on today.
These are simple Dragonsecrets . . .
Every one of us has the responsibility to be part of the solution instead of giving silent approval that prolongs the existing problem.
Wednesday, July 12, 2006
thanks, dragonsecrets, for your very informative and thoughtful comment.
I agree that we each have a responsibility to seek the truth and speak out when we find it.
thanks for taking time to share your knowledge.
Wednesday, July 12, 2006
I’d like to toss in my two cents here:
Realize that first, I don’t condone or explain away the actions of those soldiers in Vietnam, or those currently in Iraq and Afghanistan.
But, let us put some things into perspective: The atrocities you’ve written about are the exception, not the rule. American forces are not true occupiers, as the US has no need for more land, or subjected peoples. Therefore, the large scale atrocities that have been committed in the past by ever European nation, every Mid-East nation, every far-east nation, and everyone else I’ve not mentioned, are not really an intricate part of current American society, and by-in-large are considered unacceptable to the citizens of this nation.
Second, I’ll note that the “Anonymous” posted tried to like my blood (and other Americans) to part of a “price” that must be paid for these atrocities. I reject not only that notion, but the implication in it that where ever you’re from, you’re blood is clean of any debt itself. I reject the world’s notion that the United States is some how more complicit or responsible for death, misery, and destruction in this world than any other nation (current or former world power).
Lastly, I’ll note on the comment by dragonsecrets:
America is a young nation, but it was drawn up and of peoples from old nations. Nations, unlike people, don’t act upon ONLY their experience, so the metaphor is really not very realistic. Aside from that, the old nations have done a much worse job in the world than the United States could ever hope to do.
In the last 100 years (half the time America has been around), they’ve caused two depressions, two global wars, countless destruction and death, disease, plagues, brutal slavery trades, oppressive occupations and colonization for sake of Empire building, and in general, screwed up the world more than anyone can ever count.
And these are the “parents” you suggest we listen to? These are the ones we should be taking advice from? If they could keep themselves out of a war of their own making for more than 50 years… maybe you’d have a point. But sadly, they are just as screwed up as America.. only they’ve lost the geopolitical clout that the United States enjoys.
Remember that the United States has made many mistakes in its short history, but she is still something to be proud of. There is still a reason that the world regards her as the beacon of liberty and freedom. There is a reason that people from around the globe still flock here to escape oppression and tyranny. And it’s not because we’ve got great pizza joints.
Wednesday, July 12, 2006
Thanks for the comment, g
"Therefore, the large scale atrocities that have been committed in the past by ever European nation, every Mid-East nation, every far-east nation, and everyone else I’ve not mentioned, are not really an intricate part of current American society, and by-in-large are considered unacceptable to the citizens of this nation."
What's your point? That because our government is not alone in our its grisly conduct, it's OKAY?
"Second, I’ll note that the “Anonymous” posted tried to like my blood (and other Americans) to part of a “price” that must be paid for these atrocities. I reject not only that notion, but the implication in it that where ever you’re from, you’re blood is clean of any debt itself."
You can reject it all you want, it's already happened and is happening as we speak. Tens of thousands of American lives have already been shattered by the 'attacks' of 9/11 and by casualties from our feckless foreign escapades.
"In the last 100 years (half the time America has been around), they’ve caused two depressions, two global wars, countless destruction and death, disease, plagues, brutal slavery trades, oppressive occupations and colonization for sake of Empire building, and in general, screwed up the world more than anyone can ever count."
You must be referring to International Bankers. And they are just as screwed up as America because they contol America.
"There is still a reason that the world regards her as the beacon of liberty and freedom."
You've got to be kidding. I'd like to believe otherwise. But, the fact is that America, the beautiful is perhaps the most hated nation on earth today. Indeed, it's no longer a na-tion. It's a Corpor-ation.
Wednesday, July 12, 2006
Well they are still cutting heads and doing one better. And also wasn't Powell also involved in the My-Lai coverup?
Wednesday, July 12, 2006
One soldier cut off a baby's head with a knife. ... babycutleryset.blogspot.com
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