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Blogger Red Tulips said...

This article actually was more balanced - stating that Israeli people and Jews as a whole do not want war.

I say that, however, this article still is slanted and biased.

It still has much further to go, in that you speak in editorials about how Israel simply punishes Palestinians with impugnity - simply not true.

Furthermore, I would argue that Bush is acting tough as a way to get the president of Iran to back down. I do not think he necessarily has plans to invade. And if he does invade, it is not for Israel, but it is convenient of him to blame Israel. This way the oil companies, Evangelicals, and Halliburton are off the hook. You jump to various conclusions without enough evidence to support them, because you are LOOKING for those conclusions.

Finally, the question of Iran using nukes is one which IS a real concern. Limiting the spread of nuclear weapons generally is a good idea. I do not trust humans with these weapons - that is the bottom line. The president of Iran has stated he wants Israel to be destroyed. That is a fact. It certainly is not a safe world to have a man like that able to wield a nuke.

Wednesday, April 26, 2006

Blogger Albion Moonlight said...

Finally, the question of Iran using nukes is one which IS a real concern.

Unlike Israeli expansionism and violence against Palestinians. Those aren't real concerns, just bogeymen created by paranoid minds, right?

Gimme a break Miss R. Open your eyes.

But back on point - Bush and Ahmadinijad are both talking tough to shore up control over their societies. Whether either is likely to use nukes seems dependent on whether their people will slink so far into fearful paranioa to allow them to get away with it.

One thing is for sure, one of these two leaders has nuclear warheads at his disposal, and one does not. At least not yet.

Wednesday, April 26, 2006

Blogger Red Tulips said...

Albion,

I never said Israel has not crossed lines it should not re: Palestinians. But that is seperate and distinct from whether it has acted with impugnity. In fact, Israel does have high standards in a state of war with Palestinians. I would say that, for a nation at war, they treat the Palestinians better than any other nation in a similar situation would.

Re: Bush and Ahmedinajad. I agree with your analysis there.

Wednesday, April 26, 2006

Blogger Christopher King said...

Thanks for covering this issue. I've got to make more time to get out from under my indictment to read this. There is a whole lot going on that threatens life as we know it, but that we never will hear about anywhere else but right here.

And as we know, Congress is about to f*ck with that:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2006/04/save-internet-from-congress-and-major.html

Here's to us true Fourth Estate Practitioners:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2006/04/revolution-will-be-televised.html

Wednesday, April 26, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would Iran use nukes? Their stated problem with Israel is that they are occupying "Islamic land" and oppressing Islamic people. You can disagree with the Iranian asessment if you want, but I have seen zero evidence that Ahmadinejad (or anyone else in the Iranian Government) is so out of touch with reality that he's going to nuke a country to liberate it. Oh, and the fact that Israel already has nukes, including second-strike capable submarine missile carriers, whereas Iran is, by any reasonable published estimate, -years- from having nuclear weapons, is just irrelevant. Nuke 'em now! Otherwise, they might nuke someone later!

I applaud qrswave's attempt to cover the politics of why people are actually worried about Iran. I would like to point out, though, that there is a complicated political situation in which it could be against multiple actors' interests for Iran to get a bigger piece of the pie. With the Supreme Council of the Islamic Revolution holding so much power in Iraq, the balance of power is already shifting. This could make the more secular rulers of some of the other Islamic nations nervous, not to mention Bush on his own account; if Iran gets more and more control of the region, there will be more and more political/economic pressure on the States to deal with Iran in one way or another.

There are certainly some in the US who would cut Israel loose if it became in their interest. Too bad there isn't an alliance between Israel and the US, huh?

Thursday, April 27, 2006

Blogger Erosoplier said...

Maybe all Iran wants is to exercise its soveriegn right to sell the oil under its soil on the open market. And to build some nukular power stations so it can sell more oil to others rather than consume it themselves. Maybe.
What is almost certain is that certain Anglo-American interests won't be satisfied until they find themselves in the fortunate situation of being the ones who are helping pump most of Iran's oil.
miss R, there is a case to be made that Ahmadinejad's words are being twisted: http://www.arbeiterfotografie.com/galerie/kein-krieg/hintergrund/index-iran-0013.html

Friday, April 28, 2006

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