THE EXIGENCIES OF REVOLUTION (by Apollonian, 2 Feb 06)
Okay yes, alright--I'll do it, I'll agree that u have something of a point in all ur observations, much as it may be hard to admit. Thus we plot REVOLUTION. This revolution then is most serious business as the oligarchs pre-emptively accuse us of TREASON.
But do u know what u're asking?--u're asking people to give up an intimate ADDICTION, that to MAMMON. U want to give up Mammon itself? Have u ever heard of "Alcoholics Anonymous"?--those people desperately try to get rid of addiction to a relatively simple thing, alcohol, and most of them don't/can't do it. Rather, they just end up trying to "manage"--so must we.
But u do have a point--how do u "manage" tyranny? Hmmmm, truly a tough nut to crack, even to approach in scientific manner--But maybe not. Hence, if not, then how would that be?--science and logic?--HISTORY?
Hence we see history acts in cycles according to Spengler, and even a little bit, Hegel, who features antitheses. But also don't forget that dear Greek, Anaximander.
THESIS: I submit u have to have a REVOLUTION, and it will have to emulate the dramatic times of Roman Empire and the Crisis solved to best of his ability, the Emperor Constantine-the-Great of early 4th century when the Romans almost seemed to revive from a steady decline (or "losing streak"), like through practically all of the entire 3rd century.
The problem then was much as now: MONEYLENDERS DRAINING THE CIVILIZATION (yes, like "VAMPIRES") LOOTING AND EXPLOITING To the DEATH and sickness of the sociologic organism, the remnant of Western Culture.
And the (internal) enemy was the same as now: The Jews and their "Sadducean" allies, along with other players, corrupt lawyers, et al., "scribes," and the corrupted elders, same as today, sucking the "profits" of empire, PRACTICING HERESY, that of "moralism" and the contradictory, totally false "religion," "Judeo-Christianity."
Note that part of our present problem with TYRANNY is the corrupted elders seem to think it's necessary for them to continue to profit. Elders are addicted to MAMMONIST EMPIRE.
Of course, there was another cultural and unitary entity to the east of the Romans, the Persians (Sassanians) who practiced a sublime dualism, Zoroastrianism. And this same heretical fascination also raged in the Roman Empire in form of Christian Gnosticism and, initially, more widely, Mithraism, later Manichaeism.
Then there were the pagan Germans to the North of the Romans; that's yet another, later story.
But anyway the quick (historic) preliminary/hypothetic conclusion I want to present, following the observations given also in the blogger's ("Asking Vampires to Donate Blood") introduction is we'll need revolution of the sort of Constantine's as I describe.
And there of course is the obligatory tyrannical, reactionary, problem, the present oligarchs, analyzed in accord with strict, but simple, New Testament (NT) Conspiracy Theory-analytic-template.
For the problem of "moneylending" is it's necessary part of warfare, for like the buying of weapons, etc. People won't get wise to "moneylending" till there's REVOLUTION, and it will require an able LEADERSHIP.
For this new religion must demonstrate its success in the face of warfare. But Christianity has always featured individualism along with OBJECTIVITY over its antithesis from which it sprang and continues to OPPOSE (subjectivism and collectivism, above all).
Thus we see the living, healthy body of culture and civilization desperately fighting the disease of "hubris." It's like a herd of animals, formerly successful, fighting disease.
And the observation is there's still a few too many weaklings who are feeding the parasites, THE "VAMPIRES," the moneylenders, featuring a seductive, highly addictive, fallacious heresy, false religion, and ethic.
Thus we still have to WEATHER THE (cultural) STORM and simply wait for the turmoil to subside before real revolutionary conditions of success prevail and presents itself.
Thus the question of MANAGEMENT: how do we exert our human but not perfectly free wills consistent with our natures and the possible cultural upsurge and emergence FROM (Spenglerian) "DECLINE."
Hence in accord with a possible Constantinian-style revolution we do things in small, rationalist increments consistent with possible successful and virtuous revolution and liberation, like honest elections with paper trails, reversion of election of US Senators to state legislatures, etc.
And hence all these small points must be consistent with real CHRISTIANITY, as in Roman Empire--NOT THE PRESENT "Judeo-Christian" (JC) heresy, accompanied by neo-Pelagianism as of Kant and "German Transcendental Idealism" (GTI).
This most serious and conscientious Christian revolutionary change will inconvenience some people of imperialist persuasion, I'm afraid, but we'll just have to do it in order to save the patient.
The "greater good" may truly be difficult to calculate as it isn't same as collectivist "greatest good of greatest number." Thus we think of quality over mere quantity as perhaps most of the host victim body might be weaklings, susceptible to JC heresy. Thus we try our Christian best nonetheless.
Thus things will have to happen. Justice must occur. States will increase their powers and influence at expense of centralized tyrannical empire. Jews and their cohorts will complain. This complaining of Jews must be anticipated but accepted as part of the price to be paid. We have NO "MORAL" (esp. in form of "good-evil" style) OBLIGATIONS TO JEWS OR ALIENS OR ENEMIES; they must fall, subside, and recede. Thus we work for Christian survival at expense of anyone else--sorry, tough luck, but we gotta see to our individual interests, the collective an instrumental means to our cultural ends--again, at the expense of Judaism and "Sadduceanism" as it is necessary; it's either-or.
Military-political consideration requires expectation of Jews fighting actively against the host Christian population--thus the necessity of a leadership consistent with that of Constantine-the-Great (and the American founders, Christian racists).
And observe Jews have already acted pre-emptively on numerous occasions, as in form of "communists," like in 1917 Russia whence they saw to the "expenditure" of millions and millions, then millions more in Ukraine, then millions and millions more, especially Germanic, unfortunately and tragically, during WWII.
Today our cutural enemies, the oligarchal tyrants and Pharisaic-"Sadducean" conspirators perpetrated 9-11, rigging of fraudulent 2004 elections, and assassination of Iraq, among many other somewhat lesser things, like murder of Vicky and Sammy Weaver at Ruby Ridge, the OKC bombing, etc.
Again, I don't say these "communists" and Jews (as well as "Sadduceans") are "evil"; rather, they're just agents of cyclic reality, culling the herd of white people, killing the weaklings, thinning them out, again, it all taking place in natural CYCLIC fashion.
Hence I present my own theory of history, but actually just detailing and applying what and how I understand of Spengler, Hegel, and Anaximander, for foremost theoreticalistic examples.
Thus we see Bush, the frontman for the Jew-"Sadducean," et al., CONSPIRATORIAL-COMPLEX (matrix). And note the John Birch Society (see JBS.org) presents one vision for an aspect of this conspiracy/fraud, founded upon FRACTIONAL-RESERVE (as of the Federal Reserve Bank [Fed] counterfeiting racket), but entailing numerous other frauds, like holohoax, etc.
Thus MAMMON is difficult to fight, like addiction, like heresy, delusion, smugness, and hubris, these worse than any "drugs," even alcohol. Basically, we just wait for it to "burn itself out" like a forest fire--or a plague working its way through the population/herd. There's no "good-evil." We don't say the Jews are "evil."
Hence my final observation in sum is things are so tough and warlike as we see Bush prosecuting things in this present age: Orwellian "PERPETUAL WAR FOR PERPETUAL PEACE."
So again I submit whatever happens, we'll have to present a most militant, yet still rationalistic Christianity.
Thus we've got to be consistent with Inductive logic as we survey our situation, culturally, politically, rhetorically. Thus we practice a tough, consistent, militant, highly rationalistic Christianity whence our imperialist enemies, Pharisaic and "Sadducean," complain as they complained against St. Constantine the Great, who was such a magnificent ANTISEMITE.
And never forget Tyrants, fascists, and oppressors always complain of "Antisemitism" and suchlike lack of "morality."
Thus we must be sure our revolution is truly revolutionary: it must be ANTISEMITIC, but not forgetting or overlooking the "Sadducean" traitors, like Falwell, Robertson, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, et al., "Judeo-Christians," probably the scummiest, most brainlessly pathetic heretics who ever existed, traitors and fascists always making their excuses on pretext of "moralism." SUCH ARE THE PROBLEMS AND SNARES OF HERESY.
CONCLUSION: Thus our Constantinian Christian Revolution must be most thorough-going, militant, and deterministic, never succumbing to such moralistic PELAGIANIST heresy repudiated by such Saint as Augustine, featuring a rationalistic-deterministic Christianity in all its necessary MILITANT EFFECTIVENESS AND SUCCESS. Honest Elections and Death to the Fed.
Thanks for admitting that we can agree to disagree on some things (albeit very important things) while exchanging ideas on other things that we share in common, like our desire to abolish the Fed.
I am still not clear what your position is on interest, in general, outside the Fed. In case you haven't noticed, I am categorically against it.
Regarding your numerous historical references, I am sorry to say that I cannot respond intelligently, as I lack the necessary background. I've been a science major most of my life. I have only recently discovered the paramount importance of history.
That aside. We already know my position on Jews - and Christians, and Muslims. I am not convinced that any faith monopolizes evil anymore than I'm convinced that they monopolize good. But alas, that's not useful discussion. From comments that you made on the MLK post, I am not eager to rehash that issue.
So, let's get to the practical issue on how to abolish the corrupt Fed.
I'm not sure that I understand your "CYCLIC" theory (as opposed to good/evil). And, if there's no such thing as good/evil, then what do you call conduct that's not good?
Also, please elaborate on how you're going to convince people that it's a good idea to revert "election[s] of US Senators to state legislatures." (I'm not saying it's a bad idea.)
I do not agree that we should "just wait for it to 'burn itself out' like a forest fire." I consider myself actively taking part in a revolution of IDEAS, which is the first solid step in any lasting evolution of humanity.
I agree that collectivist good without considering individual welfare is a harmful approach to governance. But, I don't think that one group has to suffer (only because of race or other inconsequential features) for another to prevail.
BUT, of course, people (whatever their race or religion) who are bent on subjugating others, must suffer defeat so that cooperative people can live in peace. Clearly, you cannot co-operate with someone bent on subjugating you.
That's it for now.
Thursday, February 02, 2006
Anonymous said...
Nice quotes, Mr. Q. I have been studying science most of my life as well, and have only recently begun to understand monetary policay and history.
I have to agree it will take a revolution to improve our situation. And don't wait for anybody else to do it!
The only revolution possible to begin today is the personal revolution. Every last person in this country must take it upon themselves to change their lives and reduce consumption. Stop shopping! Stop burning gasoline! Start trading with your neighbors, and if you feel you don't have anything to trade, GROW something to trade.
Massive social change begins with US! It's not something where you can expect "somebody else" to do it. There is no half-steppin here.
I've also recently learned that interest has a long history, and that it was written in ancient Sumer what the "fee" for borrowing commodities would be. If you borrow two pieces of gold, and I want three back for being so nice to you, I would hope you are going to use those pieces of gold to purchase materials that would contribute to your own wealth (farm equipment, etc..) and you would be able to grow food to make that money back - and more.
That makes some sense to me. Printing phantom currency to cover debt and interest doesn't.
Love that American Revolution talk!
Friday, February 03, 2006
Anonymous said...
Well hello qrswave; finally u start to talk some serious "turkey"--a genuine "dialectic" now can get going--what we need most. And note how easy it really is in all Christian honesty; believe it or not, it's always my main strength. So now to get to ur points:
(a) Interest--u got no choice in rule-of-law sanctity-of-contract society founded upon individual freedom: for if people contract upon issue of interest, the law is bound to respect. There's nothing wrong with interest payment or charging, as long as u want to respect contracts. For that is the fundamental issue: sanctity-of-contract. The outstanding analyst of the subject of banking is, for me, G. Edward Griffin, a Bircher; he also acknowledges interest if perfectly legit. Check his outstanding work, The Creature From Jekyll Island, brilliantly referenced, a magnificent work of scholarship, eminently readable, with a summary section for every chapter; unsurpassed for a thorough exposition.
(b)skipping now to "good-evil," simply note in determined universe of absolute cause-effect, everything happens necessarily. There's no perfectly free human free will. As Socrates says (fm Plato), no one sins willingly.
So after a cyclic upsurge of success culminating in the monumental American Constitution enshrining the natural law, hence inalienable individual rights of the citizenry, especially as in Bill Of Rights, Oswald Spengler indicates the inevitable result, success, happiness, then HUBRIS, in accord with Greek Tragedy, thus descent into socialism, simply a fashionable, democratic-styled fascism, degenerating further into crass gangster communism and mass murder. Cyclic behavior expressed sociologically, hence collectivistically, impinging upon our individual lives. Jews as subjectivists dominate in this "Decline of the West" as they are most thoroughgoing criminals, narcissists, hysterics, always seeking "one-upmanship" and control over all frauds and crime.
Of course removing the Jews doesn't essentially change things; humans are still sinners, and things will continue in cyclic fashion.
"Good-evil" are just subjectivistic buzz-words or metaphors reflecting self-interest, that's all. Jews are only "bad" inasmuch as they're bad for gentile health. To Jews, we're same, a disease, to them. Ck my essay "Antisemitic Facts..." on WhiteAlert.com. Also u have my essay on ur other blog, "Truth Does Not Negotiate With Lies."
Seriously, "good-evil" are not serious concepts; rather they're makeshifts for children and dumb people, yes, who make up the majority (by far) of the population, I'm afraid. And I pray I'm not being too presumptuous in my assessment. Nonetheless people need leadership and Christianity is how we must rally our volk, like Saint Constantine-the-Great in 4th Cent. Roman Empire.
(c) Regarding to reversion to original method of Senatorial election: note (1) it can't be worse than what we got presently. (2) It will be good to "shake things up" by removing in one swoop the present claque of conspirators who just approved Alito, the fascist who promises to rubber-stamp Bush's looming police state.
(d) Regarding the other points: (1) on "burning out" for the "forest fire," note Reality is DETERMINED, we having no real or perfect free will, everything following fm cause-effect. U as scientist must acknowledge u've never witnessed any deviance fm strict cause-effect, hence determinism, the only alternative being the miraculous. We've gotta "go with the flow" of the cycle of history. Jews (and "Sadduceans") and conspirators suffer this approaching inevitability: THE PARASITE WILL EVENTUALLY KILL THE HOST; thus the Jews will begin to fight one another. And this is how we must plan: not on what we WISH will happen, but what we KNOW MUST HAPPEN, in accord with the cyclic process/continuation of things historical. Thus we exploit any possible conflict arising in the conspiracy according to New Testament (NT) conspiracy theory. The elders are traitors, but they profit much less than topmost masterminds and bankers. Also the "Judeo-Christians" (JCs) can be informed as to the fraud they're falling for. Again see aforementioned essay on "Truth Does Not Negotiate With Lies." Jews are followers of Pharisees sect, no more than 15% at most of Judean people of Christ's day. After the Rebellion of 66-72 AD, there were only two main sects of Judeans: the Jews, followers of Pharisees and Christians, surely the majority. Again note Talmud is controlling document of Jews, the VERY ANTITHESIS of NT, both of these purporting to follow fm Old Testament--which is only Pharisaic in small parts. "Jews" are not same as Israelites or Hebrews, most of these "Jews" coming fm totally unrelated Turkic Khazars, actually, now called "Ashkenazim."
(2) "collectivism" is mere means to individual ends, ultimately; in times of war, it is necessary resort. Collectivism in accord with OBJECTIVE rule-of-law is perfectly legitimate as it is subject to CONTRACT, as among individuals. Note Jew subjectivism destroys rule-of-law.
Jews are insane collectivists, narcissists, hysterics, and must be isolated, interned, and confiscated; they're insane, though it is true their insanity WORKS TO DOMINATE THINGS IN cyclic "Decline of the West." Jews insanely insist they're "persecuted" when actually they're the murderers and oppressors. Look at Jews now, by far the richest, most powerful minority, etc. etc. Holohoax is total lies, lies, lies.
To take a most instructive example, consider the Jew, "Miss R," fm a different blog, who said Jews were forced into banking in Middle Ages, banned fm farming. The fact is Jews WERE ALWAYS BANKERS (especially fractional-reserve frauds) FM ROMAN TIMES AND BEFORE, in Persian times (see Book of Esther) and then Macedonian Greek times, long before the Romans. Jews thus were ALWAYS hated by gentiles long, long before Middle Ages, thus were always proscribed. Thus it is total lie Jew "MISS R" tells to imply at any time Jews were farmers, for example, then were proscribed, then had to become bankers. See Jew Bernard Lazare's "Antisemitism," first published in 1894, confirming my account given to u, just above.
U gotta get past the perfunctory lies the Jews religiously tell, over and over, so insistently, repeated ad nauseum, as the fractional-reserve frauds necessarily come to own all the mass-media, to see the truth: they're just a criminal conspiracy masquerading as "religion." Yes, the lower-level, dumber Jews actually revere their rabbis who direct them so cleverly. U just gotta come to grips as to what Talmud says about Christ. Live and learn. Presently u must face fact u've been had by Jew propaganda. So was I, and so were so many of us all, weak-minded gentiles as we grow up learning the hard-way.
As scientist, u must rely on inductive logic: Jews are always topmost criminals, conspirators, and frauds, the leaders of every substantial conspiracy, scam, con-game, and fraud; they make it their business AND RELIGION, a religion of WARFARE, their God a psychopathic War God. Such is Talmudism. See Ed Steele's "It Wasn't The Arabs..." a magnificent exercise in INDUCTIVE LOGIC, on ConspiracyPenPal.com.
No matter what, u must, simply as good, loyal citizen, observe inductive logic places the Jews under suspicion, as in 9-11, as well as every other outrage. Jews must now prove themselves not guilty which they cannot do--it's simple science and scientific method.
It's better late than never u begin dialectic; combined with the internet, the Jews know their days as topmost criminals are numbered; same goes for "Sadduceans": THEY CANNOT STAND THE TRUTH, and they hate logic and objectivity. That's the main metaphysical conflict: Greek/Western objectivity and rule-of-law versus Jew subjectivism-hystericism-narcissism and ultimately insanity. We gentiles must emphasize objectivity and continue to warn our people against the HUBRISTIC HERESY of "Judeo-Christianity," neo-Pelagianism, and non-racism (as it used to be people understood racism naturally a obvious virtue of loyalty).
Elections with accountable "paper-trails" is just common-sense, no?
Thanks for ur (belated) attempt at honest dialectic. Apollonian
Apollonian, History and history related to religions is not my strong point. I've only recently been studying the Bible and admitting that God is out there.
What I don't understand, is why we must form a Christian society? Why must the government of the people include any religion? I'm thinking you will say this is necessary to keep the jews down. And I may just be reflecting a large flaw in our current society of selfishness and ignorance of knowing God and his will.
Why not Church of Latter Day Saints? Who is to say that God didn't really tell him about the gold tablets?
Why must religion include hate? That is what I don't like about reading some of your comments. They are filled with hate toward one sect of people. Why must we keep giving in the the "evil" of hate?
Why does it matter that the corruption and evil and 9/11 etc are Jewish? Why can't we just label those individuals as "bad" or "evil" and "corrupt" and "greedy" why is it a religion? Is the head of the religion (is there such a thing?) directly their followers to commit these crimes against humanity?
Please don't lambast me. I know that I'm very uneducated about the history here, but I think it is valid to ask why our "revolution" must include any religion.
And I like the idea of states taking more power. This does seem feasible, but it will take a lot of time. I don't know if we have this much time.
Friday, February 03, 2006
Anonymous said...
To 1:20 PM "efsaturn": thanks for ur comments. I wouldn't even think of "lambasting"--unless someone did it to me first, good comrade. Pls ck my essays on the subject of antisemitism on WhiteAlert.com, also on other blogs, this site, esp. "Truth Does Not Negotiate With Lies," which u might find informative and interesting. Also I got a bunch of essays on NewNation.org under "commentary" heading. VanguardNewsNetwork.com also has a lot of my older essays (he doesn't publish me anymore as I decry his putrid and heretical Pelagianism).
Note religion is mere weapon/instrument as the real essential issue is actually philosophical, as always: we're up against the most sublimely insane people in the history of the world, for their insanity actually WORKS--when we gentiles are stupid and suffer hubris, the greatest sin according to the Greeks, we suffering the Spenglerian "Decline of the West."
Ask urself--what is a liar, actually? Answer is a liar is someone who ignores the objective reality and substitutes something else more self-serving, a subjectivist. A liar is just an extreme subjectivist, eh?
And that's the real metaphysical dynamic at work, the Hegelian dialectic: Greek-Western OBJECTIVITY vs. Jew SUBJECTIVISM, narcissism, hysteria. Jews are foremost subjectivists; they think they're God who creates reality, reality being whatever they say it is. Thus whenever our culture becomes corrupt and subjectivistic, as presently with the rule of "moralism," rather than law strictly understood, Jews will naturally dominate as they are most thoroughgoing subjectivists and will always beat any other "amateurs" at the craft.
Religion then is a resort in aesthetics, drama, and rhetoric by which such philosophy is expressed and conveyed to the people. Remember, most folks can't hack philosophy--they need religion to express things for them.
Note u really do have to find out what Judaism-Talmudism is all about--then u'll know the how and why for Christianity much better. Again ck blog, this site, "Truth Does Not Negotiate With Lies,"--it was one of my best efforts. Note again Jews are absolute collectivists who also pretend to practicing individualism too. Our Christian emphasis is the reverse, primarily individualists, but also collectivists when and as necessary,like during times of War.
I suspect one of ur problems is u fear hatred--don't worry about it. For if u love, then naturally u'll hate too, merely a necessarily reciprocal emotion. If u don't hate, then u won't love. The trick is to always maintain one's reason, hence one's "cool," so to speak so one can best reason under all the possible emotional circumstances; thus we try to keep "perspective" upon things. Of course one shouldn't act too impulsively upon emotion, any emotion whatever whether hate or other--reason is the rule and ideal. But don't worry about hatred as long as u're rationalist as u possibly can be--then u'll know best if whatever hatred u feel is justified and appropriate, and then WHY U FEEL THAT WAY, this explored by means of ur reason. So again, I urge u not to worry too much about hatred; rather, just strive to be honest and think things out most logically as u can.
Actually, and again, I'm rationalistic as I can be; I was Philosophy major before I took up History major in grad school. BUT RELIGION AND THEOLOGY ARE NEAT WAYS OF DRAMATIZING and applying PHILOSOPHY AND BRINGING IT TO THE VOLK, never forget. Christianity then is magnificent AESTHETIC parallel with most perfect and purest reason and logic. Western reason goes well with such aesthetic Christianity, never doubt, and history well reflects such compatibility/complementarity.
Actually the best and most rationalistic government then provides best for proper Christianity, and vice-versa.
Why hate Jews?--why not? esp. when u find out they hate u and have nothing but purest contempt for u if u're gentile. Ck their religious works. The obvious and blatant hatred of Jews for gentiles is expressed by their lie to effect they're "persecuted" by gentiles, just their excuse for murder and fraud.
Thus u'll find upon investigation Jews are foremost conspirators at war with everyone else, their God just a glorified attack-dog which they use as excuse for fraud and murder. Thus Jews hysterically stay "one-up" by means of their "religion," (at least that's what they seem to think.), actually a most sublime--and effective--war strategy-program by which Jews rule in accord w. supposed "will" of their devil-demon which they call a "God." Take care, Apollonian
One way to think of evil is simply the absence of good - if you perceive of good as a positive force, then the absence (or negative) aspect of good is evil.
This means that the various manifestations of evil (devil, ghosts, spirits) are fantasies we create because it is so difficult to conceive of a void - we have to fill it.
Therefore the admonistion to do good, otherwise evil will result.
As far as everything already determined - that is also a fantasy, because we can't conceive of doubt or choice or decision, therefore cause and effect - one form of action - is viewed as all forms of action. A seductive fantasy, but fantasy nonetheless. If all is determined then there are no true ethical choices, and the only reason to get involved is to be entertained. If you believe in serious choices, then determinism must be thrown out as a philosophy.
Finally, I can do without the anti-semitism. It's great for appealing to our base instincts, emotions and prejudices, but it simply doesn't wash with experience. You lose credibility with these kind of comments - I'm not asking you to censor yourself, but to think through what you are writing.
Friday, February 03, 2006
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Why dont you guys keep it simple. Start all over again and instead of thinking in revolutionairy terms consider starting a new country USA version 2.0 beta. The first thing you need to do is that you de3clare that you do not recognise the government of the USA. Even better since you are not yet with that many declare war to the USA. The mouse that roared! I bet it starts a very interesing legal puzzle.
TomTom Always know where I am
Friday, February 03, 2006
Anonymous said...
Hey what happened to my post which went on yesterday?--I know as I checked and saw it posted. Someone seems to have scrubbed my comment, directed esp. to above "pebird" and "TomTom," commending them for their constructive observations. What gives? Apollonian
From: "Apollonian" To: qrswave@yahoo.com Subject: [The Truth Will Set You Free] 2/04/2006 12:45:02 PM Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 09:54:00 -0800 (PST) Thesis Notes, Criticisms, Remarks: "TomTom" "Grows" Revolutionary Patriot DIALECTIC, "Pebird" Accompanies Significantly (Apollonian 4 Feb 06)
Hey thanks much fellas--why, u two guys, "pebird" and "TomTom" are tremendous commentators and analysts, I'm floored by the sheer insight of it all. "TomTom's" is best however as he hits directly upon the truth: the problem is the corrupted political entity within the Spenglerian "Decline of the West." But "Pebird" supplies nearly equally brilliant details, like about the PREJUDICE against dear old determinism.
But anyway, the best thing to do is preach New Testament Conspiracy Theory-Analytic-Template for most perfect evaluation for any era (historical), this in the spirit of "TomTom's" brilliance, I submit.
And it really and truly is potentially simple in concept, "TomTom's" insight: like with just the obvious and verifiable fact 16th amendment (Income Tax) wasn't properly ratified--neither the 14th. (It can be google-searched; there's this one guy who's got the greatest website, and he wrote this book entitled, (The Law That Never Was.")
Shows how acute our fellow citizens are and can be--but hey, we are the elect by God to duly informing the volk; we must not shirk our solemn duty. We're prophets and "voices fm Wilderness," consider.
And it COULD (but perhaps not so much in practice) be as simple as, for example, through e-mail campaign people acting together well enough to throw out the present sitting US Senators and conspirators, and just replace them with candidates voted on by State Legislatures--which would give a kind of "momentum" for revolutionary development.
Hence u must be ANTISEMITIC if u have any integrity. Determinism is (scientifically) simply axiomatic; any alternative is mere fantasy and narcissistic indulgence, hubris, like Immanuel Kant and German Transcendental Idealism (GTI), mere rationalistic-style neo-Pelagianism, crass heresy.
Thus Christianity MUST BE ANTISEMITIC for its very identification and nature. If it's not "antisemitic," it ain't Christian. Such is the heretical problem with present absurd "Judeo-Christianity" (JC), a contradiction in terms which makes no sense. Bush then, is the leader of these JC idiots, front-man for the "Sadduceans" of modern-day.
Adolf Hitler was a mere Pelagian heretic; Constantine the Great shows us how to do it in way of necessary cultural revolution--so do the American founders, most magnificent racists.
And observe non-racism is actually heresy. Racism is simply virtue of loyalty and pride. The trick is to be rational for our natural emotional prejudices. Every healthy person is racist (loyal). Again, non-racism is heresy in real sense, a pathetic delusion-fallacy. Presently an otherwise virtuous person suffers fm such non-racist heresy, our own "qrswave."
Hence we strive for the deterministic Christian ideal in order to deal with the anti-christ subjectivists and the Judeo-"Sadducean" conspiracy.
Remember again, I stress first, that basic Metaphysical principle, OBJECTIVITY versus the thematic Judaic SUBJECTIVISM, hubris, narcissism, hystericism, psychosis.
Christianity vs Judaism-Talmudism is mere aesthetic PARALLEL to the more strictly formal objectivity vs. subjectivity. Such Christian aesthetic thus practiced, the sociologic creature is called a "RELIGION." But I consider Christianity in essence an aesthetic, once again.
Ethics then is means to ends. Ethics is science of means. Ethics can never, therefore be END IN ITSELF, yet just another heresy, indulgence, hubris, fallacy, lie, fraud, or HOAX, like Immanuel Kant's entire comedy of a system, so-called. Aristophanes was merely a less sublime comedian than Kant, otherwise a genuinely brilliant guy, I'm sure. People actually made "pilgrimages" to Kant, I understand. Nowadays we got such as Father Guido Sarducci, our man-fm-the-vatican, hey.
CONCLUSION: Finally, I thank again our commentators, "pebird," and "TomTom who offer brilliant analyses, "TomTom" really scoring largely, as we say. The great value of blogs like this is DIALECTIC. Thus our patriot-revolutionary dialectic, hence information, is enhanced. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian
-- Posted by Apollonian to The Truth Will Set You Free at 2/04/2006 12:45:02 PM
Monday, February 06, 2006
Anonymous said...
Thanks much qrswave, I really wanted "pebird" and "TomTom" to know how much they're appreciated, esp. for purposes of "dialectic" by which I hope to effect Constantinian antisemitic Christian revolution. Apollonian
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[Image]Does the proposition sound absurd to you? It does to me. But, it happens everyday, all over the world.
When governments ask central bankers to bail their nations out of debt by auctioning new bonds at interest, it's like asking vampires to donate blood to their victims. And this is no exaggeration. "You are a den of vipers. I intend to rout you out and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning."
--Andrew Jackson, 1828 (to a group of investment bankers trying to persuade him to renew their charter)In fact, the American revolution came about precisely because the colonies witnessed how the Bank of England's unwarranted demands on them immediately destroyed their prosperity. "[The Colonists] would have gladly borne the little tax on tea and other matters, if it had not been that they took from us our money — which created great unemployment and dissatisfaction. Within a year, the poor houses were filled. The hungry and homeless walked the streets everywhere."
"[T]he inability of the Colonists to get the power to issue their own money, permanently out of the hands of King George III and the international bankers, was the prime reason for the Revolutionary War.”
--Benjamin FranklinAnd here we are, over 200 years later, ruled by a man who goes by the same name and bankers that play the same game. How did this happen? Didn't history teach us ANYTHING? If the American People ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around (the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered . . .
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government in defiance.
--Thomas JeffersonAnd indeed, that's exactly what happened. Lend, inflate, deflate, repossess. Lend, inflate, deflate, repossess. And so on, and so forth until all our essential industries became theirs (steel, wheat, dairy, energy, telecommunications, publishing, defense, healthcare, insurance), along with most of our land.
They invaded and corrupted our institutions, erasing any trace of our past that might awaken us to the calamity of our condition and molded our minds to suit the roles they set out for us.
So, what do we do? The issuing power should be taken from the banks, and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. --Thomas Jefferson But, freedom has a price.“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”
--Patrick HenryAre you willing to sacrifice to win back your freedom? “If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
--Samuel AdamsI know many of you, like me, want to avoid armed struggle, if at all possible (especially since we're the ones who are unarmed!).
But, you can start by telling moneylenders to take their blood money and shove it. Then raise your voice as loud and as often as you can against this unjust system of fraud and oppression.
Our monetary system is broken and it will not fix itself. If we don't act now, they will extinguish what's left of our freedom.
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1 – 200 of 666 Newer› Newest»THE EXIGENCIES OF REVOLUTION
(by Apollonian, 2 Feb 06)
Okay yes, alright--I'll do it, I'll agree that u have something of a point in all ur observations, much as it may be hard to admit. Thus we plot REVOLUTION. This revolution then is most serious business as the oligarchs pre-emptively accuse us of TREASON.
But do u know what u're asking?--u're asking people to give up an intimate ADDICTION, that to MAMMON. U want to give up Mammon itself? Have u ever heard of "Alcoholics Anonymous"?--those people desperately try to get rid of addiction to a relatively simple thing, alcohol, and most of them don't/can't do it. Rather, they just end up trying to "manage"--so must we.
But u do have a point--how do u "manage" tyranny? Hmmmm, truly a tough nut to crack, even to approach in scientific manner--But maybe not. Hence, if not, then how would that be?--science and logic?--HISTORY?
Hence we see history acts in cycles according to Spengler, and even a little bit, Hegel, who features antitheses. But also don't forget that dear Greek, Anaximander.
THESIS: I submit u have to have a REVOLUTION, and it will have to emulate the dramatic times of Roman Empire and the Crisis solved to best of his ability, the Emperor Constantine-the-Great of early 4th century when the Romans almost seemed to revive from a steady decline (or "losing streak"), like through practically all of the entire 3rd century.
The problem then was much as now: MONEYLENDERS DRAINING THE CIVILIZATION (yes, like "VAMPIRES") LOOTING AND EXPLOITING To the DEATH and sickness of the sociologic organism, the remnant of Western Culture.
And the (internal) enemy was the same as now: The Jews and their "Sadducean" allies, along with other players, corrupt lawyers, et al., "scribes," and the corrupted elders, same as today, sucking the "profits" of empire, PRACTICING HERESY, that of "moralism" and the contradictory, totally false "religion," "Judeo-Christianity."
Note that part of our present problem with TYRANNY is the corrupted elders seem to think it's necessary for them to continue to profit. Elders are addicted to MAMMONIST EMPIRE.
Of course, there was another cultural and unitary entity to the east of the Romans, the Persians (Sassanians) who practiced a sublime dualism, Zoroastrianism. And this same heretical fascination also raged in the Roman Empire in form of Christian Gnosticism and, initially, more widely, Mithraism, later Manichaeism.
Then there were the pagan Germans to the North of the Romans; that's yet another, later story.
But anyway the quick (historic) preliminary/hypothetic conclusion I want to present, following the observations given also in the blogger's ("Asking Vampires to Donate Blood") introduction is we'll need revolution of the sort of Constantine's as I describe.
And there of course is the obligatory tyrannical, reactionary, problem, the present oligarchs, analyzed in accord with strict, but simple, New Testament (NT) Conspiracy Theory-analytic-template.
For the problem of "moneylending" is it's necessary part of warfare, for like the buying of weapons, etc. People won't get wise to "moneylending" till there's REVOLUTION, and it will require an able LEADERSHIP.
For this new religion must demonstrate its success in the face of warfare. But Christianity has always featured individualism along with OBJECTIVITY over its antithesis from which it sprang and continues to OPPOSE (subjectivism and collectivism, above all).
Thus we see the living, healthy body of culture and civilization desperately fighting the disease of "hubris." It's like a herd of animals, formerly successful, fighting disease.
And the observation is there's still a few too many weaklings who are feeding the parasites, THE "VAMPIRES," the moneylenders, featuring a seductive, highly addictive, fallacious heresy, false religion, and ethic.
Thus we still have to WEATHER THE (cultural) STORM and simply wait for the turmoil to subside before real revolutionary conditions of success prevail and presents itself.
Thus the question of MANAGEMENT: how do we exert our human but not perfectly free wills consistent with our natures and the possible cultural upsurge and emergence FROM (Spenglerian) "DECLINE."
Hence in accord with a possible Constantinian-style revolution we do things in small, rationalist increments consistent with possible successful and virtuous revolution and liberation, like honest elections with paper trails, reversion of election of US Senators to state legislatures, etc.
And hence all these small points must be consistent with real CHRISTIANITY, as in Roman Empire--NOT THE PRESENT "Judeo-Christian" (JC) heresy, accompanied by neo-Pelagianism as of Kant and "German Transcendental Idealism" (GTI).
This most serious and conscientious Christian revolutionary change will inconvenience some people of imperialist persuasion, I'm afraid, but we'll just have to do it in order to save the patient.
The "greater good" may truly be difficult to calculate as it isn't same as collectivist "greatest good of greatest number." Thus we think of quality over mere quantity as perhaps most of the host victim body might be weaklings, susceptible to JC heresy. Thus we try our Christian best nonetheless.
Thus things will have to happen. Justice must occur. States will increase their powers and influence at expense of centralized tyrannical empire. Jews and their cohorts will complain. This complaining of Jews must be anticipated but accepted as part of the price to be paid. We have NO "MORAL" (esp. in form of "good-evil" style) OBLIGATIONS TO JEWS OR ALIENS OR ENEMIES; they must fall, subside, and recede. Thus we work for Christian survival at expense of anyone else--sorry, tough luck, but we gotta see to our individual interests, the collective an instrumental means to our cultural ends--again, at the expense of Judaism and "Sadduceanism" as it is necessary; it's either-or.
Military-political consideration requires expectation of Jews fighting actively against the host Christian population--thus the necessity of a leadership consistent with that of Constantine-the-Great (and the American founders, Christian racists).
And observe Jews have already acted pre-emptively on numerous occasions, as in form of "communists," like in 1917 Russia whence they saw to the "expenditure" of millions and millions, then millions more in Ukraine, then millions and millions more, especially Germanic, unfortunately and tragically, during WWII.
Today our cutural enemies, the oligarchal tyrants and Pharisaic-"Sadducean" conspirators perpetrated 9-11, rigging of fraudulent 2004 elections, and assassination of Iraq, among many other somewhat lesser things, like murder of Vicky and Sammy Weaver at Ruby Ridge, the OKC bombing, etc.
Again, I don't say these "communists" and Jews (as well as "Sadduceans") are "evil"; rather, they're just agents of cyclic reality, culling the herd of white people, killing the weaklings, thinning them out, again, it all taking place in natural CYCLIC fashion.
Hence I present my own theory of history, but actually just detailing and applying what and how I understand of Spengler, Hegel, and Anaximander, for foremost theoreticalistic examples.
Thus we see Bush, the frontman for the Jew-"Sadducean," et al., CONSPIRATORIAL-COMPLEX (matrix). And note the John Birch Society (see JBS.org) presents one vision for an aspect of this conspiracy/fraud, founded upon FRACTIONAL-RESERVE (as of the Federal Reserve Bank [Fed] counterfeiting racket), but entailing numerous other frauds, like holohoax, etc.
Thus MAMMON is difficult to fight, like addiction, like heresy, delusion, smugness, and hubris, these worse than any "drugs," even alcohol. Basically, we just wait for it to "burn itself out" like a forest fire--or a plague working its way through the population/herd. There's no "good-evil." We don't say the Jews are "evil."
Hence my final observation in sum is things are so tough and warlike as we see Bush prosecuting things in this present age: Orwellian "PERPETUAL WAR FOR PERPETUAL PEACE."
So again I submit whatever happens, we'll have to present a most militant, yet still rationalistic Christianity.
Thus we've got to be consistent with Inductive logic as we survey our situation, culturally, politically, rhetorically. Thus we practice a tough, consistent, militant, highly rationalistic Christianity whence our imperialist enemies, Pharisaic and "Sadducean," complain as they complained against St. Constantine the Great, who was such a magnificent ANTISEMITE.
And never forget Tyrants, fascists, and oppressors always complain of "Antisemitism" and suchlike lack of "morality."
Thus we must be sure our revolution is truly revolutionary: it must be ANTISEMITIC, but not forgetting or overlooking the "Sadducean" traitors, like Falwell, Robertson, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, et al., "Judeo-Christians," probably the scummiest, most brainlessly pathetic heretics who ever existed, traitors and fascists always making their excuses on pretext of "moralism." SUCH ARE THE PROBLEMS AND SNARES OF HERESY.
CONCLUSION: Thus our Constantinian Christian Revolution must be most thorough-going, militant, and deterministic, never succumbing to such moralistic PELAGIANIST heresy repudiated by such Saint as Augustine, featuring a rationalistic-deterministic Christianity in all its necessary MILITANT EFFECTIVENESS AND SUCCESS. Honest Elections and Death to the Fed.
Thursday, February 02, 2006
wow. long comment.
Thanks for admitting that we can agree to disagree on some things (albeit very important things) while exchanging ideas on other things that we share in common, like our desire to abolish the Fed.
I am still not clear what your position is on interest, in general, outside the Fed. In case you haven't noticed, I am categorically against it.
Regarding your numerous historical references, I am sorry to say that I cannot respond intelligently, as I lack the necessary background. I've been a science major most of my life. I have only recently discovered the paramount importance of history.
That aside. We already know my position on Jews - and Christians, and Muslims. I am not convinced that any faith monopolizes evil anymore than I'm convinced that they monopolize good. But alas, that's not useful discussion. From comments that you made on the MLK post, I am not eager to rehash that issue.
So, let's get to the practical issue on how to abolish the corrupt Fed.
I'm not sure that I understand your "CYCLIC" theory (as opposed to good/evil). And, if there's no such thing as good/evil, then what do you call conduct that's not good?
Also, please elaborate on how you're going to convince people that it's a good idea to revert "election[s] of US Senators to state legislatures." (I'm not saying it's a bad idea.)
I do not agree that we should "just wait for it to 'burn itself out' like a forest fire." I consider myself actively taking part in a revolution of IDEAS, which is the first solid step in any lasting evolution of humanity.
I agree that collectivist good without considering individual welfare is a harmful approach to governance. But, I don't think that one group has to suffer (only because of race or other inconsequential features) for another to prevail.
BUT, of course, people (whatever their race or religion) who are bent on subjugating others, must suffer defeat so that cooperative people can live in peace. Clearly, you cannot co-operate with someone bent on subjugating you.
That's it for now.
Thursday, February 02, 2006
Nice quotes, Mr. Q. I have been studying science most of my life as well, and have only recently begun to understand monetary policay and history.
I have to agree it will take a revolution to improve our situation. And don't wait for anybody else to do it!
The only revolution possible to begin today is the personal revolution. Every last person in this country must take it upon themselves to change their lives and reduce consumption. Stop shopping! Stop burning gasoline! Start trading with your neighbors, and if you feel you don't have anything to trade, GROW something to trade.
Massive social change begins with US! It's not something where you can expect "somebody else" to do it. There is no half-steppin here.
I've also recently learned that interest has a long history, and that it was written in ancient Sumer what the "fee" for borrowing commodities would be. If you borrow two pieces of gold, and I want three back for being so nice to you, I would hope you are going to use those pieces of gold to purchase materials that would contribute to your own wealth (farm equipment, etc..) and you would be able to grow food to make that money back - and more.
That makes some sense to me. Printing phantom currency to cover debt and interest doesn't.
Love that American Revolution talk!
Friday, February 03, 2006
Well hello qrswave; finally u start to talk some serious "turkey"--a genuine "dialectic" now can get going--what we need most. And note how easy it really is in all Christian honesty; believe it or not, it's always my main strength. So now to get to ur points:
(a) Interest--u got no choice in rule-of-law sanctity-of-contract society founded upon individual freedom: for if people contract upon issue of interest, the law is bound to respect. There's nothing wrong with interest payment or charging, as long as u want to respect contracts. For that is the fundamental issue: sanctity-of-contract. The outstanding analyst of the subject of banking is, for me, G. Edward Griffin, a Bircher; he also acknowledges interest if perfectly legit. Check his outstanding work, The Creature From Jekyll Island, brilliantly referenced, a magnificent work of scholarship, eminently readable, with a summary section for every chapter; unsurpassed for a thorough exposition.
(b)skipping now to "good-evil," simply note in determined universe of absolute cause-effect, everything happens necessarily. There's no perfectly free human free will. As Socrates says (fm Plato), no one sins willingly.
So after a cyclic upsurge of success culminating in the monumental American Constitution enshrining the natural law, hence inalienable individual rights of the citizenry, especially as in Bill Of Rights, Oswald Spengler indicates the inevitable result, success, happiness, then HUBRIS, in accord with Greek Tragedy, thus descent into socialism, simply a fashionable, democratic-styled fascism, degenerating further into crass gangster communism and mass murder. Cyclic behavior expressed sociologically, hence collectivistically, impinging upon our individual lives. Jews as subjectivists dominate in this "Decline of the West" as they are most thoroughgoing criminals, narcissists, hysterics, always seeking "one-upmanship" and control over all frauds and crime.
Of course removing the Jews doesn't essentially change things; humans are still sinners, and things will continue in cyclic fashion.
"Good-evil" are just subjectivistic buzz-words or metaphors reflecting self-interest, that's all. Jews are only "bad" inasmuch as they're bad for gentile health. To Jews, we're same, a disease, to them. Ck my essay "Antisemitic Facts..." on WhiteAlert.com. Also u have my essay on ur other blog, "Truth Does Not Negotiate With Lies."
Seriously, "good-evil" are not serious concepts; rather they're makeshifts for children and dumb people, yes, who make up the majority (by far) of the population, I'm afraid. And I pray I'm not being too presumptuous in my assessment. Nonetheless people need leadership and Christianity is how we must rally our volk, like Saint Constantine-the-Great in 4th Cent. Roman Empire.
(c) Regarding to reversion to original method of Senatorial election: note (1) it can't be worse than what we got presently. (2) It will be good to "shake things up" by removing in one swoop the present claque of conspirators who just approved Alito, the fascist who promises to rubber-stamp Bush's looming police state.
(d) Regarding the other points: (1) on "burning out" for the "forest fire," note Reality is DETERMINED, we having no real or perfect free will, everything following fm cause-effect. U as scientist must acknowledge u've never witnessed any deviance fm strict cause-effect, hence determinism, the only alternative being the miraculous. We've gotta "go with the flow" of the cycle of history. Jews (and "Sadduceans") and conspirators suffer this approaching inevitability: THE PARASITE WILL EVENTUALLY KILL THE HOST; thus the Jews will begin to fight one another. And this is how we must plan: not on what we WISH will happen, but what we KNOW MUST HAPPEN, in accord with the cyclic process/continuation of things historical. Thus we exploit any possible conflict arising in the conspiracy according to New Testament (NT) conspiracy theory. The elders are traitors, but they profit much less than topmost masterminds and bankers. Also the "Judeo-Christians" (JCs) can be informed as to the fraud they're falling for. Again see aforementioned essay on "Truth Does Not Negotiate With Lies." Jews are followers of Pharisees sect, no more than 15% at most of Judean people of Christ's day. After the Rebellion of 66-72 AD, there were only two main sects of Judeans: the Jews, followers of Pharisees and Christians, surely the majority. Again note Talmud is controlling document of Jews, the VERY ANTITHESIS of NT, both of these purporting to follow fm Old Testament--which is only Pharisaic in small parts. "Jews" are not same as Israelites or Hebrews, most of these "Jews" coming fm totally unrelated Turkic Khazars, actually, now called "Ashkenazim."
(2) "collectivism" is mere means to individual ends, ultimately; in times of war, it is necessary resort. Collectivism in accord with OBJECTIVE rule-of-law is perfectly legitimate as it is subject to CONTRACT, as among individuals. Note Jew subjectivism destroys rule-of-law.
Jews are insane collectivists, narcissists, hysterics, and must be isolated, interned, and confiscated; they're insane, though it is true their insanity WORKS TO DOMINATE THINGS IN cyclic "Decline of the West." Jews insanely insist they're "persecuted" when actually they're the murderers and oppressors. Look at Jews now, by far the richest, most powerful minority, etc. etc. Holohoax is total lies, lies, lies.
To take a most instructive example, consider the Jew, "Miss R," fm a different blog, who said Jews were forced into banking in Middle Ages, banned fm farming. The fact is Jews WERE ALWAYS BANKERS (especially fractional-reserve frauds) FM ROMAN TIMES AND BEFORE, in Persian times (see Book of Esther) and then Macedonian Greek times, long before the Romans. Jews thus were ALWAYS hated by gentiles long, long before Middle Ages, thus were always proscribed. Thus it is total lie Jew "MISS R" tells to imply at any time Jews were farmers, for example, then were proscribed, then had to become bankers. See Jew Bernard Lazare's "Antisemitism," first published in 1894, confirming my account given to u, just above.
U gotta get past the perfunctory lies the Jews religiously tell, over and over, so insistently, repeated ad nauseum, as the fractional-reserve frauds necessarily come to own all the mass-media, to see the truth: they're just a criminal conspiracy masquerading as "religion." Yes, the lower-level, dumber Jews actually revere their rabbis who direct them so cleverly. U just gotta come to grips as to what Talmud says about Christ. Live and learn. Presently u must face fact u've been had by Jew propaganda. So was I, and so were so many of us all, weak-minded gentiles as we grow up learning the hard-way.
As scientist, u must rely on inductive logic: Jews are always topmost criminals, conspirators, and frauds, the leaders of every substantial conspiracy, scam, con-game, and fraud; they make it their business AND RELIGION, a religion of WARFARE, their God a psychopathic War God. Such is Talmudism. See Ed Steele's "It Wasn't The Arabs..." a magnificent exercise in INDUCTIVE LOGIC, on ConspiracyPenPal.com.
No matter what, u must, simply as good, loyal citizen, observe inductive logic places the Jews under suspicion, as in 9-11, as well as every other outrage. Jews must now prove themselves not guilty which they cannot do--it's simple science and scientific method.
It's better late than never u begin dialectic; combined with the internet, the Jews know their days as topmost criminals are numbered; same goes for "Sadduceans": THEY CANNOT STAND THE TRUTH, and they hate logic and objectivity. That's the main metaphysical conflict: Greek/Western objectivity and rule-of-law versus Jew subjectivism-hystericism-narcissism and ultimately insanity. We gentiles must emphasize objectivity and continue to warn our people against the HUBRISTIC HERESY of "Judeo-Christianity," neo-Pelagianism, and non-racism (as it used to be people understood racism naturally a obvious virtue of loyalty).
Elections with accountable "paper-trails" is just common-sense, no?
Thanks for ur (belated) attempt at honest dialectic. Apollonian
Friday, February 03, 2006
Apollonian,
History and history related to religions is not my strong point. I've only recently been studying the Bible and admitting that God is out there.
What I don't understand, is why we must form a Christian society? Why must the government of the people include any religion? I'm thinking you will say this is necessary to keep the jews down. And I may just be reflecting a large flaw in our current society of selfishness and ignorance of knowing God and his will.
Why not Church of Latter Day Saints? Who is to say that God didn't really tell him about the gold tablets?
Why must religion include hate? That is what I don't like about reading some of your comments. They are filled with hate toward one sect of people. Why must we keep giving in the the "evil" of hate?
Why does it matter that the corruption and evil and 9/11 etc are Jewish? Why can't we just label those individuals as "bad" or "evil" and "corrupt" and "greedy" why is it a religion? Is the head of the religion (is there such a thing?) directly their followers to commit these crimes against humanity?
Please don't lambast me. I know that I'm very uneducated about the history here, but I think it is valid to ask why our "revolution" must include any religion.
And I like the idea of states taking more power. This does seem feasible, but it will take a lot of time. I don't know if we have this much time.
Friday, February 03, 2006
To 1:20 PM "efsaturn": thanks for ur comments. I wouldn't even think of "lambasting"--unless someone did it to me first, good comrade. Pls ck my essays on the subject of antisemitism on WhiteAlert.com, also on other blogs, this site, esp. "Truth Does Not Negotiate With Lies," which u might find informative and interesting. Also I got a bunch of essays on NewNation.org under "commentary" heading. VanguardNewsNetwork.com also has a lot of my older essays (he doesn't publish me anymore as I decry his putrid and heretical Pelagianism).
Note religion is mere weapon/instrument as the real essential issue is actually philosophical, as always: we're up against the most sublimely insane people in the history of the world, for their insanity actually WORKS--when we gentiles are stupid and suffer hubris, the greatest sin according to the Greeks, we suffering the Spenglerian "Decline of the West."
Ask urself--what is a liar, actually? Answer is a liar is someone who ignores the objective reality and substitutes something else more self-serving, a subjectivist. A liar is just an extreme subjectivist, eh?
And that's the real metaphysical dynamic at work, the Hegelian dialectic: Greek-Western OBJECTIVITY vs. Jew SUBJECTIVISM, narcissism, hysteria. Jews are foremost subjectivists; they think they're God who creates reality, reality being whatever they say it is. Thus whenever our culture becomes corrupt and subjectivistic, as presently with the rule of "moralism," rather than law strictly understood, Jews will naturally dominate as they are most thoroughgoing subjectivists and will always beat any other "amateurs" at the craft.
Religion then is a resort in aesthetics, drama, and rhetoric by which such philosophy is expressed and conveyed to the people. Remember, most folks can't hack philosophy--they need religion to express things for them.
Note u really do have to find out what Judaism-Talmudism is all about--then u'll know the how and why for Christianity much better. Again ck blog, this site, "Truth Does Not Negotiate With Lies,"--it was one of my best efforts. Note again Jews are absolute collectivists who also pretend to practicing individualism too. Our Christian emphasis is the reverse, primarily individualists, but also collectivists when and as necessary,like during times of War.
I suspect one of ur problems is u fear hatred--don't worry about it. For if u love, then naturally u'll hate too, merely a necessarily reciprocal emotion. If u don't hate, then u won't love. The trick is to always maintain one's reason, hence one's "cool," so to speak so one can best reason under all the possible emotional circumstances; thus we try to keep "perspective" upon things. Of course one shouldn't act too impulsively upon emotion, any emotion whatever whether hate or other--reason is the rule and ideal. But don't worry about hatred as long as u're rationalist as u possibly can be--then u'll know best if whatever hatred u feel is justified and appropriate, and then WHY U FEEL THAT WAY, this explored by means of ur reason. So again, I urge u not to worry too much about hatred; rather, just strive to be honest and think things out most logically as u can.
Actually, and again, I'm rationalistic as I can be; I was Philosophy major before I took up History major in grad school. BUT RELIGION AND THEOLOGY ARE NEAT WAYS OF DRAMATIZING and applying PHILOSOPHY AND BRINGING IT TO THE VOLK, never forget. Christianity then is magnificent AESTHETIC parallel with most perfect and purest reason and logic. Western reason goes well with such aesthetic Christianity, never doubt, and history well reflects such compatibility/complementarity.
Actually the best and most rationalistic government then provides best for proper Christianity, and vice-versa.
Why hate Jews?--why not? esp. when u find out they hate u and have nothing but purest contempt for u if u're gentile. Ck their religious works. The obvious and blatant hatred of Jews for gentiles is expressed by their lie to effect they're "persecuted" by gentiles, just their excuse for murder and fraud.
Thus u'll find upon investigation Jews are foremost conspirators at war with everyone else, their God just a glorified attack-dog which they use as excuse for fraud and murder. Thus Jews hysterically stay "one-up" by means of their "religion," (at least that's what they seem to think.), actually a most sublime--and effective--war strategy-program by which Jews rule in accord w. supposed "will" of their devil-demon which they call a "God." Take care, Apollonian
Friday, February 03, 2006
thanks, I'll do some more reading.
Friday, February 03, 2006
One way to think of evil is simply the absence of good - if you perceive of good as a positive force, then the absence (or negative) aspect of good is evil.
This means that the various manifestations of evil (devil, ghosts, spirits) are fantasies we create because it is so difficult to conceive of a void - we have to fill it.
Therefore the admonistion to do good, otherwise evil will result.
As far as everything already determined - that is also a fantasy, because we can't conceive of doubt or choice or decision, therefore cause and effect - one form of action - is viewed as all forms of action. A seductive fantasy, but fantasy nonetheless. If all is determined then there are no true ethical choices, and the only reason to get involved is to be entertained. If you believe in serious choices, then determinism must be thrown out as a philosophy.
Finally, I can do without the anti-semitism. It's great for appealing to our base instincts, emotions and prejudices, but it simply doesn't wash with experience. You lose credibility with these kind of comments - I'm not asking you to censor yourself, but to think through what you are writing.
Friday, February 03, 2006
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Friday, February 03, 2006
Why dont you guys keep it simple. Start all over again and instead of thinking in revolutionairy terms consider starting a new country USA version 2.0 beta. The first thing you need to do is that you de3clare that you do not recognise the government of the USA. Even better since you are not yet with that many declare war to the USA. The mouse that roared!
I bet it starts a very interesing legal puzzle.
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Friday, February 03, 2006
Hey what happened to my post which went on yesterday?--I know as I checked and saw it posted. Someone seems to have scrubbed my comment, directed esp. to above "pebird" and "TomTom," commending them for their constructive observations. What gives? Apollonian
Sunday, February 05, 2006
Nothing happened to it. There were problems with eblogger yesterday. At least three of my posts were lost.
I'll dig it up from my email and post it for you.
Sunday, February 05, 2006
From: "Apollonian"
To: qrswave@yahoo.com
Subject: [The Truth Will Set You Free] 2/04/2006 12:45:02 PM
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 09:54:00 -0800 (PST)
Thesis Notes, Criticisms, Remarks: "TomTom" "Grows" Revolutionary Patriot DIALECTIC, "Pebird" Accompanies Significantly
(Apollonian 4 Feb 06)
Hey thanks much fellas--why, u two guys, "pebird" and "TomTom" are tremendous commentators and analysts, I'm floored by the sheer insight of it all. "TomTom's" is best however as he hits directly upon the truth: the problem is the corrupted political entity within the Spenglerian "Decline of the West." But "Pebird" supplies nearly equally brilliant details, like about the PREJUDICE against dear old determinism.
But anyway, the best thing to do is preach New Testament Conspiracy Theory-Analytic-Template for most perfect evaluation for any era (historical), this in the spirit of "TomTom's" brilliance, I submit.
And it really and truly is potentially simple in concept, "TomTom's" insight: like with just the obvious and verifiable fact 16th amendment (Income Tax) wasn't properly ratified--neither the 14th. (It can be google-searched; there's this one guy who's got the greatest website, and he wrote this book entitled, (The Law That Never Was.")
Shows how acute our fellow citizens are and can be--but hey, we are the elect by God to duly informing the volk; we must not shirk our solemn duty. We're prophets and "voices fm Wilderness," consider.
And it COULD (but perhaps not so much in practice) be as simple as, for example, through e-mail campaign people acting together well enough to throw out the present sitting US Senators and conspirators, and just replace them with candidates voted on by State Legislatures--which would give a kind of "momentum" for revolutionary development.
Hence u must be ANTISEMITIC if u have any integrity. Determinism is (scientifically) simply axiomatic; any alternative is mere fantasy and narcissistic indulgence, hubris, like Immanuel Kant and German Transcendental Idealism (GTI), mere rationalistic-style neo-Pelagianism, crass heresy.
Thus Christianity MUST BE ANTISEMITIC for its very identification and nature. If it's not "antisemitic," it ain't Christian. Such is the heretical problem with present absurd "Judeo-Christianity" (JC), a contradiction in terms which makes no sense. Bush then, is the leader of these JC idiots, front-man for the "Sadduceans" of modern-day.
Adolf Hitler was a mere Pelagian heretic; Constantine the Great shows us how to do it in way of necessary cultural revolution--so do the American founders, most magnificent racists.
And observe non-racism is actually heresy. Racism is simply virtue of loyalty and pride. The trick is to be rational for our natural emotional prejudices. Every healthy person is racist (loyal). Again, non-racism is heresy in real sense, a pathetic delusion-fallacy. Presently an otherwise virtuous person suffers fm such non-racist heresy, our own "qrswave."
Hence we strive for the deterministic Christian ideal in order to deal with the anti-christ subjectivists and the Judeo-"Sadducean" conspiracy.
Remember again, I stress first, that basic Metaphysical principle, OBJECTIVITY versus the thematic Judaic SUBJECTIVISM, hubris, narcissism, hystericism, psychosis.
Christianity vs Judaism-Talmudism is mere aesthetic PARALLEL to the more strictly formal objectivity vs. subjectivity. Such Christian aesthetic thus practiced, the sociologic creature is called a "RELIGION." But I consider Christianity in essence an aesthetic, once again.
Ethics then is means to ends. Ethics is science of means. Ethics can never, therefore be END IN ITSELF, yet just another heresy, indulgence, hubris, fallacy, lie, fraud, or HOAX, like Immanuel Kant's entire comedy of a system, so-called. Aristophanes was merely a less sublime comedian than Kant, otherwise a genuinely brilliant guy, I'm sure. People actually made "pilgrimages" to Kant, I understand. Nowadays we got such as Father Guido Sarducci, our man-fm-the-vatican, hey.
CONCLUSION: Finally, I thank again our commentators, "pebird," and "TomTom who offer brilliant analyses, "TomTom" really scoring largely, as we say. The great value of blogs like this is DIALECTIC. Thus our patriot-revolutionary dialectic, hence information, is enhanced. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian
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Posted by Apollonian to The Truth Will Set You Free at 2/04/2006 12:45:02 PM
Monday, February 06, 2006
Thanks much qrswave, I really wanted "pebird" and "TomTom" to know how much they're appreciated, esp. for purposes of "dialectic" by which I hope to effect Constantinian antisemitic Christian revolution. Apollonian
Monday, February 06, 2006
Everyone pay off your debts before they decide to recall those debts. None of us can afford to live imprisoned within their loan-pit.
Friday, September 15, 2006
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Why do we need a theistic/religious grouping of tribe?
Wednesday, August 06, 2008
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Talking abt a revolution is naive. The world is not the same place it was a century ago. We are headed towards the 'new world order' and no one knows what it can eventually take to change the direction. Is the world government really unavoidable?
The main issue is of course the financial system - how can You change it now? I hope it is not too late but the daily facts speak differently.
A number of jews may be in the core of the problem but I'll exclude blaming generally the jewish race. There are of course bad as well as good jewish persons. Many jews are poor and live a gentile life.
The political system needs to change as well. Obviously all recent political systems we know are compromised. What should be the new one?
Many questions - no answers....
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