I, for one, don't think that a war in Iran is inevitable, or even likely. China will veto any UN resolution, they need Iran's oil, and we don't have the necessary resources to fight another war. We can't fight the one we already have. Plus, Britain won't join us this time, so we'll have to go it alone. Maybe, if a miracle occurs and the economy survives, then a draft can be instituted and we can go there at some point in the future. But, that is in the future. Just my read,
Did I mention that there's nothing wrong with being wrong?
I hope you're right!
Friday, January 13, 2006
Anonymous said...
What the worshipping wingnuts don't seem to get, of course, is the US would have a hard time occupying Monaco with the troops available.
But of course cowards like El Shrubbo and Crooked Lip would know nothing of this, since they made damn sure they never actually had to experience an American war themselves.
Saturday, January 14, 2006
Anonymous said...
Do you really believe your assertion that Iran is developing nuclear energy for peaceful purposes? Their President has openly stated that his goal is to "wipe Israel off the map." Those are not the commets of someone interested in just "lighting a cigarette."
Anonymous has a very good point. The dissonance between what political leaders say and what they do is vast. I personally don't believe that Iran is developing nuclear technology only for peaceful energy purposes any more than I believe that Shrub's true purpose in Iraq is to spread democracy. And though I don't agree with the radical Zionist ideology found in some parts of the Israeli political landscape, Israel would be remiss if they choose not to take this development seriously.
I don't know how this will come out in the wash. On the one hand, Iran's development of nuclear weapons could be understood in light of the military aggressiveness of the Bush administration. Defending one's country from foreign aggressors is not at all unreasonable. On the other hand, nukes in the hands of a leader that wants to wipe another nation (Israel) from the map is not comforting in the least. I fear this may turn out to be a kind of "Cuban missile crisis" redux.
So much of what has happened in the past century has set the stage for what is occurring now. To quote the character Gandalf from the movie Return of the King, "The board is set, the pieces are moving."
All bets are off. It's anybody's guess.
Saturday, January 14, 2006
Anonymous said...
Iran will never use Nuclear weapons against Isreal because it would be suicidal--Remember Jeureselum is the holyland for the moslems too. Jerusalem is only 21 Miles or 35km from Tel Aviv. The most important mosque in all of Islam, the Mosque of Al-Aqsa where prophet Mohammad ascended to heaven is in Al-Aqsa The entire moslem community will turn against them. And while I recognize the significance of Iran's nuclear progress coupled with its president's horrific statements, one cannot view Iranian politics or foreign policy from a superficial perspective. The president, Ahmadinejad, has no military authority nor any real political power. However Iran needs a war to create diversion from it's failed economic policies and the brewing unrest threatning the regime's existence (http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2005/december-2005/bus_union_leaders_arrested_241205.shtml). To assess Iran's foreign policy, one needs to know it's internal politics and especially the recent election and "the silent coup" for the first time by the non-clerics or the non mullahs-- http://www.iran-bulletin.org/IB-MEF-3/presidentialelections_edited.htm
Saturday, January 14, 2006
Anonymous said...
Tehran's Collective Bus drivers organized, yesterday, a > symbolic protest action by setting on their head lights > during the day time. Most buses were decorated with > placards calling for the creation of 'independent' unions > and the immediate release of several arrested bus drivers. > > Militiamen were seen trying to stop the buses and detaching > the placards. But most users and Tehrani residents were > seen supporting the drivers by showing the 'V' (Victory) > sign or their rised fists. > > The drivers' symbolic action coincided, astonishingly, with > the seventieth anniversary of the "Iranian Women's > Emancipation Law" which was adopted by the former Iranian > regime, in 1935, and banned by the Islamic republic in > 1979. Many residents and users, especially among females, > were seen considering the bus drivers move as also a hidden > support for the message of modernism, equality and > secularism of the banned law. > > Several other drivers were arrested following the > yesterday's action despite all prior calls made by most of > the world's unions in favor of Iranian workers and > employees' rights which are disregarded by the theocratic > system. > > http://daneshjoo.org/publishers/smccdinews/article_4488.shtml
Saturday, January 14, 2006
Anonymous said...
Correction: The mosque of Al-Aqsa is in Jerusalem Not Al-Aqsa.
BREAKING: Iran Offers Olive Branch To Europeans By Safa Haeri Posted Saturday, January 14, 2006
PARIS, 14 Jan. (IPS) Less than 24 hours after Britain, France and Germany, backed by the United States warned Iran that its nuclear case would be referred to the United Nations Security Council, Tehran tendered an olive branch, calling on the Europeans to “return to the negotiation table and solving the issue peacefully”.
Jad never said "occupied Palestine" should be wiped off the map, instead he reiterated the supreme leaders statement that occupied palestine would no longer exsist in the future. translated into english by the "media whores"= "isreal should Die a firey death at our hands with our Nukes that we are building right now in secret", silly folks. isreal is a welfare state whose sponsor is about to come to terms with its own pocket book. isreal is not selfsufficient, instead of iran what of isreal and its stated desires to bomb iran for thinking of the future and being a country of technology>?. wierd huh>?
Peace Love Light
Saturday, January 14, 2006
The players are at the table, the pawns (us) are in position, and Iran is cornered. The United States and Europe formally declared an end on Thursday to negotiations and pledged to take the Iranians before the United Nations security council.These oligarchs are on the march to medieval warfare. All that's missing are the medieval costumes (or in a normal world, straight jackets). "What the Iranians did was to unilaterally destroy the basis on which the negotiations were taking place, which was that there was going to be a moratorium on these activities, it would be given time to work through these issues to try to find a solution," [Condoleeza Rice] told a news conference. "They unilaterally basically blew up the negotiations."Spoken like a true court jester. What else are they supposed to do?
The Iranians insist their nuclear work is for civilian use, which puts them squarely within their rights under the international treaty. A moratorium would effectively punish them for being SUSPECTED (by lunatics) of doing something they repeatedly denied having any intention of doing. How do you prove something in the negative?
You have a bomb. No, I don't. Okay, you intend to make a bomb. No, I don't. We don't believe you; you have matchsticks. But, I was about to light a cigarette. How do we know that while we're not looking you won't use those matchsticks to light a bomb? Drop the matchsticks. No! Fuck you, I want to light my cigarette.
Bingo. He just unilaterally "blew up the negotiations." What a farce. A joint [European] statement read: "The Iranian government now seems intent on turning its back on better relations with the international community."
It added: "This is not a dispute between Iran and Europe, but between Iran and the whole international community ... it is about Iran's failure to build the necessary confidence in the exclusively peaceful nature of its nuclear programme."Speak for yourselves, bozos. This is one pawn that's not fighting your God-forsaken wars for you.
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I, for one, don't think that a war in Iran is inevitable, or even likely. China will veto any UN resolution, they need Iran's oil, and we don't have the necessary resources to fight another war. We can't fight the one we already have. Plus, Britain won't join us this time, so we'll have to go it alone. Maybe, if a miracle occurs and the economy survives, then a draft can be instituted and we can go there at some point in the future. But, that is in the future. Just my read,
Cyclone
Friday, January 13, 2006
Did I mention that there's nothing wrong with being wrong?
I hope you're right!
Friday, January 13, 2006
What the worshipping wingnuts don't seem to get, of course, is the US would have a hard time occupying Monaco with the troops available.
But of course cowards like El Shrubbo and Crooked Lip would know nothing of this, since they made damn sure they never actually had to experience an American war themselves.
Saturday, January 14, 2006
Do you really believe your assertion that Iran is developing nuclear energy for peaceful purposes?
Their President has openly stated that his goal is to "wipe Israel off the map." Those are not the commets of someone interested in just "lighting a cigarette."
Saturday, January 14, 2006
Anonymous has a very good point. The dissonance between what political leaders say and what they do is vast. I personally don't believe that Iran is developing nuclear technology only for peaceful energy purposes any more than I believe that Shrub's true purpose in Iraq is to spread democracy. And though I don't agree with the radical Zionist ideology found in some parts of the Israeli political landscape, Israel would be remiss if they choose not to take this development seriously.
I don't know how this will come out in the wash. On the one hand, Iran's development of nuclear weapons could be understood in light of the military aggressiveness of the Bush administration. Defending one's country from foreign aggressors is not at all unreasonable. On the other hand, nukes in the hands of a leader that wants to wipe another nation (Israel) from the map is not comforting in the least. I fear this may turn out to be a kind of "Cuban missile crisis" redux.
So much of what has happened in the past century has set the stage for what is occurring now. To quote the character Gandalf from the movie Return of the King, "The board is set, the pieces are moving."
All bets are off. It's anybody's guess.
Saturday, January 14, 2006
Iran will never use Nuclear weapons against Isreal because it would be suicidal--Remember Jeureselum is the holyland for the moslems too. Jerusalem is only 21 Miles or 35km from Tel Aviv. The most important mosque in all of Islam, the Mosque of Al-Aqsa where prophet Mohammad ascended to heaven is in Al-Aqsa The entire moslem community will turn against them. And while I recognize the significance of Iran's nuclear progress coupled with its president's horrific statements, one cannot view Iranian politics or foreign policy from a superficial perspective. The president, Ahmadinejad, has no military authority nor any real political power. However Iran needs a war to create diversion from it's failed economic policies and the brewing unrest threatning the regime's existence (http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2005/december-2005/bus_union_leaders_arrested_241205.shtml). To assess Iran's foreign policy, one needs to know it's internal politics and especially the recent election and "the silent coup" for the first time by the non-clerics or the non mullahs-- http://www.iran-bulletin.org/IB-MEF-3/presidentialelections_edited.htm
Saturday, January 14, 2006
Tehran's Collective Bus drivers organized, yesterday, a
> symbolic protest action by setting on their head lights
> during the day time. Most buses were decorated with
> placards calling for the creation of 'independent' unions
> and the immediate release of several arrested bus drivers.
>
> Militiamen were seen trying to stop the buses and detaching
> the placards. But most users and Tehrani residents were
> seen supporting the drivers by showing the 'V' (Victory)
> sign or their rised fists.
>
> The drivers' symbolic action coincided, astonishingly, with
> the seventieth anniversary of the "Iranian Women's
> Emancipation Law" which was adopted by the former Iranian
> regime, in 1935, and banned by the Islamic republic in
> 1979. Many residents and users, especially among females,
> were seen considering the bus drivers move as also a hidden
> support for the message of modernism, equality and
> secularism of the banned law.
>
> Several other drivers were arrested following the
> yesterday's action despite all prior calls made by most of
> the world's unions in favor of Iranian workers and
> employees' rights which are disregarded by the theocratic
> system.
>
> http://daneshjoo.org/publishers/smccdinews/article_4488.shtml
Saturday, January 14, 2006
Correction: The mosque of Al-Aqsa is in Jerusalem Not Al-Aqsa.
BREAKING:
Iran Offers Olive Branch To Europeans
By Safa Haeri
Posted Saturday, January 14, 2006
PARIS, 14 Jan. (IPS) Less than 24 hours after Britain, France and Germany, backed by the United States warned Iran that its nuclear case would be referred to the United Nations Security Council, Tehran tendered an olive branch, calling on the Europeans to “return to the negotiation table and solving the issue peacefully”.
http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2006/january-2006/iran_eu_nuclear_14106.shtml
More intersting Iranian sites.
www.iranian.com
Saturday, January 14, 2006
Jad never said "occupied Palestine" should be wiped off the map, instead he reiterated the supreme leaders statement that occupied palestine would no longer exsist in the future. translated into english by the "media whores"= "isreal should Die a firey death at our hands with our Nukes that we are building right now in secret", silly folks. isreal is a welfare state whose sponsor is about to come to terms with its own pocket book. isreal is not selfsufficient, instead of iran what of isreal and its stated desires to bomb iran for thinking of the future and being a country of technology>?. wierd huh>?
Peace Love Light
Saturday, January 14, 2006