http://www.portalprelude.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1057 - I believe that explains how he didn't cheat. Nicolas, I'm not saying you're not doing your work thoroughly enough, but before you go to such drastic measures as BANNING I think you should check out the possibilities. I was at Stimich's house when he got one of his records. What I noticed was that the only program/app he had running was steam. I also noticed that he actually beat the record with his bear hands. Use source recorder yourself and tell me how the end result will become.
June 29, 2009 at 5:57 AM
Irwinator (cbrain) said...
It makes me so sad when people do things like this. :'(
If he's been caught cheating and banned etc, shouldnt this be snipped out cos technically he doesnt deserve the credit and praise being given in this thread?
These guys are freaking sick... Still can't get it how do they manage it 0_0 Very dope
July 31, 2009 at 7:33 AM
Anonymous said...
Well... few and raw things: I think you're taking your moderator's job too seriously, RELAX MAN. Then, He did a 13sec and you can find it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKbRMrLWvKw go and watch all 9 minutes. Finally: still saying that's a cheater, I'll still to think that you are a sad unskilled person.
Sincerly, L.C. AKA Xcava86X
October 19, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Some Old Fart said...
Nicolas, speaking as an outsider*, I'm near 100% sure that you and your group of friends fucked up with the Stimich case. Among other things, you chose to cover your eyes and stay ignorant. And yes, I've read the threads on the forums and examined some of the videos myself.
(*)I played Portal a year ago, know about the time trials and Stimich through Youtube. Fast forward 1 year, I heard news about Portal 2, came back and search around then found out about this whole fiasco.
P.S. Looks like it's been a long time, Stimich and everyone have already moved on. But oh well I already wrote the comment, would be a waste to not post it.
The debunking could be a complete farce if the the original video signal was changed due to compression or something lag related on the machine it was captured on.
Fraps constantly drops frames and modifies the speeds based on the intensity of the game and processor load. Sometimes a processor-intensive area of the game can cause Fraps to slow down from a locked standard such as PAL or NTSC (24 or 29.97 perhaps 30 frames per second) and drop around 4 to 10 frames which causes a visual lag on the output video since the spaced frames are stretched for timing or removed completely.
If his processor was lagging at the time you should see multiple frames of video that are exactly alike in the spots where lag occurred.
Although rare, sometimes bad compression can cause a "jittery" motion on playback, which in lieu of frames 1, 2, 3, and 4 being played in sucsession, they are played as 1,2,1,3,2,4,2,3,4 etc. which produces the jittery effect. I'm not sure what causes this, perhaps bad codec support, but it's very uncommon.
I'm not defending anyone I'm just trying to supply some facts.
May 20, 2010 at 11:03 PM
Anonymous said...
why cheat a FREE game and also why make other record holders sad
I think it explains how not to cheat. Nicolas, I'm not saying you're not doing your job well enough, but before you go to such drastic measures as the prohibition .google
November 12, 2011 at 8:52 PM
Leila said...
I wonder what their secret is! Nobody even attempts to beat their record. These guys are unbelievable.
For those of you who aren't really fond of scores and speed runs and don't regularly follow our challenges ladder either, be advised that there was some huge changes recently. During the last months, the scores were somewhat freezed and nothing changed significantly. But a newcomer appeared two week ago and now, he's slowly crushing every score, beating 10 time trials out of 14.
As you can see, Stimich seems to know how to think with portals more than anyone else. This run is particularly impressive. If you think you can stand up to him, feel free to try, but I think we reached some physical limits around these scores. I don't think someone will be able to do much better, apart if we're talking about some bots playing Portal: Prelude, of course.
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Close this window Jump to comment formWow that guy's just flying
I'm not going to say he's a cheater, but that backwards bunny hop glitch seems really weird. Or is that something you guys stuck into your version?
June 23, 2009 at 4:03 AM
Wow! I kept seeing posts from him on the forum RSS feed, but I never really realized he had beaten this many records.
Also, was the title of this post intended to be a Super Smash Bros. reference?
Anyway, congratulations to Stimich.
June 23, 2009 at 4:41 AM
great stuff...!
June 23, 2009 at 9:08 PM
These guys are sick... Can't really imagine how to do the same 0_0
June 26, 2009 at 8:12 AM
@vect:
Rest assured that we can't do it either :D
June 26, 2009 at 6:35 PM
http://www.portalprelude.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1057 - I believe that explains how he didn't cheat. Nicolas, I'm not saying you're not doing your work thoroughly enough, but before you go to such drastic measures as BANNING I think you should check out the possibilities. I was at Stimich's house when he got one of his records. What I noticed was that the only program/app he had running was steam. I also noticed that he actually beat the record with his bear hands. Use source recorder yourself and tell me how the end result will become.
June 29, 2009 at 5:57 AM
It makes me so sad when people do things like this. :'(
June 29, 2009 at 8:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1u6o3ZusdA
June 29, 2009 at 3:25 PM
just a thought.
If he's been caught cheating and banned etc, shouldnt this be snipped out cos technically he doesnt deserve the credit and praise being given in this thread?
July 25, 2009 at 5:41 AM
These guys are freaking sick... Still can't get it how do they manage it 0_0
Very dope
July 31, 2009 at 7:33 AM
Well... few and raw things: I think you're taking your moderator's job too seriously, RELAX MAN.
Then, He did a 13sec and you can find it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKbRMrLWvKw go and watch all 9 minutes.
Finally: still saying that's a cheater, I'll still to think that you are a sad unskilled person.
Sincerly, L.C. AKA Xcava86X
October 19, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Nicolas, speaking as an outsider*, I'm near 100% sure that you and your group of friends fucked up with the Stimich case. Among other things, you chose to cover your eyes and stay ignorant. And yes, I've read the threads on the forums and examined some of the videos myself.
(*)I played Portal a year ago, know about the time trials and Stimich through Youtube. Fast forward 1 year, I heard news about Portal 2, came back and search around then found out about this whole fiasco.
P.S. Looks like it's been a long time, Stimich and everyone have already moved on. But oh well I already wrote the comment, would be a waste to not post it.
March 15, 2010 at 1:33 AM
The debunking could be a complete farce if the the original video signal was changed due to compression or something lag related on the machine it was captured on.
Fraps constantly drops frames and modifies the speeds based on the intensity of the game and processor load. Sometimes a processor-intensive area of the game can cause Fraps to slow down from a locked standard such as PAL or NTSC (24 or 29.97 perhaps 30 frames per second) and drop around 4 to 10 frames which causes a visual lag on the output video since the spaced frames are stretched for timing or removed completely.
If his processor was lagging at the time you should see multiple frames of video that are exactly alike in the spots where lag occurred.
Although rare, sometimes bad compression can cause a "jittery" motion on playback, which in lieu of frames 1, 2, 3, and 4 being played in sucsession, they are played as 1,2,1,3,2,4,2,3,4 etc. which produces the jittery effect. I'm not sure what causes this, perhaps bad codec support, but it's very uncommon.
I'm not defending anyone I'm just trying to supply some facts.
May 20, 2010 at 11:03 PM
why cheat a FREE game and also why
make other record holders sad
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I think it explains how not to cheat. Nicolas, I'm not saying you're not doing your job well enough, but before you go to such drastic measures as the prohibition .google
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I wonder what their secret is! Nobody even attempts to beat their record. These guys are unbelievable.
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