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"Image from Trump tweet identified as imagery by USA 224, a classified KH-11 ENHANCED CRYSTAL satellite"

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Blogger Unknown said...

Excellent analysis. Ridiculous abuse of power.

1/9/19 19:02

Blogger Richard Aubrey said...

The leak referred to was thirty five years ago. I presume the enhancements are substantial since then. But I recall people saying, during the Cold War, that we didn't have to worry; we have satellites which could read a license plate. IOW, no need for SDI. Not sure why that was supposed to follow.
I guess the question can go two ways; Do we get an advantage when our opponents don't know how good our resources are? Or do we get an advantage when our opponents know how badly they're outclassed?
IOW, have we followed the construction of some underground nuke facilities to the point we know where the ventilation shaft exits? Can we put something into the ventilation shaft? However slick they are, we have them by the shorts. So maybe they should quit bothering.

1/9/19 22:31

Blogger Russ Calvert said...

The analysis of the eccentricity of the ellipse in the image overlooks the angle at which the original photograph was photographed. The eccentricity of the ellipse in the image is a (rather complex) combination of the angle at which the site was photographed by the satellite and the angle at which the original photograph was photographed.

2/9/19 04:42

Blogger SatTrackCam Leiden said...

Russ, you make a very valid point. But I suspect the introduced error is small as normally you would aim to keep the camera perpendicular to the paper you are photographing.
the good match between the real image and the simulated satellite view also bears this out.

2/9/19 09:14

Blogger Manish said...

Fabulous analysis, no doubt! Also, I guess, Trump tweeted a picture of the picture to lower the quality and hide the very facts which you've described in detail. I guess, they need to do better.

2/9/19 13:44

Blogger mbs said...

So, basically, the information they considered worthy of redaction is the exact information that you and many others were able to ascertain almost instantly? Lol, that’s pretty dope.

Also, nitpicking, but wouldn’t the camera be parallel and not perpendicular to the photograph? Could be wrong, just curious.

Either way, amazing and fascinating work!

2/9/19 19:31

Blogger stratocruiser said...

" It points out that some deliberate thought was given to the release of this image, before it was tweeted)."
Or that some deliberate thought was given before it was shown to the Tweeter-in-Chief?

2/9/19 21:44

Blogger Sparrow 7 said...

More abuse from the person who posted this. Now everyone knows what satellite and when thanks for leaking info on that! You just beat the POTUS for dumbass award!

3/9/19 00:02

Blogger thexfile said...

Trump is stupid. He's like a 7 year old.

3/9/19 02:13

Blogger Richard Lewis ll said...

5 year old

3/9/19 02:24

Blogger Unknown said...

Trump knows exactly what hes doing. He's a genius and has you all fooled. I love it.

3/9/19 02:32

Blogger Richard Lewis ll said...

Is this a way to inform Putin what we have? Or maybe N. KOREA.Trump cares less about our security more less about Americans and more about what goes into his pocket.

3/9/19 02:36

Blogger 1979relationshipguy said...

Tump is a dumbass the consequences of this are not yet fully known but now Russia and China are fully aware of what the USA satellites are observing. What Trump really wants is for the USA to fall apart so that somehow he can line his pockets with more money and exacerbate income inequality in the USA....meanwhile all the stupid rednecks continue their blind support for Trump....who is actually ripping them off

3/9/19 11:11

Blogger AKA Maureen said...

Sparrow7: Don’t you think that other countries military agencies could do the same thing? It was not necessary for tRumputin to release this unless, as many people say and I think Melania would agree with me, he is a Russian asset

3/9/19 11:33

Blogger Fred Stam said...

Marco gefeliciteerd met dit artikel, ik begrijp echter een ding niet. Je spreekt over sinus maar je deelt de overstaande rechthoekzijde door de aanliggende,ik heb vroeger geleerd dat dat de tangens is.Sin = overstaande / schuine, cos = aanliggende / schuine rechthoekzijde. Het zal voor de berekening niet veel uitmaken maar ik ben even kwijt wat jouw sinus dan is?Verder top artikel.

3/9/19 16:19

Blogger CounterPoint said...

The idea that any of this is super secret information is hilarious. You think the Russians, Chinese, AND Iranians don't know about this satellite or what its capabilities are? Get real. And if you think this image is good quality you don't know squat. The satellite in question was launched nearly a decade ago, which means the satellite is older than that, and the technology used to build it older than that. Personally I've seen better imagery on google maps. Trump tweeted this image (after declassifying it) to rub Iran's nose in their little gamble. Now everyone knows they're trying to build ICBM's (while calling it a space vehicle launch... just like the North Koreans did). This helps him sway our allies who have their heads in the sand on Iran. It reveals nothing that's not already known about the satellite (or do you all think you're super duper spies and the first to ever look at a satellite moving around the planet?).

3/9/19 19:52

Blogger Unknown said...

it's absurd to think this sat. just happened to be in the vicinity exactly at the time of this failed launch without any planning, and total control by NASA or the AF. Iran is acting up again and needs to be wiped off the earth before they wipe out a tiny country in their purview.

4/9/19 03:43

Blogger Unknown said...

Trump is simple-minded, immature, white trash. Most of his followers are the same. His followers finally can be proud of being morons, and Mr. Trump is their king.

4/9/19 05:17

Blogger Kevin Bostic said...

covfefe

4/9/19 07:58

Blogger Sid 6.7 said...

If amateurs can deduce the particulars of this image from readily available, public sources, then a nation-state intelligence apparatus would have no difficulty in arriving at the same conclusions. Nothing in this blog rises to the level of disclosure of national intelligence methods/sources as the original tweet. And just because one might have the ultimate legal right to disclose, doesn't mean one should.

4/9/19 18:53

Blogger Sid 6.7 said...

Honest question: Does POTUS have a specific procedure to follow when he decides to declassify intelligence products? Or does his tweeting the intelligence automatically constitute declassification? In other words, does he give a verbal and/or written authorization to declassify prior to disclosure, or does the IC find out its declassified only after its been posted?

4/9/19 19:02

Blogger Interested Amature said...

With regard to the obsevation that Russ Calvert mentioned with regard to the possible angle of the phone used to copy the original image, there is a bright, sort of washed out area in the center of the image which may be a reflection of the flash back into the camera. This would imply, at least to me, the the phone camera(?) that took the picture of the image had to have been near centered over the original image if the brightened area is from a flash relection. My two cents worth at least!

7/9/19 04:39

Blogger Pieter said...

About that possible angle of the phone... It is easy to take away that effect, by checking the 'squareness' of the text boxes and -if needed- correcting it. The deformation of the picture by the angle of the phone is the same for those boxes as for the rest of the picture.

You can check how big this error is. It seems indeed very small to me.

9/9/19 10:33

Blogger someone older than thirteen said...

KH-11 satellites were created and launched in the 70's... there's no reasonable person who would believe this gives anything away about the optical capabilities of the United States.

11/9/19 06:03

Blogger SatTrackCam Leiden said...

Answer to the comment above:
USA 224 was launched in 2011. The KH-11 of today certainly are not the same KH-11 as those of the late seventies - they'll have technological improvements. The KH-11 today are the PRIME optical reconnaissance assets of the NRO. So yes, contrary to your assertion this *does* give information away about the optical capabilities of the United States - as far as we know, there is no better system on orbit.

11/9/19 11:09

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