tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post744432554419757086..comments2008-09-10T15:10:43.886-04:00Christinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04512238899184204109noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-26152179305467952602008-09-10T15:10:00.000-04:002008-09-10T15:10:00.000-04:00<I>It's normality is a value judgment.</I><BR/><BR/>No it's not. It's statistically normal. A certain percentage of the population is going to be homosexual, regardless of place or time, in our species and hundreds of others. Just happens, get over it.<BR/><BR/>JimKJimKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13851926934487872344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-9897936390146586032008-09-10T14:45:00.000-04:002008-09-10T14:45:00.000-04:00It's normality is a value judgment.<BR/><BR/>But I like your idea that homosexuality should have to follow the same rules as religious belief.<BR/><BR/>That would be preferable to the current situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-16384725048350168572008-09-10T14:38:00.000-04:002008-09-10T14:38:00.000-04:00Homosexuality <I>is</I> normal. <BR/><BR/>Who says homosexuality is normal? Every major medical and mental health professional organization consisting of hundreds of thousands of medical professionals. The few folks at NARTH disagree.<BR/><BR/>Get over yourself, Anonhole. You and NARTH are the outliers.Aunt Beanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-59806526555195087042008-09-10T10:46:00.000-04:002008-09-10T10:46:00.000-04:00"There are indeed Bible classes taught in public schools all over America."<BR/><BR/>These are objective, CTBS. They don't make a value judgment but merely examine the historical and cultural impact. They don't advance religion except in the sense that the facts tend to.<BR/><BR/>The MCPS curriculum, however, slants and selects facts in order to promote the view that homosexuality is normal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-36323773484401505272008-09-10T10:23:00.000-04:002008-09-10T10:23:00.000-04:00<I>there aren't curriculums [sic] in schools that push a religious agenda</I><BR/><BR/>Do you ever come out from under the cover of your isolation cell to see things as they are in the real world? <BR/><BR/>There are indeed <A HREF="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Bible+classes%2C+public+schools%2C+USA&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=" REL="nofollow">Bible classes</A> taught in public schools all over America.<BR/><BR/>Just like MCPS's 90 minutes of sex ed that cover "Respect for Differences in Human Sexuality," they are optional, not required. <BR/><BR/>Is parental permission required for Bible classes like it is for MCPS sex ed?Aunt Beanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-5713142056912899322008-09-10T09:45:00.000-04:002008-09-10T09:45:00.000-04:00Mr/Mrs./Ms./Dr. Anonymous:<BR/>Every time you spout off in here you are merely reinforcing what we all already know about you: you are a LOSER!<BR/>DiogenesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-29865772879166438322008-09-10T08:22:00.000-04:002008-09-10T08:22:00.000-04:00"So did y'all decide to look for an activist judge?"<BR/><BR/>No, we're looking for one that supports democracy.<BR/><BR/>TTF and their unseemly band of buddies have decided there are issues that are beyond democracy.<BR/><BR/>Like, whether you have to hang out with guys who wear dresses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-81579664120186660892008-09-10T08:19:00.000-04:002008-09-10T08:19:00.000-04:00CBTS<BR/><BR/>Religion has protection but is restricted. For example, there aren't curriculums in schools that push a religious agenda the way there are curriculums that push the gay agenda.<BR/><BR/>Should we treat homosexuality like religion?<BR/><BR/>Let us know your certain-to-be inane thoughts on the subject.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-45393967804785576582008-09-10T07:52:00.000-04:002008-09-10T07:52:00.000-04:00<I>No one, except gays and trangenders, has the right to protection from social ostracism based on their feelings and behavior.</I><BR/><BR/>That is absolutely false. First, we don't have "social ostracism" laws, we have anti-discrimination laws. Second, religion is based on feelings and leads to behaviors.<BR/><BR/>Religious people are granted protection from discrimination in employment, housing, and some basic services, even adherents who choose to dress in their own religious costume whether a burqua, yarmulke, habit, etc. And some religious behaviors are exempted from laws other people must follow. For example, cops won't arrest a member of the clergy for offering wine to underage teens as a part of a religious ceremony. And don't get me started on the special exemptions from laws the rest of us operate under for <A HREF="http://www.masskids.org/dbre/dbre_8.html" REL="nofollow">Christian Scientists.</A> Those laws are anything <I>but</I> pro-special needs kids. <BR/><BR/>Nope sorry Anon, adherents of religion are another group that has, as you say, <I>"the right to protection from social ostracism based on their feelings and behavior."</I><BR/><BR/><I>denied their rights by activist judges</I><BR/><BR/>Funny, when the CRC won against the Board of Ed, and when the Court of Appeals ruled against civil marriage, the Anonymi thought the judges were reasonable, even wise. Now that their spawn the CRG has lost in 2008, suddenly they're back to lamenting "activist judges." <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.gazette.net/stories/09092008/montnew154120_32532.shtml" REL="nofollow">The Gazette reported</A> <I>Maryland CRG planned to meet Tuesday to discuss its next steps. That could include a lawsuit against the county elections board, Smith said. <BR/>"I think we would have to wait and see," Jacobs said of a lawsuit.</I><BR/><BR/>So did y'all decide to look for an activist judge?Aunt Beanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-89343012420339164432008-09-09T22:08:00.000-04:002008-09-09T22:08:00.000-04:00"You have absolutely not one shred of evidence, not one, that the voters of Montgomery County would vote to deny fellow citizens their rights and the protection of the law."<BR/><BR/>I never said they would. Transgenders, however, don't have more rights than anyone else. They receive the same protection as everyone else. Always have in Montgomery County.<BR/><BR/>No one, except gays and trangenders, has the right to protection from social ostracism based on their feelings and behavior. If you want to be free, you have to accept that some people might not like what you do with your freedom.<BR/><BR/>It's life. <BR/><BR/>Don't miss out on it.<BR/><BR/>As for what proof I have about how the voters would have voted were they not denied their rights by activist judges, the grand efforts of lunatic fringe groups like TTF and EM speak as loud as anything. If they were convinced they wouldn't win without some vigorous and expensive campaign, it's obvious they knew the voters would reject the gay agenda. <BR/><BR/>Right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-5482788949649588932008-09-09T20:52:00.000-04:002008-09-09T20:52:00.000-04:00Anonymous Troll: <BR/>You have absolutely not one shred of evidence, not one, that the voters of Montgomery County would vote to deny fellow citizens their rights and the protection of the law. ("The voters don't agree with them. A major effort would have to be made to convince them."..."You know quite well the citizens of MC would approve that referendum with gusto!")<BR/> <BR/>All you can rely on to make such asinine statements is your own parochial analysis of the few voters in your own clique, laughably called "Citizens for Responsible Government" (sic.) - hardly evidence of any mass movement by the majority of voters in M.C. who have, repeatedly - over and over and over - soundly rejected your hateful and disgraceful view of people who happen, even dare, to be different from you and your narrow world.<BR/><BR/>Just because you apparently have thousands of dollars supplied by outside wacko, fundamentalist, so-called "Christian" groups to squander on your disgraceful campaign is no evidence that you have any support for your weird world-view in Montgomery County.<BR/>Give it up...you LOST - again!<BR/>DiogenesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-80569989371182683192008-09-09T18:51:00.000-04:002008-09-09T18:51:00.000-04:00The reason you would have to spend "thousands and thousands of dollars" is because TTF is wrong.<BR/><BR/>The voters don't agree with them. <BR/><BR/>A major effort would have to be made to convince them.<BR/><BR/>Deception of the nature TTF participates in is expensive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-86689032478049625772008-09-09T18:44:00.000-04:002008-09-09T18:44:00.000-04:00I am now thinking about the thousands and thousands of dollars that will be put to better use than having to fight the spurious, ignorant, and bigoted claims of the wing-nut, reactionary, and hateful CRGers. That, my dear Troll, is why we celebrate the sane court decision, not your distorted and deluded snarky remark: "You know quite well the citizens of MC would approve that referendum with gusto!<BR/>It's the only reasonable explanation for your strident opposition."<BR/>You are in obvious need of psychiatric assistance....or maybe better yet, you need to pray away your mental illness, perhaps with a little help from that infamous church in Wassila, Alaska.<BR/>CitizenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-18113996206741015552008-09-09T17:53:00.000-04:002008-09-09T17:53:00.000-04:00Then, why not make that clear by putting it to a vote?<BR/><BR/>That would shut those "bigots" up.<BR/><BR/>Face it, your fears, in this case, are based on reality.<BR/><BR/>You know quite well the citizens of MC would approve that referendum with gusto!<BR/><BR/>It's the only reasonable explanation for your strident opposition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-74158003539668709852008-09-09T15:08:00.000-04:002008-09-09T15:08:00.000-04:00We knew we'd win the vote because only the handful of shower nuts would ever vote IN FAVOR OF DISCRIMINATION here in Montgomery County.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-79799876950197933772008-09-09T14:50:00.000-04:002008-09-09T14:50:00.000-04:00"You are totally out of touch with the ethos and morality of the vast majority of citizens in Montgomery County."<BR/><BR/>Actually, this whole episode has made it quite clear who fears "the vast majority of citizens in Montgomery County".<BR/><BR/>Those who fought to deny the right of citizens to vote on this issue.<BR/><BR/>You guys knew who would win the vote and that the courtroom was your only shot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-51749649180305818942008-09-09T13:46:00.000-04:002008-09-09T13:46:00.000-04:00Andrea<BR/>I just went to the Showernut website and they had photos of the county fair - "bubbles attracted many families to our booth". they also had sheep( but here I refer to the actual animal- not the showernut followers). I was looking for their take on this. Maybe they can all pack up now and move to Idaho or AlaskaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-51117431034482523792008-09-09T13:33:00.000-04:002008-09-09T13:33:00.000-04:00OMG...what will those "activist" judges do next? Perhaps continue to knock down efforts to deny minority members of our communities<BR/>their basic human and civil rights?<BR/>Or uphold the Constitution and the laws of the land?<BR/>Mr./Mrs./Ms./Dr. Anonymous...once again your prognostications have fallen very short of the mark. You are totally out of touch with the ethos and morality of the vast majority of citizens in Montgomery County. Perhaps you might consider moving to Alaska?<BR/>American CitizenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-86381000143285094842008-09-09T12:37:00.000-04:002008-09-09T12:37:00.000-04:00Look! The judges believe in the Law!<BR/><BR/>This is great news. Truth, once again, has won.Derricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-70883349097599519932008-09-09T12:29:00.000-04:002008-09-09T12:29:00.000-04:00MARYLAND HIGH COURT THROWS OUT REFERENDUM PETITION THAT ATTEMPTED TO OVERTURN A TRANSGENDER ANTI-DISCRIMINATION LAW<BR/><BR/><BR/> (Annapolis, September 9, 2008) - Today, the Maryland Court of Appeals ruled that an inadequate referendum petition to block a unanimously enacted transgender protection law may not go on the ballot for the November general election, and the law must be allowed to go into effect. The high court reversed the decision of a Montgomery County Circuit Court judge, who had previously ruled that the referendum effort to overturn the law should be allowed on the November ballot, despite the acknowledgement that the petition did not carry the legally required number of signatures. Today's ruling by the high court is the final word on the fate of the referendum.<BR/><BR/> <BR/>AndreaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-48227824217007436422008-09-09T12:11:00.000-04:002008-09-09T12:11:00.000-04:00Why would the judges side with TTF?<BR/><BR/>Maybe it is because they believe in the Constitution of the United States of America. All men are created equal. Ever think of that?<BR/><BR/>All these hate-mongering anti-gay activist judges don´t take law into consideration, they only use bigotry as their form of direction.<BR/><BR/>I am pretty sure that would be a pincipal reason.Derricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-89445903818514131712008-09-09T11:46:00.000-04:002008-09-09T11:46:00.000-04:00Trolls of the world unite!Robertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-61494758403113512672008-09-09T09:55:00.000-04:002008-09-09T09:55:00.000-04:00Welcome to the "Anonymous Troll Blog Site"! This individual now controls this discussion site. "Vigilence" no longer exists! Long live liberalism!! :-(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-85631395669433509672008-09-09T07:25:00.000-04:002008-09-09T07:25:00.000-04:00Media bias continues. Washington Post this morning finally reports, after two days, that the presidential race has shifted. In reporting that McCain now leads by two points among likley voters, however, the headline is "McCain Closes Gap with Obama." How about "McCain Takes Lead Among Likely Voters"?<BR/><BR/>That would have been more accurate.<BR/><BR/>The interesting part, though, is the woman's vote. TTF blowhard, preya of canada, has said here that the selection of Sarah Palin has backfired on McCain. According to the Post's polling, Obama led among white women by eight points before McCain selected his VP and now McCain leads by 12 among this group.<BR/><BR/>Wow! That's a 20 point swing!!<BR/><BR/>Rather than backfire, the Palin pick was frontfire on the Dems and it scored a direct hit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9797121.post-6008958597493417842008-09-08T22:03:00.000-04:002008-09-08T22:03:00.000-04:00reports out tonight that Wayne Besen is saying that Palin better say you can't pray away your gay-<BR/><BR/>or else!<BR/><BR/>That oughta scare the heck outta her!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com