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Pretty good post. Economists think they have such ...

2007-06-20T12:08:00.000-06:00

Pretty good post. Economists think they have such a hard time explaining how higher prices for gasoline are the result of a 'free market'. They didn't have any problem explaining to farmers that low prices were the result of 'free markets', and that we had too many small farms. It's time we realize we just have too many economists.
Most people drive to work to jobs that don't do anything useful so that they can afford a car to drive to work.
Half the cars on the road should be immediately parked, and the other half should be HOV. Welcome to the short-lived age of Descent.

While I appreciate the market forces responsible f...

2007-06-12T14:17:00.000-06:00

While I appreciate the market forces responsible for prices, do you think some steps should be taken to prevent "gaming" of the system, or artificially reducing supply to incease prices (ie suspiciously being forced to close refineries or pipelines nearing a peak period)? Absent those steps, what is preventing companies from manipulating the market?

actually, it's already been conceived for us.The S...

2007-05-09T11:38:00.000-06:00

actually, it's already been conceived for us.

The Smart Jitney: Rapid, Realistic Transport

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It's awfully difficult to conceive or (or implemen...

2007-05-09T10:36:00.000-06:00

It's awfully difficult to conceive or (or implement) a mass transit system or strategy that could daily satisfy a couple hundred-million unique start locations, crossed with another hundred-million unique destinations - which is what the automobile provides.

Not without a radical reworking of housing, communities, lifestyles, expectations, and on and on...

I do advocate investment in mass transit solutions...

2007-05-09T07:41:00.000-06:00

I do advocate investment in mass transit solutions, but more as a stop-gap to radical relocalization of production, along with rezoning to create pockets of density to make walking/bicycling possible. And your point that people *have* been gouged by past policies is well taken.

I realize that most people "think" they don't have a choice about driving--the truth is, the demand elasticity for driving is just very, very low, but it is there. Even people with no equity in an exurban home with a commuter job downtown that is the only way to have a hope in the world of making their mortgage payment have a choice. It might not be a very palatable choice, but given the geological reality of oil production that is about to smack Americans in the face, it might be the most palatable of realistic choices. My personal opinion is that, for many if not most, alternatives and stop-gaps (such as mass transit) either won't come in time, or will never replace our current dependence on gasoline.

Yeah, about that "don't drive" comment. Most peopl...

2007-05-09T00:03:00.000-06:00

Yeah, about that "don't drive" comment. Most people don't have a choice outside the large cities with good public transit in the East Coast. There are pretty strong limits to how much someone can change their fuel consumption levels. Millions of people can't afford to buy a new car, move closer to work or find a job closer to home, etc. The perception of being "gouged" comes from feeling that they don't have a choice.

So don't be so cavalier in condemning the populist cries. They aren't being gouged by the immediate situation, maybe. But they're being gouged by the urban development policies promoted by government, industry and developers for decades and written into every roads budget.

Don't know the rest of your positions, just found your site through another weblog. Do you also recommend real investment in stronger municipal transit, so that people do have the choice not to drive? Better bus lines, light rail? Even something to promote carpooling?