tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8444401.post116344342850573429..comments2008-12-12T20:10:40.419-06:00birdchickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05751235120097847798noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8444401.post-35559546674890134692006-11-15T01:44:00.000-06:002006-11-15T01:44:00.000-06:00Heck, if just hearing a bird counts, I got the whip-poor-will 25-30 years ago! I heard them all the time when I was a kid.<br /><br />~Other SharonhellZiggynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8444401.post-45706882786785936842006-11-14T20:59:00.000-06:002006-11-14T20:59:00.000-06:00Hey, HellZiggy, that's a good question with a short and long answer:<br /><br />Short answer is that a life bird is a new bird that you are seeing in the wild for the first time.<br /><br />Long answer: There are certain rules that can be followed like the American Birding Associations rules or American Ornithologist Rules or even your own personal rules. Generally, birds seen in unnatural situations like zoos or pet birds are not considered "countable" but if you're going by your own rules--have at it. Some lists allow you to count birds that you hear as well as see--which is handy if you are trying to get that lifer whip-poor-will. <br /><br />The aplomado falcon is south Texas is arguably not countable on some lists because it's part of a reintroduction program and it's a question of whether or not they are now a sustainable population. <br /><br />Here's a link to the ABA listing rules if you are curious:<br /><br />http://www.americanbirding.org/resources/reslistru2.htmbirdchickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05751235120097847798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8444401.post-35380735521543198882006-11-14T16:57:00.000-06:002006-11-14T16:57:00.000-06:00When you talk about life birds, what exactly does that mean? <br />Is it the first time you see a specific bird out in the wild? I'm assuming that zoos & people's pets and such don't count?<br /><br />And Cinnamon? I'd never forget you! <br /><br />~Other SharonhellZiggyhttp://hellziggy.livejournal.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8444401.post-51911686760824351122006-11-14T07:39:00.000-06:002006-11-14T07:39:00.000-06:00Is the aplomado still uncountable by the ABA? I thought they were countable by there standards now? Isn't it a sustainable population? <br /><br />Ah well, I do not follow ABA guidelines. I follow my own.birdchickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05751235120097847798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8444401.post-4572004682253726152006-11-14T07:29:00.000-06:002006-11-14T07:29:00.000-06:00and yet, it is unlistable...if you follow ABA rules.<br /><br />Yes, but,....all together now..<br /><br />"It's your list."Steve H.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00504002929335747445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8444401.post-62197347502904337572006-11-14T07:07:00.000-06:002006-11-14T07:07:00.000-06:00I guess that makes Cinnamon Chad Lowebirdchickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05751235120097847798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8444401.post-53146122545352095442006-11-14T07:03:00.000-06:002006-11-14T07:03:00.000-06:00I have to agree with Kathi on the Cinnamon thing... :)Patrick Belardohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01303946668551674393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8444401.post-1163462274678985142006-11-13T17:57:00.000-06:002006-11-13T17:57:00.000-06:00And you didn't thank Cinnamon? How <I>could</I> you forget her? I know, I know - they were playing the "Get off the stage" music and you had to go.<BR/><BR/>Glad you got such good birds. I am jealous of the Barn Owl. I have only seen them in captivity.<BR/><BR/>Aren't birders the best people?<BR/><BR/>~KathiKatDocnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8444401.post-1163459260098577582006-11-13T17:07:00.000-06:002006-11-13T17:07:00.000-06:00I'm all verklempt!Amyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01905578836007433209noreply@blogger.com