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The Media Center (or in UK Centre!) is nothing mor...

2006-08-13T14:57:00.000-07:00

The Media Center (or in UK Centre!) is nothing more than a reskin + cablecard support. No support for MHEG services in UK, Europe and Australia meaning interactive services and digital text support is STILL not going to be available under vista despite the broadcasters giving MS all the info they need! I usually defend Microsoft, but unless they pull a rabiit out of the hat, Vista MC is not worth upgrading to in the territories mentioned unless you were getting a higher spec machine anyway. Now we have Messenger and CallerID support removed. The whole thing is in turmoil and quite frankly Microsoft deserve to have failed with MCE in Europe et all because they have missed the boat YET AGAIN by REALISING that Europe does things different to the US and were first ! Vista MC won't be the mainstream replacement - why would it be ? All the broadcast services are supported by the broadcasters own set top boxes and pvr's. They also work reliably, in that they dont crash or have random black screens etc on standby resume. If they have any sense, they will delay Vista OR commit and promise that a major MC update giving functionality is released within 6 months or by SP1.

"People love to see photos of themselves", Thomas ...

2006-08-11T05:55:00.000-07:00

"People love to see photos of themselves", Thomas says.

Well, I have to disagree. I hate seeing myself at photos, anywhere.

Otherwise, I agree. Showing photos on the TV is a killer application for Media Center.

Microsoft will never win the push into the living ...

2006-08-09T19:10:00.000-07:00

Microsoft will never win the push into the living room with the media PC. They will never make a simple, elegant solution. Only techies will go through the cumbersome task of setting up the perfect system.

One reason is their lack of control over hardware. They have influence over the market, but can't make a seamlessly integrated media PC.

The other reason is the poor quality of their software. And I don't just mean bugs and lack of security. They're making flashy designs instead of intuitive ones. They make software that says, "Hey! Look what I can do!" instead of, "Let me work with you to get the job done."

The only reason Apple hasn't already created the living room multimedia PC market is because they haven't tried. They made the basis of the software and soon it'll come with every new Apple. Once Apple includes a few more features and they see a little interest they'll push the idea steadily into the minds of the average consumer. They're preparing while they know the time isn't quite right.

I think that you need to add CableCARD to your lis...

2006-08-09T17:10:00.000-07:00

I think that you need to add CableCARD to your list, Thomas.

PVR functionality is one of the main sellling points for an MCE machine, and it simply can't compete in that arena yet. We've been waiting eons for the ability to descramble digital cable and premium content (like HBO and Pay Per View). It's hard to sell someone on the idea of a home theater PC that can't compete with the shitty PVR they're renting from their cable company when it comes to recording TV. I spent $1,000 dollars on this thing. I'd like to turn past channel 99, please.

Of course, I'm already hooked. I've been using an MCE PC for about a year and a half and I love it. I really get a kick out of watching my houseguest's jaws hit the floor when I show them what it can do. I really enjoy watching recorded TV on my Xbox extender in my bedroom. That said, it's extremely unfortunate that MCE has been hobbled by this for so long. It's a fantastic piece of software that does a lot of great things, but personal video recording is the cornerstone that MCE is built on. Without CableCARD, it just limps out of the gate.

The promise of CableCARD 1.0 with Vista is a step in the right direction, but even that has its own issues. It locks the do-it-yourself market out, requiring home HTPC builders to buy a brand new system which will still lack many of the PVR features found in cable boxes today. (CableCARD 1.0 lacks the two-way comunication supported by the newer 2.0 standard, which is currently unsupported by Vista.) Ars Technica has a good write up on this here:

The living room PC: it's not a myth, it's a mess

I'm looking forward to the Vista Media Center, but I don't think that it will be everything it's cracked up to be without some serious CableCARD 2.0 support. Given their (MS and CableCARD's) track record, that's doubtful.

Of course, IPTV could change all that. Perhaps this is why MS is so interested in the technology.

I don't think the future of the living room is a t...

2006-08-09T11:24:00.000-07:00

I don't think the future of the living room is a tv in your living room connected to a set-top computer in your living room connected to a computer in your office. Too cumbersome and inconvenient for most people, even if it is plug and play. The future of the living room is a tv in your living room connected to a set-top computer in your living room. I suspect Apple gets this and will be on top of the TV set soon.

Ok.Jeremiah. Yes, you've got it right. People wa...

2006-08-09T09:30:00.000-07:00

Ok.

Jeremiah. Yes, you've got it right. People want convergence. They just want it easily and attractively.

Russell, definitely wait. No sense in not with Vista so close.

Vern, Microsoft's already got you. Just like they already got me. But we are a small segment of the market. We are early adopter tech geeks and we actually want our TV *more* complicated. We love tinkering. Mainstream users don't. So they don't really need to market to us with living room PCs so much. We're a given. They need to figure out how to get the rest of the world.

Anonymous. I'm sure that there are good wireless keyboard/mouse combos. Personally I've gone wired right now because with four kids at home I'd never find my wireless mouse if I had it in the living room. I can barely keep the remote around as it is now.

Matt, yes, computers *are* too complex. But people have been willing to embrace them anyways for the home office/den. They don't want to for their TV, but they will make the tradeoff for a PC that does their more traditional PC functions in their den. The key is to convince people that it's then one simple step further to loop an XBox 360 into the equation and begin getting HDTV in their living room.

Microsoft of course needs to make this set up very very easy and simple, plug and play, and of course they do need to keep working at making the PC less complex overall in general.

I have a few comments on your post:re: "So why hav...

2006-08-09T08:34:00.000-07:00

I have a few comments on your post:

re: "So why have living room PC based entertainment systems not taken off yet? There are three simple reasons for this. 1. People think computers are too complex. 2. People don't want a big, bulky PC in their living room. and 3. The software for the living room PC is not quite ready. " -------- I think #1 should say "Computers are too complex". When most people can't figure out where to plug the cables on a regular DVR, anything beyond that is too complex.

re: "Who wants to spend $1,000 buying a new PC just for the living room?" -------- But, also, who wants to spend this much for something that won't deal with HD or with external set-top boxes very well? It's a bad value proposition for someone interested in high quality audio/video.

And something else... my modest Media Center PC uses over 100W of electricity when idle, and uses this amount 24 x 7. This means that my Media Center uses more electricity every month than does my household fridge -- more than 50% more! Put more simply, I spend $10/month to power my Media Center, while a set-top DVR uses drastically less.

Is there a wireless keyboard with good range and g...

2006-08-08T17:52:00.000-07:00

Is there a wireless keyboard with good range and good battery life? I don't want to sit close to the TV.

While I agree that there are probably more people ...

2006-08-08T17:05:00.000-07:00

While I agree that there are probably more people who DON'T want the PC in the living room, I am one of the ones who DOES.

I don't now nor have I ever owned a gaming console.
Unless you count that Atari 28 years ago.

I have a PC in my living room now that, unless you think about it, doesn't stand out at all. If I had a cabinet to hide it and the cable boxes in, it would be a no-brainer.

One of the biggest reasons I would never want the type of configuration you are referring to is this; stability. If the tv is fed from a personal computer used as a workstation, it's entirely possible, and quite likely, that it will have problems often associated with PCs, such as virii or spyware, cirrupted registry, etc. If the box just sits and records tv and plays movies, the chances of those problems are reduced to next to nothing.

Another reason; drive space. I want my media center to have as much drive space as the motherboard will accomodate. As of right now, mine will accomodate 5250 GB. (7*750GB drives plus DVD drive). It doesn't HAVE that much, but I would LIKE it to.

And you know what, it's not even that powerful. It's only an AMD Athlon XP 1600 (1.40GHz) w/ 640MB RAM. Runs like a champ recording tv. It also has ripped dvds on it using My Movies. Last time I looked, I had nearly 500 movies in it.

Plus I have nearly 10,000 songs and well over 6,000 pictures.

But, as I said, I am more the exception than the rule, but I am being overlooked. The biggest reason I am looking forward to Vista is Softsled.

Vista is able to read the feeds provided by Windows Media Connect. Therefore, my low-power bedroom media center, if running Vista, can access all the stuff on my main Media Center in the living room. That would be nice.

I think Microsoft has moved mostly in the right direction, but I think they are ignoring the portion of users who are not afraid to have the PC right THERE, right under the television.

HDTV - CheckXBox - CheckZooomr - CheckPanodora - C...

2006-08-08T17:01:00.000-07:00

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I was looking at new PC's this weekend, and you just told me why I will wait until next spring.

I have a PC in my living room already - it's calle...

2006-08-08T16:17:00.000-07:00

I have a PC in my living room already - it's called a "TIVO".

I'm being a bit facetious ;)

TH, what I get from your post here seems to indicate you're talking more about convergence...in the sense that people want HDTV's, 360's, etc, but they also are willing to adopt convergence devices (streaming photos via Flickr! while hearing a customized playlist.)

Am I interpreting you correctly?

I fully agree with you re: the possibility of a ge...

2006-08-08T15:32:00.000-07:00

I fully agree with you re: the possibility of a genius marketing/packaging move here by microsoft. 3 years from now this could well be Microsoft's "iPod."

I'm an apple guy, and as such will be having to look for more creative solutions.

I like the slideshow idea, i may have to rearrange my photos to make that easily possible.

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