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Tips before and after you see a UFO

2009-11-30T19:51:00.032-05:00

UFOMM: Will be sailing into the Bermuda Triangle On a cruise till 12/19/09 will be back then Have a great Christmas and Chanuka.

There is one thing I know from my many years of reading on this subject, and that is, what a UFO witness should, and shouldn't do during, and after, a UFO sighting. Of course, most people don't plan on seeing a UFO, or if they do, never report it. But, for those who may

One important rule to remember is when you see a UFO alone it usually means nothing but a footnote in UFO history. The exception to this rule is when professionals, police, pilots, etc. experience unknown objects and report them. These trained professionals obviously carry more weight. Unfortunately, for the rest of us mortals, reporting a sighting may not get any real attention and may be dismissed as prosaic even though you're certain it was not. That can be rather frustrating if you really want to know what you saw.

Below I have some pointers to help you become more of a master of your sighting rather than having your sighting master you. I don't say that lightly either. There are many instances when people experience a UFO and their credibility and honesty were instantly challenged. For what you may ask? The answer is simple: because they saw a UFO. I know, thank God, there are people out there, individuals, who will stand up and report what they saw regardless of what other people may say or think.

If you see a UFO keep your head.
The problem with seeing a UFO is the event becomes so startling that the witnesses are not using their heads. They forget they have the means, in many instances, to prove the event really happened. I met a scientist on a cruise once. He had one previous experience. He told me once he witnessed "shiny spheres" shooting along the highway in front of his car. His wife and family didn't believe him. We became friends and he started to delve into UFOs. Now he is a strong supporter of the realities of UFOs. About 6 months after we met the whole family was in their car when they had a daylight sighting. His wife and family no longer doubts him. He called me on the phone right after the sighting. The important point here is they had a video camera and photo camera in the car but the shock of what he saw gave him total "UFO amnesia" and he forgot he had them. Photos and video are important, but nothing beats independent witnesses with their own evidence. So, if you see people watching the same object it would be very smart if you could exchange phone numbers with them, or at least get their numbers.
Write down all the information you can about the sighting before you report it.
Jot down all the specifics: the more detailed the better. Make sketches of the object: color, size, shape, and movement. Include also an estimate of the degree position the object in relation to the horizon and also compass directions. If it's at night take notes of any stars or planets near your sighting. Many phones now have compasses and make it possible to go on the web. You can use them to find not only the positions of the stars and planets, but also satellites, their times and positions.
Never lie or embellish your UFO sighting.
You never know how important your sighting will become and there are people out there in media just waiting to discredit you. If you think they are stupid you'd be making a big mistake. One of the great witnesses to Roswell known as the "Mortician" lied about names of the nurse and his story changed over the course of time. Although his original statement had been repeated many times in the town years before any publicity, his inconsistencies were fodder for the skeptics. It is perfectly understandable if a person wishes to hold back certain aspects of the sighting till that person is comfortable with his/her investigator. For years ranchers never spoke of seeing landed disk and entities, even though now they claim they had witnessed them during times of mutilations. They claimed they withheld that information because if they had said anything people would have thought they were crazy. Hey, you know something… they're right. My strong suggestion, in that case, is to be upfront with the investigator right away. State your position as plainly as possible; that you are not comfortable with sharing everything at this time. This will save you a great deal of grief if you decide to reveal it later on. I say this as a student of UFO history; it is the best way to go.
Report your sighting.
MUFON is the best place to report your sighting. They have some great field investigators and they have a much better system of tracking the progress of a case. As far as MUFON getting back to you quickly, the more MUFON investigators in your area the better chance you have of your case being looked at quickly. The other place to report a sighting is the National UFO Reporting Center. Although NUFORC will take your sighting they don't investigate. They will, however, notify MUFON if a report looks very interesting and or is part and parcel to other UFO sightings in the same area (flap).
There is a big secret in UFO history.
In the beginning of UFO investigations if witnesses claimed multiple sightings at different times, that person would have been considered too far out to be of interest. That has changed tremendously. Many of our researchers now know people do indeed have multiple sightings. The point here is you may want to go back to the same area the next night (most of these types of recurrences happen at night) or, in those rare instances, the next day. If the sighting was at night, go a little earlier and take pictures of the area in the daytime concentrating on any objects in the area: trees, hills, and manmade structures. If you can measure the distances to these markers of course that would help. Your trip will not be wasted even if you don't see anything.
Reporting a UFO publically can be dangerous to your career.
I am not self righteous enough to tell people to endanger their career over a UFO sighting. If you're involved with government contracts, or any place where "they" can hurt you or damage your career, don't give your name. I suggest you report the sighting anonymously with MUFON. MUFON will keep your anonymity. Anonymity is one of the pillars of MUFON. Simply put they can be trusted and in their training (which I took) they stress the importance of maintaining anonymity when requested. Why even report it if it's anonymous? Your report may bring other people out of the "UFO closet." This may mean they also report their sighting confirming what you saw. Believe me you will feel better if other people witnessed what you witnessed.

Look out for the media.
The reality of the world is the media will try to trivialize your report. If your experience ends up bringing attention and you are interviewed, they usually bring debunkers on after you are interviewed. Try and counter in your initial interview the objections to your case these skeptics may make. Example: if Jupiter or another planet was close to the same area of the sky as your object mention that, because, you can be sure, if you don't, they will… In other words ,cover all your bases. If you have any professional standing that could lend credibility to your sighting, mention it ( if you can). If you are allowed to counter the skeptic, challenge any ridiculous statement they may have made, (there usually some) and keep your head; USUALLY, DEBUNKERS KNOW LESS THAN YOU ABOUT UFOS. Don't be intimidated, they are bluffing.
Getting money for your experience has it's headaches.
Suppose you have that rare UFO experience so profound, and well substantiated, it receives a thorough investigation with even the possibility of a book deal. What should you do? Obviously in this illustration the investigation went well for the person, in other words concrete independent evidence that something did happen. Now, it gets complicated. People may push you and pull you all kinds of ways. I suggest you remember why you reported your experience(s) in the first place…it was probably a selfless act. Stay true to that integrity above all else, in your testimony, and even with the lure of more money. If you do this you will certainly be in good standing with the UFO community. You can bank on that.
What happens if you are asked to speak at some UFO conferences?
That of course is up to each and every person to decide. I can tell you what I have observed at conferences. The support for well documented cases is phenomenal. Each one of them is perceived by most of the UFO community, as a break in the wall against humanity's ignorance. There are some people in our community that seem to have their own agenda, whatever the hell it is. These people will question any human weakness you have. This type of unfairness doesn't go unchallenged with most of the UFO community; they will support you in every way.

Is it worth it? The strongest evidence we have points to Extra Terrestrial Vehicles. They have continually monitored the Second World War, our nuclear buildup and our trips in space. They have even shot down missiles. At this very moment they are being witnessed and recorded all over the world. We've had an American hero who walked on the moon stating emphatically and publically that ETs are here. When UFO craft and its occupants turn out to be a public reality your UFO experience will take on a significance you could hardly have dreamed of.

Above all else, people of the world, report UFOs because knowledge is power.

KEEP WATCHING THE SKIES

Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

Note: Nasa has proven those rocks from Mars do after all contain life.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article6934078.ece

The Mortician From Roswell

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The UFO Dr. Who Cried Wolf Wolf!

2009-11-20T17:52:00.010-05:00

People in the UFO community for the most part want disclosure. Dr. Salla happily gives it to them…every few months.

I am sure the doctor cares about the people in the UFO community but these same people are disappointed when his insider dope doesn't pan out. Not one in UFO research or any UFO "spokesperson", in our community wants to admit there sources stink. Michael Salla, PhD is a member of the Exopoltics Movement. They are part and parcel to a movement that thinks if you accuse the government, through the media, of hideous things, with no hard evidence, they will be embarrassed enough to give you all you want .

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m10d21-Official-disclosure-of-extraterrestrial-life-is-imminent

Dr. Salla touted out a few months ago information on a UFO UN meeting the only problem was it never happened. Let me ask the reader if they think something this big would be leaked to Dr. Salla or his insiders? I ask ,in all humility, when this falls through Dr. Salla, will you finally stop listening to these inside people? There seems to be a great deal of crying wolf around some blogs these days I guess it's more about getting hits than helping the truth get out . I was born in the old school of thinking integrity matters and shouldn't be squandered for any fleeting nonsense.

The year 2008 was a year of many pronouncements about contact. Rumors about ET landing were rapid. I was caught up in it myself. I don't put anyone down for getting caught up in this. When a person spends part of their life knowing something important is true, you'd want it to be proven right. What I saw was a flying saucer. I know that for myself but it doesn't mean a "hill of beans in this world". You can move a group through truth or through lies. Truth always last longer because truth is consistent. Dr. Salla, I expect is a good person, but I think he should be more careful on these announcements. Responsible reporting and reminding the reader that this is probably not going to happened would have been the right way to go. Yes we would like to have it out in the open …no we don't want to look like idiots, again.

My Prediction:

Obama will not do this and Dr. Salla sources will make some excuse why it didn't happen. Do I have a crystal ball? No just common sense.

I will be visiting Dr. Salla's blog when this doesn't happen to see what he says. Maybe others, who don't like his way of doing things, should do the same.

Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

UFO Media Matters: MUFON VS The Aliens - Who Won?

2009-11-16T13:57:00.008-05:00

Heads Up New Yorkers: Intruders Foundation in Manhattan is having speakers again. December 5th Col Charles Halt retired will be speaking o the n Rendlesham UFO incident. Here is the link for pertinent information.
http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_events.html

A few years ago MUFON tried to catch ETs abducting humans. They selected a group of documented alien abductees and they began putting specially designed sensing units in each abductees’ home. MUFON had the abductee fill out forms each day on their recollection of the night before i.e., whether they thought something happened or not. The idea was simple and smart. You collate the data from the “tamper proof” sensors with the days that the abductee felt something happened. If the sensor picked up anomalies you would have independent verification something strange happened that same night. MUFON was smart; they expanded this to a good group of candidates which in the end could collaborate evidence from several units showing the same thing. This would be powerful evidence something was happening and it wasn’t not “night terrors.”

These are two photos of these sensor prototypes which were suppose to be disguised as normal everyday fixtures. The one on the right is their final modal.

Now I know many of you out there will say, “you can’t fool the ETs; they are too advanced”. I think the history of human – alien contact is full of ETs making mistakes, whether through arrogance, or just plain being imperfect. Bud Hopkins has been reporting for years how these entities make mistakes. When you think of public media and scientific reaction to ETs abduction, it is no wonder they treat us sometimes without a thought. I think, they think, we are just plain stupid. Maybe they‘re right.

So with this belief system in tow, MUFON went on trying for years to get the “Abduction Monitoring Project” up and running. Money, designing gear, and time were working against them but through the work of the grunts, it finally happened. They received the money and began the project. First, they had to change the name; why, you ask? Well they wanted independent outside verification and the word “abduction” turned these sources off, so it ended up being named the “Ambient Monitoring Project”. They also had to find the right abductees, which had to be solidly documented abduction cases. In the end they had sensors in place (Picture Below) and eventually gathered all the information they needed over several months. . These abductees’ names and such have been kept under wrap for obvious reasons. There is one problem I have with the selection process. The researcher whose cases these abduction candidates were selected from is also under wrap and he should be out there. Whoever made the selection process needs to be questioned about the process and the documentation around these candidates. As far as I know he/she has not gone public.
THE AMBIENT MONITORING PROJECT: MUFON Journal July 2008 #483.

So where is MUFON now with this data? “Nowhere, Man.” You see the big hang-up was getting an independent expert to work on this data with the money they had. They just couldn’t afford it. It seems this data is still sitting there gathering dust.

So my question is why not have someone they can afford do it? Ok, the best scenario is completely independent evaluation, but absence of that, any collating of the evidence is better than none. If these sensors have a chance in hell of monitoring anomalies in abduction cases than why not reveal the statistics for the public to view and analyze, if that be the case.. I don’t see why they can’t do both. I am sure there are volunteers in MUFON who could interpret this data. Why not use them? Is proving how great you are to scientists, who don’t even look at the evidence, more important than knowing what happened? In the future when MUFON has the money, they can have additional sources look the data over. The data doesn’t change.

I think MUFON’s first duty is to the witnesses and experiencers. If you believe some people are being abducted then why not release the data one way or the other? James Carrion recently leaked a document against MUFON’s own training manual suggestions, to debunk Stan Romanek. It seems MUFON, like Stan Romanek is sitting on it’s own unreleased documentation.

Right this minute MUFON has all of this data just sitting there at MUFON with no word of what happened or where they are with it. This project was designed to reveal the truth behind abductions. The hard work and determination of those who were part of this investigation needs to be rewarded with a conclusion. There might be all kinds of things happening with this project but you wouldn’t know it by the MUFON Journal, which first reported it. The Journal, at times, puts things out there without follow-ups and many times that leaves me wondering; What Happened?

So I ask with all due respect MUFON: What Happened To The Ambient Monitoring Project?

DVD Clip Dr. John Mack:

Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

Dr. John Mack: Alien Abductions

2009-11-10T17:05:00.003-05:00

"When a colleague of mine asked me would l like to meet Budd Hopkins, I replied, Who's he? She told me he was an artist in New York who worked with people who reported being taken by alien beings into spaceships. I said something to the effect that he must be crazy and so must they."

So started the journey of Dr. Mack… a journey he couldn't possibly, in all his years, thought he would take. Dr. John Mack was at the top of his game, a tenured Harvard Professor of psychiatry, tons of published papers and a Pulitzer Prize for "A Prince of Our Disorder", his biographical study of the life of British officer T. E. Lawrence. He had achieved what few scientists have achieved, he had become…one of the best in his field.

January 10, 1990 was when John Mack met Budd Hopkins and the rest is UFO abduction history. We in the UFO community read proclamations like John made everyday. It's not hard to understand how a good person may react to "Alien Abduction", but John Mack was different. You see, Dr. Mack, in his soul, was a pure scientist who's soul stretched far beyond the accolades and awards. John knew intrinsically that outright rejection of ideas, because of preconceived notions, dooms a scientist to mediocrity. (sorry, Phil Plait)

John Mack listened to Budd with the ears of a true scientist and he realized these people where neither crazy nor hoaxing. He did something astonishing in the mainstream scientific field; he journeyed into UFO evidence land…with an open mind.

The striking similarities in details between abductees in Bud's reports from all over country and the world could not be denied. A picture that was drawn from one abductee and shown to another peaked John's interest. Hopkins had shown the woman abductee a picture drawn by another abductee of an alien being. The second abductee became extremely upset over the picture because it look exactly like the beings she encountered, which validated the reality of her experiences. Remember, this case was in the early 80s. If you had said, "grays" to this woman she would have probably thought you were talking about colors.

John Mack took a career risk, beyond even what he could have imagined, and investigated further. In his book, "Abductions" he describes his take on the debunkers, and I'm sorry to say, some UFO researchers', mantra to explain abductions. The dubunkers, backed by some studies, claim hypnosis cannot be relied on to retrieve accurate memories. "This question had received a great deal of attention in both the UFO community and therapeutic communities"…he goes on:

"I believe this criticism cannot be supported (by these studies). Daniel Brown, a noted expert in the field of hypnosis research determined after carefully reviewing the literature on recall among trauma suffers, under hypnosis, that there been no studies of the memory in this population, i. e. , among individuals for whom the events in question are of core meaning or central importance. Rather, conclusions regarding the inaccuracy of recall under hypnosis have been based on studies in which an environmental context was created and memory was tested in relation to events that were of peripheral significance to the subject."

In other words, the subjects didn't care about their surroundings so of course their memories were not that detailed. You tend to remember more when you're trying to survive; don't you think?

One of the biggest myths you will read on the internet and repeated by debunkers on all sides is that the abductee memories about "ETs" and Craft are brought out through hypnosis, and, therefore unreliable.

"Abductees may have a great deal of conscious recall of their experiences without hypnosis."

This was very evident with the "Barney Hill" report. The DVD clip below plays the actual video tape from his hypnosis where he faces his emotions, while conscious, of seeing the beings in his binoculars before he and Betty sped away.

An Abduction Case:

Joe was a psychotherapist with a professional development consulting firm. Joe has also been visited by ETs since he was young. Part of Joe's job was helping others get over their fears but Joe had never confronted his own. Joe had many alien being encounters. When he was young he tried to tell his family. They tried to convince him he was only dreaming. Recently, a brother, who does not believe in abductions, admitted to him, "you know, Joe, you were always frightened of UFOs."

He came to the conclusion he needed to "air it out" so he sought Dr. Mack.

"Joe's first image under hypnosis was of a non-human being with a triangular face and a large forehead, narrow chin, and large black elliptical eyes. 'it's inviting me back…it's moving away and drawling me foreword. It's got long thin arms. God! It has a long thing back. It can move gently, it can move fast. It wants me to lie on the table. It's looking at me deep in the eyes and telling me, to relax.' Whispering now Joe said. "he was scared because he knows they are going to do something…my whole spine aches my groin is on fire"

Dr. Mack took Joe back to before the abduction to find he had come upon a craft while out at night behind his barn. "The craft was real symmetrical…egg shaped."

What happens next has been repeated in one way or another in hundreds of long term abduction accounts. Joe finds he has been in contact with them all his life. He develops and a true liking and bonding with one of these beings. There were more than one kind of entities on the ship. They implanted, took samples and all the other reported actions. He also talks about being in an alien body at times among other aliens. I felt like my thoughts are available to everyone…that there is nothing to hide. There is no shame…"

He felt they had communicated to him that he was to make things better for the "humans". He believed that is what he is supposed to do on earth. The continuing details on this case is fascinating reading among other cases in the book, "Abductions, Human encounters with Alien" by Dr. John Mack.

I cannot end this post without mentioning that some at Harvard Medical school tried to take away Dr. John Mack's tenure but their allegations shriveled in the light of day… however it was a drunk on a dark lonely street who achieved what the inquisitors couldn't… steal away a powerful voice of a real scientist and a good man.

DVD Clip The Scream Of Alien Abductions:

Joe Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

UFO Media Matters: An Open Letter To James Gilliland

2009-11-01T15:26:00.004-05:00

Dear Mr. Gilliland,

How can you claim the spiritual path is what the ETs represent when you condemned a whole group with intolerance? First of all the UFO community is not one voice it is many different voices… as it should be.

Are you so insensitive that you don't know some ET abductees have had their families and lives torn apart by these forced kidnapping. What is the UFO community suppose to do with these people convince them what they are feeling is all for the good. How the hell would we know that for sure? I have been around over half a century and I've seen this game before. It reminds me of many a cult? The first things a cult leader will do is separate from the mainstream and try to get his/her followers to do the same thing. The reason these cult leaders give for this separation are basically the same as yours; bad people.

I believe, as you do, that the vast majority of ETs are probably not harmful and have advanced socially and spiritually beyond us. But what we also know is that many ETs may not be. Isn't that the way of the Universe? So how are any of us to know which is which? Do we know if these are spiritual beings because they tell you and others they are? How egotistical? You are so beyond us you can't be fooled? Come to NY for a while and will find out.

Why do you punish your own group within the UFO community after all many supported you. The only reason you have any power is because you own the ranch. Remember they have been seeing those lights and crafts long before you owned that ranch.

I find it very contradictory for you to say on the one hand, this message is for the whole world, and then decide who is excluded? This make me think that if these are good ETs they pick the wrong spokesperson and if they are evil well… you may have been seduced by them.

mahatma gandhi said "Tolerance is the measure of spiritual growth" so in my book you have taken a step backwards.

But in the end, it will be the future that will decide if you actions are one of spiritual concern, or plain old intolerance for people's honest opinions that differ from you.

"heaven Help us the evil men do in the name of good"

Joe Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

Do Aliens See Ghost?

2009-10-27T21:17:00.006-04:00

UFO Media Matters Halloween Joint

Then take me disappearin' through the smoke rings of my mind,
Down the foggy ruins of time, far past the frozen leaves,
The haunted, frightened trees, out to the windy beach,
Far from the twisted reach of crazy sorrow: Dylan

There seems to be a strong probability that some humans can see and communicate with ghosts, i.e., the dead. This sensitivity is well documented by some respectable scientists. As reported in the great book, "The Afterlife Experiments," scientist Dr. Gary E. Schwartz ran controlled experiments with the best known mediums in the country. To counter the debunkers claims of hoaxing, "by leading the person", the recipients of these readings were allowed to only answer "yes" or "no". Most good mediums do this anyway. After the results, he advocated for continuing scientific research into this, Dr Schwartz concludes:
"It is true to say that the experiments of the University of Arizona have brought forth remarkable events – so many in fact, that to dismiss them is commit the ultimate scientific sin" Of course the new breed of scientist are courageous and did nothing.

This science of "spirit" detection is tangible; this force is something that has been measured in the field and in the lab. I ask though, is this sprit communication, along with other paranormal human abilities, a part of all sentient evolution? Does it continue and get stronger?

Make no mistake about it, UFOs and Ghosts have an association. UFOs have been witnessed over gravesites and over sacred Indian burial grounds many times. The paranormal and UFOs are so intertwine at times, that many think they are the same. When you did deeper into the sightings you know they are not.

Let's jump out of the box for a while and imagine that some ETs evolve to a place where when they travel to any planet with their nuts and bolts technology. They also bring along their ability to communicate with the planet's dead. What a tale our dead could tell…right? We better hope they don't judge us by what our dead reveals about the real us.

So, what would this all mean… if the brain evolved the mind to a place where these abilities are taken for granted… like taste and smell Can any of us image what it would be like? Where science and the "paranormal" existed side by side.

There is one other point I would like to make. All over the world these "Spirit Shamans" see other entities not just humans spirits could some them be aliens souls ETs, mad as hell because they're stuck here on earth? "Elementals" are thought of as older than the human race. This may be true, but not because they are demons, but because the planet is older than earth.

"Sleep tight kiddies"

I know a atrueorignal just loves me to discuss "Skinwalker Ranch":) so here's a video clip Dedicated to her and Aliencasebook.

Also Kudos Bruce at "Intangible Reality's from whose post "Ghost And UFOs" which help me think of this.

Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

UFOs Masters Of Electricity

2009-10-19T16:50:00.007-04:00

UFO Debunkers Dirty Little Secret

Next time a debunker tries to explain away UFOs as nothing ask him what he thinks of his side's dirty little secret, the one they won't talk about. The reason debunkers don't want to discuss this subject too much is because it makes them very uneasy. In fact, it puts into question every "proclamation explanation" they ever put forward to dismiss UFOs. This secret is the power of UFOs to interfere with any type of electrical equipment. We don't just have a few cases of these "interference" reports we have thousands of independent reports, from farmers in the field, to "Fighter Pilots" on dangerous UFO intercept missions. UFOs have even done the impossible when it comes to electrical interference, they have shut down triple redundant missile silos; twenty of them. That is sixty combined redundant electrical systems. One very silly explanation for the "no go" is there was a blackout "around" that time. Tell me how anyone could believe the military hadn't thought of the possibility of our enemy would knock out the power grid? In fact, they did by having triple redundancy with their own generators. Remember that aircraft have redundant systems also and these were disabled many times too.

The military completely dismissed as "unfounded" the UFO sighting at the silos and we know without doubt the military is always honest about UFOs with the people…don't we?

Now let's take a closer look at this secret. One explanation of electrical interference is plasma balls. You can create plasma balls with a microwave oven and a match stick. Funny thing though, the plasma balls don't interfere with the microwave electrical system while they form, it just keeps chugging along. J As for mile wide plasma balls flying around our atmosphere; they have way less proof of that than UFO craft. By the way, do plasma balls have different colored lights around them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning

Let's look at the reports from the early stages to now.

The book, Strange Company, by Keith Richards which chronicles the "Foo fighters" of the WWII starts out our investigations:

Pg 196; "On September 28, Lt. Colonel A. Sullivan with the US Signal Corp, wrote in a message to General McDonald titled "Remote Interference with Aircraft"… "Interference has been reported well before 1940… An investigation," Sullivan wrote, "has been completed on the subject and it is considered that there is no means presently known which was in deployment or used by the German Air force which could interfere with engines of aircraft in flight."

The cases below are strikingly similar no matter where or when the sightings took place:

Date
June 29, 1964

Location
Near Lavonia, Georgia, United States

Summary: Businessman Beauford E. Parham was returning home late on the evening of June 29, 1964. "I spotted a very bright light in the sky . . . coming directly toward my car," the witness said in a letter to a NICAP member. "The next instance it was directly in front of my headlights spinning like a giant top. It was shaped like a top and made a hissing sound like a million snakes."
The UFO, "big enough to hold a man," was amber-colored, about six feet tall and eight feet wide. A tower-like projection with a dark band was seen at the top. Vane-like configurations were also observed. Small portholes dotted the bottom, through which "flames" could be detected…Disappearing in a flash, the strange object reappeared a second time. " …It stayed directly in front of my headlights for at least a mile, never touching the car but spinning just in front of my lights," said Parham….After disappearing, the UFO reappeared for a third time, again heading directly toward the car. The vehicle's motor began to miss and the driver stopped the car. After "spinning like crazy," the object took off and disappeared in a "split second."

The UFO only interfered with the vehicle the third time, indicating to me the object controlled what happened and what didn't. By the way, Mr. Parham suffered burns to his arms.

Date
November 11, 1956

Location
Isle of Vaddo, Sweden

Summary: Stig Ekberg and Harry Sjoberg were driving on the Island of Vaddo, Sweden, when they were approached by a flattened sphere shaped object. It settled in the middle of the road, about 100 meters in front of them. After about ten minutes, the object lifted off and accelerated away. At the landing site, the witnesses found a shiny "rock" that was hot to the touch. It was a three-sided piece of metal about the size of a matchbox, and had a heavy weight. Upon analysis, the object was found to be composed of tungsten carbide and cobalt.

"…According to a summary of the case compiled by Von Ludwiger (1998), the two witnesses, Stig Ekberg and Harry Sjoberg, were building a house on the island of Vaddo, about 90 kilometers north-northwest of Stockholm. At about 10 p.m., Ekberg was driving his Ford V8 pickup when they saw a bright flying object with the shape of a flattened sphere 8 meters wide and 3 meters high approaching from the right (from the east) against the clear night sky. They estimated that it flew about 1 kilometer in front of them at an altitude of 100 meters. Suddenly it made a sharp turn toward them, at which time the truck engine sputtered and died and the headlights went out. The object started "slowly gliding down." It seemed to rock back and forth until it came to a stop in the middle of the road, about 100 meters in front of them, 1 meter above the ground. "It was illuminating the surrounding landscape with such a tremendous amount of light that even a barn, half a kilometer away, was visible as if the sun was shining." The air smelled like ozone and smoldering insulation.

After about ten minutes the light of the object intensified, it lifted off the ground, moved to the left and up, made a sudden turn, and accelerated away in the direction from which it came. At that point Ekberg was able to restart the truck normally, and the headlights came back on."

Here again we see the electrical interference powerful enough to stop a car's engine and turn off the lights. But this is not proof, is it? What is next kind of puts a damper on the plasma ball explanation.

Date
July 15, 2002

Location
Campamento Vespucio, Argentina

Summary: An unidentified flying object (UFO) of large size and intense luminosity was seen in the town of Campamento Vespucio. The event caused a sensation in this community. The object was of the size and shape of a rugby ball. The phones stopped working and the electrical systems of several cars were left for dead.

"…Residents of Vespucio took to the streets to look at the object, which remained motionless for 40 minutes before vanishing suddenly toward the west at "prodigious" speed, according to witnesses. A housewife who chose to remain anonymous said "it was oddly beautiful. The intensity of the light was enormous although it produced no fear whatsoever." The same woman added that "we were all marvelled at first but got nervous when we realized that along with the phenomenon, the phones stopped working and the electrical systems of several cars were left for dead, making it impossible to start them or turn on their lights."

Residents of the Tablillas area, some 3 km inside the canyon where Campamento Vespucio is located and consequently closer to the UFO, were not surprised by the event, since they said "we are used to seeing this singular luminous events since 1999, and the fact remains that whenever they appear, they cause failures in motor and electrical systems." Only a few families live in this place, all of them former workers and employees of YPF who chose to remain in the area after privatization, which can be reached along a tortuous dirt road leading to the Pan American oil company operations. The road also leads to onther gas and oil wells which currently register no services whatsoever."

We have the beginnings of what UFOs can do. Even before WWII these effects on electrical systems were known and investigated.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/Cases/CaseView.asp?section=CE2

Right from the start the government knew about the electrical interference. The debate raged on until the scientific debunking community came up with some answer: plasma or Ball Lighting.

That theory that a type of plasma discharge caused electrical interference for various reasons was shot down by Atmospheric Physicist Dr. James McDonald. In fact, he was surprised it was brought up and couldn't believe they tried to use it. After showing them what it meant to be out of their league he made enemies. Some of those enemies had jobs with Intelligence.

These powerful directed electrical anomalies can be considered significant proof of a real UFO encounter and no "proclamation explanation" can dismiss that. What further proof do I have? How about the people who were there!

DVD Clip: Fighter Pilot, Missile Silos

The Four

2009-10-13T22:25:00.005-04:00

As he stands inside the doorway he is afraid but he believes all that he sees…. on the floor where everything is merging…and the pictures he sees are tragic…and he begins to believe in Magic.
Richie Havens.

If you're a debunker how do you explain four credible witnesses who come forward 12 years later about a UFO sighting and Alien abduction? This was just the case in the Allagash abduction story where twin brothers, Jack and Jim Weiner, along with their friends, Chuck Rak and Charlie Foltz, had close encounters and missing time. When eventually the story came out a well respected, well seasoned, UFO researcher, Ray Fowler, set up the sessions with a certified hypnotist. Later, as all four went under separate hypnosis sessions. The classic abduction scenario played out. The debunkers, of course immediately jumped on the hypnotists as the explanation; simply put the hypnotist had led each one of these four men into a false memory of alien abduction. Sounds like a plausible explanation. A overzealous hypnotist leads the subject toward abduction because that is what he/she believes happened.

This is where the laymen and scientists so many times miss the boat when they explore no further and buy into this explanation. The details of this group's alien abduction experience shouts out to the common sense mind that the "false memory" floating boat does not hold water.

As in the Betty and Barney Hill abduction the Allagash abduction begins with a close encounter of the second kind. But, unlike Betty and Barney, they had a previous sighting four days earlier.

In this case four friends go on their dream camping and fishing trip in the Allagash river territory in Maine. Interesting enough they were told the river water was too low to fish by Park Rangers, but they went anyway and to their surprise the water level was fine.

This first encounter and it's description of the light have been repeated thousands of times in others UFO reports: They noticed on shore an extremely bright light over the trees, then it seemed to wink out as if it collapsing inward. They quickly forgot about it and four days later the small group found a spot where they decided to go night fishing. They built a large all night camp fire, and the four friends ventured forth by canoe on the river for some great productive night fishing. It was productive all right, but not for them.

As they started to fish a bright light rose over the trees and hovered. It was described by all four as radiating. They mentioned that it seemed to be the same light they all witnessed four days earlier. What they do next also is not new to UFO history. They used their flashlight to signal the lighted object. The object responded by immediately shining a beam down on the river. Before the critical among you think that this could have been a helicopter, think again. The object witnessed by all four was silent, even at very close range. They became frightened as the object seemed to be getting bigger and closer. Almost simultaneously they all started paddling as hard as they can toward shore. Jack was in the back of the canoe and could see it was gaining on them quickly he knew there was no way they couldn't possible get away. The next thing they were aware they were then on shore and was the large lighted object was hanging in the night above them close enough "to hit it with a stone." They had been on the lake a short while; at least they thought… They signaled it again but got no response and it drifted away but then as an added statement the light collapsed inward only to reappear far away, It then to shot off into space. They did notice their campfire (which had been blazing when they left) was only cinders upon their return to the campsite- this was impossible they felt as they were no more than twenty minutes on the lake.

The following suggests strongly that they were under some powerful post hypnotic commands. After having the scary experience they all almost immediately fell to sleep and never talked about their experience during the following ten days of their camping. Again, we find the classic experience: missing time and a almost pathological need not to talk about it afterward. I have often wondered why these entities don't just wipe human memories? But, you know, they don't have to. All they need to do is buy time. That is what they seem to do after most abductions by inducing long term amnesia. But nature will not be denied not even by aliens. When something that traumatic happens it has to leak out. For years the two brothers had horrible similar nightmares. Folks, these nightmares happened years before the induced hypnotism. Although the dreams were in some ways different there was one way they were very much the same. They both experienced creatures in the dreams, they were confined in a room by these beings who paralyzed with their minds. They remembered being violated like lab rats. They felt the helplessness and the rage associated with a real abduction. These terrors are not from TV . What is happening here is much more than that and I think we all know it. The evidence and emotion surrounding this abduction was real and no induced hypnotism was yet in place.

For years afterwards, the brothers had these abduction terror dreams. They never told each other about the dreams; only their wifes knew. Eventually these dreams started to intensify and they started to talk to each other about them. (Think about Barney Hill right now and how Betty had the constant dreams and Barney had to be treated for an ulcer. Stress finds a way out). There reaction on learning they were both plague by their horrible dreams they stated to talk to the others who were there.

The important details to these types of reports are the side avenues the debunkers don't want to get into. They will not address these types of details publically because they really can't. There is no other explanation except something real happened. When the horrible details of what happened in the four separate hypnotic sessions matched, this stopped being a quaint UFO story. No, this was an all too frightening, this was the about pain, the terror the loss and embarrassment of abduction and rape. The ultimate terror… to lose complete control to something that isn't even from earth.

Charles Foltz, one of the group, eventually bought into the debunkers explanation. He stated it must have been false memory. No one seems to point out this is a very possible reaction to an experience that was so horrifying in its significance as to shatter your future for all time. He simply did not want it to be real, and who can blame him? As for the fifteen minutes of fame explanation looming out there, the details of this abduction are embarrassing in a public forum. Why would these types of outdoorsmen do that to themselves?

What do these beings want? Why do they leave clues? Is it just mistakes or are they leaving messages in these abduction? Do they leave deep subconscious messages which tell us who is in control ?

Remember that even if you are in a group, if you try to signal a UFO what you get back may be more than a Hello.
DVD Unsolved Mysteries Clip: Allagash Abduction:

The Four That Were Taken from Joseph Capp on Vimeo.

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UFO New Rules

2009-10-06T19:40:00.007-04:00

New Rule:

Scientists must stop pretending they know about UFOs:

Scientists should do a little reading before they make statements about UFOs especially when they know nothing about them. I like a good laugh like everyone else but some of their explanations could be punch lines on comedy central.

New Rule:

UFO researchers have to stop finding new explanations for Roswell.

From now on every Roswell investigator has to show his new theory to the surviving witnesses of the Roswell incident; these researchers then have to report the witnesses responses in their books and UFO presentations. Then we can hear and read for ourselves how much baloney the witnesses think it is. We have everything from MOGUL balloons to dead dwarfs as explanation for Roswell…what's next Roswell -was a movie promotion?

New Rule:

Admitted liars, like hoaxers, who claim their hoax caused a "famous UFO case" need to take Polygraph tests or they remain what they were…liars.

Many UFO witnesses with good character and absolutely no history of lying have been asked to take polygraph test. But these hoaxers who are sadistic people and like to embarrass others get a free ride. If you come out forty or fifty years later and make fantastic claims about a famous UFO case then the first item on the agenda should be a polygraph test… that is the least we can demand for the sake of the real UFO witnesses. Come to think of it, I think Charles Moore is a liar, you know the guy who worked on MOGUL. He remembered some forty years later the exact day a MOGUL balloon way launched. It turned out to be the only MOGUL that could have landed in Roswell. He should get a polygraph, too. There are so many others out there, let me think…Rendlesham Hoaxers?

New Rule:

UFO researchers have to spend more time on new investigations.

We have a rich UFO history. I love it. I write about it. But there is so much out there that seems legitimate which is not being investigated. When was the last time you examined a book on new UFO sightings? You would think nothing is going on, and that does not seem to be the case, believe me. Why not send the new MUFON Teams to do some new thorough investigation of multi-contact experiences? Gilliland Ranch comes to mind.

New Rule:

UFO researchers have to make "different presentations" at "different UFO conferences".

We are having a hard enough time getting young members into the conferences. Nothing will turn them off more than watching the same thing over and over. Also, many of us like to attend different conferences and we get bored with the same presentation at each conference.

New Rule:

Some UFO researchers need to practice what they preach.

Attacking the UFO witnesses in the midst of presenting new evidence on a case is just distracting and non constructive. You guys are the experts in this field. If you see some inconsistencies, present them-absent the jibes. Most of us, who think, will note your professionalism and respect you for it. People are multi-layered-

many times a little gray. I know that is hard to take in a black and white UFO world but you can handle it.

New Rule:

Bloggers who have big mouths have to turn on comments:

Recently I was taken to task for not publishing comments. It was an accident but people can get pretty frustrated when a blogger writes statements that are controversial and they can't counter them. Somehow my email had been changed at BlogSpot. When I corrected it, I ended up having to answer every comment… it took two days… people still believe I did it on purpose. The comments are turned on off many UFO blogs and on many scientific blogs and web pages. After you receive a PHD you don't need to be right about UFOs… all you need to be is, on the right side.

New Rule:

Debunkers need to explain away the entire UFO sighting

Only UFO debunkers get away with explanations and no detail. We need to be on their asses and let them know, we know their game. UFOs haven't been explained, not by Project Bluebook, Condon Committee or any other government sponsored study. A star by any other name might not be a star.

New Rule:

MUFON needs to design a new "MUFON Journal" geared more towards the rank and file:

I love the MUFON Journal. I get it every month. I think it can be improved. First, I would like an expanded comments page. They could delete the sky map page. Anyone can get that on the internet now. We have many great UFO investigators that make mistakes or get hoodwinked. The MUFON Journal should recognize this and offer the investigator space in the journal to respond before they print a counter explanation. This was allowed for Stanton Friedman on the Brad Sparks MJ12 controversy; it should be allowed with others.

New Rule:

Contactees have to stop acting like they know it all.

You not only have contactees in our community claiming they know the real intentions of the ETs but they can name you each star they come from; really? These outlandish statements just turn off the majority of good UFO investigators and delay serious investigation into this real phenomenon.

Contactees, use some common sense. Think about this, would you reveal to a species just full of war mongers, fanatics, racists and power hungry mad men where your planet was?

New Rule:

The UFO community has to stop criticizing TV series UFO shows.

Beggars can't be choosy. We are lucky to get any show on TV. The constant attacks on UFO Hunters and others, I believe, helped in their demise. Although the show wasn't perfect, they did have access to some of the best scientific instrumentation around. Get over it, people. We should have supported, and encouraged our readers to watch the show through our blogs and our involvement, instead of nit picking it to death.

New Rule:

UFO witnesses need to stop embellishing their experience.

Nothing will hurt your credibility more than embellishing your story.

Simply put, don't do it…even if you have a book deal and they tell you it will increase sales. There are tons of UFO researchers out there just waiting for a sign of weakness in your report… you will not get away with it.

New Rule:

Scientist who want to investigate ongoing UFO/paranormal encounters need to treat what they are investigation as probably intelligent.

These multi-contact experiences are an important new component to UFO investigations- a chance to investigate in real time what is happening. The "Skinwalker Ranch" is a prime example of non intuitive scientific investigation which can lead to failure, at least on our side. It can be done better and we all know it.

I am sure everyone reading this has their own "New Rule" they would like to see put into place. I would really like to read them. Thanks to the Bill Maher show for the idea. Thanks to you, to the Anomalist and Aliencasebook and Lesley at the "Debris Field" for helping in increasing my weekly hits 10,000 fold and for helping support non- commercial independence in the UFO field.

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The Animals Of Mars Continued

2009-09-28T18:17:00.012-04:00

The title of the following article (The Hunt for Extraterrestrial Life Gets Weird) is about scientists starting to think about different kinds of life out there in the big universe. It poses a question; maybe NASA should look a little closer to home to discover these “weird alien creatures?” …. where? On Mars.

! http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/weirdlife/

In the past I’ve written about the real “new scientists”. They are non-credentialed investigators of UFOs and the Paranormal. These investigators are out there in the field because there is no one else to do it. This makes them the most knowledgeable people on the earth about these subjects i.e. “scientists.” The mainstreamed scientists rarely read about the subject matter and just yawn when they hear us rant. That makes most of them very ignorant of this subject. Would you ask for critical information on a surgery from a biology professor?

One of these “new scientists” is Skipper of “Mars Anomaly Research” web site. The photos down below, some old and some new, not only fit the bill of “weird alien creatures”, (above link) they have for the most part been overlooked. The first time I understood what scientists really do I was amazed how they could see details the rest of us normals miss. This ability to look deeper and see more is what sets them apart from your regular, just enough knowledge to get you by, person. Skipper fills this bill in every way as one of these “new scientists”. Scouring the Martian photos from all of NASA’s (ours) equipment on and above Mars he has found many very interesting photos which the “eyes wide shut” scientists overlook.

To refresh anyone memory, or for the newcomers, here are my previous photos on this subject. All of these photos are official NASA photos blown up.

What is being leek here?

These are some photos on the first post. it looks like a type of worm and it seems to move. First you see it, then you don't', then you do again… but in another place. Too bad our esteem NASA (Political) scientist never took a closer look like real scientist do…oops, I forgot, they have t another important creators to look at. The funny thing about these strange anomalies they were right in front of the lander.

http://ufomedia.blogspot.com/2009/06/animals-of-mars.html

Now we come to something new and even stranger. I linked to the above article, “The Hunt for Extraterrestrial Life Gets Weird” because I think we all have our set ideas of what alien life will look. Examine this first photo and tell me what you think? Please write your first impression and leave a comment . First impressions mean just that… first… before you think too much about it.

I looked at the above photo and thought right away smudges or dunes. It seemed to me they were slightly raised off of the surface of Mars so it left me suspicious. I always looked closely at the first photo Skipper presents to see what he noticed that I might catch.

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In the above image - Are those little sand dunes or What?

And Finally we see the Truth:

I wonder what they feed on? Look at those roots or legs, they are perfect signals of life. This is why I thought it was raised- because they are standing on Legs.

This “animal” seems to travel by these legs. Skipper points to one portion that seems to have broken off from the main body…a young one?

DVD: The Mars Effect:

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These are Photos from Mars At Nasa's sites. They are shown here with Permission from the "Mars Research Anomaly Web Site

htt://MarsAnomaly/research

A Real “Alien” Whistleblower

2009-09-21T16:53:00.009-04:00

You hear a great deal about UFO "whistle blowers" out there all hawking different stories about interactions between our government and "Aliens". There are so many of them and so sensationalized that they do more harm than good. The simply cancel each other out. But there is one person above all who stands out as a real Whistle Blower. She was the subject of the second blog I ever wrote almost two years ago.

Her name was June Crain.

http://ufomedia.blogspot.com/2007/01/good-american.html

June Crain worked at Wight Patterson Airbase from 1942 -1953. She was a top stenographer and the only one who understood and could spell scientific terms. Can you imagine what the subjects of her dictations were? She was a good looking woman so that didn't hurt either. All her life, June loved the people she worked for and cherished the history she was a part of. When the Air Force tried to rewrite history on Roswell she became very angry. When June Crain read the Air Force's final word on the Roswell mystery, she hit a virtual roof. You see, June was there when the engineers "rolled on the floor laughing" over the baloney, I mean "balloon", story. June not only handled the famous memory metal from Roswell, she tried to cut it with her scissors; she couldn't. Believe me the stainless steel scissors they used back then were sharp. She was also close friends with a Sergeant in security who "lost it" when he saw the "creatures". June was a real hero. She stopped a spy at Wright Patterson and received commendations for it. But her real heroism was in her battle with cancer and the death of her husband and one of children. She continued on not only serving her country but when she retired helped start her home town library. June had stamina that other people only dream of. She fought breast cancer twice. After she left the military she started her own successful business in between her bouts of cancer. What type of business? …affordable housing for low income people. This woman had more character than all of the debunkers and skeptics combined.

Picture Of wonderful June:

if ever a person's word should be accepted as true it's June Crain's Testimony. Unfortunately, I am sure, given enough time the Kroffs or Plaits of this world would call her a liar or demented, they have no shame.

June first came out anonymously; she had a pension to worry about. For years it stayed that way but when the Air Force decided to debunk the "creature" bodies as dummies, she was ready to throw her pension away. You see June worked for the Parachute corps and knew the guys and loved them. She knew the only dummies were the people who believed the Air Force. June decided to tell it all publically because, unfortunately, she was dying. "What can they do to me now?" she said.

She recalled at the time, hearing the buzz about crashed spaceships and bodies at Wright Patterson. In fact the brass circulated a memo for the rumors to stop. She was close with the "engineers" (scientists) and was part of their crowd at parties. Both groups had the same clearance. The security structure was not the same back then. These engineers literally fell on the floor laughing after reading the balloon cover-up in story in the papers.

Note: ( I don't think they would be laughing would they , if as Nick Redfren contends, Roswell was a experimental top secret high altitude radiation experiment using dwarfs who had just tragically died in a crash? )

Air Service Command Headquarters, Building 262

One day a Captain she knew l came in to office. While waiting for his appointment, he gave her a piece of metal. He told her to crumble it up. She did and then, as she released crumbled metal it went perfectly back to its original shape. Then he suggested that she cut it. June pulled out her trusty sheers and tried to cut it. She was amazed how something so light could not be cut with her scissors. She looked up at him in amazement and asked him while giving it back to him, "Where did you get this?" He answered seriously, "from a crashed space ship in New Mexico."

June was very close to a Master Sergeant Clarence in security on the base. In fact, June had attended his small wedding. One day he told her to meet him. He sounded very shaken up. When they met, he related an experience he had that had shaken him to his very core. He had escorted the crates of "little green men" bodies they recovered at Roswell. He reacted exactly like you would think…balloon anyone?

June was a fun person and she knew it… people like her and trusted her. She knew her job and was not above giving a Colonel his due when he broke security protocol. June's main objective, I think ,was that history not lose sight of what really happened at Roswell. Not only for the UFO and ETs that were recovered but for those the brave military grunts who had to deal with it Debunkers may used their nasty attacks on June. But I know a Kroff or a Plait would never want the likes of a June Crain as a star witness in front of Jury against them; on any charge. You can bet their lack of integrity on that.

There will be presentation At the Crash Retrieval Conference on June Crain by James E Clarkson, so, if you are there, don't miss it.

DVD Clip: "Roswell Yes" with Robert Durant. Clip 6 & Three here See all the clips on YOU Tube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo8lfkozLBk

Clip One Mack Brazel Clip Two MOGUL:

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Those Magnificent Aliens In Their Flying Machines

2009-09-13T20:16:00.017-04:00

Many of the arguments against UFO are laughable. For instance debunkers will constantly emphasize mistaken identity. They do this on the media even though they know most UFO researchers agree. Most Ufologists believe 80% or more of sightings have natural explanations. This tactic that debunkers use, that of pretending your adversary doesn’t do his homework, is an old ploy. Your adversary ends up always on the defensive.

But there is something very wrong with this argument, mistaken identity, when you pit it against some UFO reports. Sometimes, these UFO witnesses see more than lights in the sky or featureless objects. Sometimes they see detailed “machines”. And some of those machines are beyond our technology. Let’s take a look at some of these reports and decide if these UFO witnesses could have been mistaken.

This close encounter from the small book, “Appalachian Case Study: UFOs Sightings, Alien Encounters” by Kyle Lovern, is very interesting because of the great detail.

Dave Campbell was hunting in 1968 he came upon a hovering triangle above the trees. He had just finished high School and had enlisted in the military to be sent into Vietnam. On this day he was about to get the shock of his life. “It was no more than 30 yards away. I know this sounds crazy but the best way I could describe it is it look like the bottom of a Norelco shaver. I watched in awe for several minutes.”

He emphasized how the sides of the object were smooth and rounded it’s body like matte-aluminum silver. It was also emanating a loud whispering sound.

“There are what appeared to be three rotor blades; one mounted on each corner. The one nearest to me (with internal rotating blades or fans) began to drop. Then. in response to the rotor movement. the whole object moved smoothly in a westerly direction out of the hollow. To be honest at this time I was scared to death….I watched as the triangle object went out and over my parent’s house” It was much bigger than their house.

“…It was then that I saw that the rotor blades, complex coils or whatever they were, starting to change.” He watched as the bottom rotors dropped down modifying the direction the object was going. Simultaneously the silver grayish object began to move in a forty degree angle as it departed. “When the thing began to move, it just shot off like a rocket and was gone in seconds.”

Dave had another sighting after the war, which seems to be a pattern with people who have had such a close encounter.

There are only three answers to what Dave witnessed which I can think of: hoaxing, insanity or he told the truth. He witnessed an advanced flying machine. Of course, this could be dismissed if it wasn’t one of so many of the close up encounters where advanced machines are reported.

Early 1970s-Taken on Arizona/Utah border by Henry Rowland:

http://www.ufocasebook.com/bestufopictures3.html

Here is a case which was explained as psychological by Project Bluebook. This is from a book called CE-5(Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind) by Richard Haines, PHD

Air Force Lt. J. Long was driving about thirty miles from Tonopah NV when his car engine quit suddenly. As he go

t out to look under the hood he heard a “steady high-pitched whining noise.” As he looked toward the noise he noticed four disk shaped objects sitting on the desert sands, 300 to 400 yards away. He started to walk towards the objects and this is how he described them. “The four objects were iden

tical – each glowing brightly with transparent domes on top. The objects were fifty

feet in diameter, eight to twelve feet thick, and were supported by three half round landing gear about two feet in diameter.

” As Lt. Long continued ap

proaching the objects he got within 50 feet of the objects when the high pitch inc

reased to the point where it hurt his ears and the objects started to lift off. “...the protruding gears were retracted after the take-off.” This is what a flying machine would do- retract the landing gear.

Photo was taken in December 1957, by the radio officer aboard the naval ship S. S. Ramsey

Another Interesting case because of its timing:

Location. Near Tres Coracoes, Minas Gerais, Brazil
Date: January 13 1996

Time: 0800A

Traveling north on the heavily traveled Fernao Dias highway 35-year old Carlos

da Souza suddenly heard a muffled roaring sound, and he wondered if something was wrong with the truck. He stopped to check, but when he stepped down from the cab he realized the noise was coming from a cigar-shaped craft about 400 ft in the air just west of the highway. It was silver colored, reflecting the sun, and appeared to be 30 to 40 ft long and 12 to 15 ft wide. It had at least four windows along the side and what looked like a big jagged hole four or five feet in diameter in the front. There was a long dent or crack running from the hole back to the middle of the craft, from which point white smoke or vapor was coming out. The craft was traveling north, almost parallel to the highway, at about 40 to 50 miles an hour. Astonished, Da Souza jumped in his pickup and followed the UFO for about 10 miles. It soon crossed over to the east side of the highway and eventually passed over some small mountains. Then it went into a 30-degree dive and disappeared from sight. Da Souza was afraid it had crashed and desperately searched for a way to get to the area. After 20 minutes or so, he found a dirt side road and turned onto it. A few minutes later he drove over the crest of a hill and there before him was wreckage spread all over a hilly field of knee-high grass. He also saw about 40 soldiers and two male nurses, two trucks, a helicopter, an ambulance and three cars---all Army vehicles. Everyone was busily running around picking up pieces of debris. One truck already held a chunk half the size of a mini-van. A strong smell of ammonia and ether hung in the air. It was a terrible crash and Da Souza doubted that anyone had lived through it. He was surprised to see anyone there, let alone the military. He didn't know at the time that the site was only seven miles from the ESA Army base in Tres Coracoes. He parked and walked toward the wreckage, thinking he could help. He picked up a piece of aluminum-like material that was very light. It floated to the ground when he dropped it. Then one of the men spotted him, shouted, and in an instant, armed soldiers rushed toward him, ordering him to leave immediately. He protested, thinking someone had been badly hurt or killed, but a corporal screamed at him to get out. Da Souza was so astounded by what he'd seen that he abandoned his trip and headed back toward Sao Paulo. About 10 minutes later he stopped at a roadside restaurant to have coffee and think about what had happened. He was sitting there two hours later when

a car drove up with two men in civilian clothes, but military haircuts and bearing. One got out and walked up to him, asked if his name was Carlos da Souza, then asked what he'd seen. He was then warned not to say anything to anybody and threatened, the men then left. (This occurred one week before the incidents in Varginha). This case seems to indicate the flying machine was damaged with a gash in it’s hull.

HC addendum
Source: Bob Pratt, Cynthia Luce, Mufon Journal # 365 September 1998
Type: H
Comments: This appears to have been the first of the Varginha incidents.

http://www.ufoinfo.com/contents.shtml

Another UFO report, rather recent, of a Machine happened in Texas:

“Friday, February 29, 2008-In early January, Ricky Sorrells saw something he could

n't explain. Nothing could have prepared him for it -- or how his life was going to change…The event that changed his life began, innocently enough, with a simple desire for a peaceful afternoon of hunting. Sorrells was easing through a stand of trees some distance behind his home. Between the dead leaves crunching underfoot and the briers brushing up against his legs, he realized he wasn't being as stealth as he could. He slowed for a moment and, casually glancing upward, continued on -- and then froze in his tracks. "I took a step or two, and then I realized what my eyes had seen," he said. "I looked back up, and there it was. It covered the sky; it covered as far as you could see ... as far as you could see to the left and to the right and out in front." He remembered his rifle and, lifting it up, looked at the object through the scope. He didn't see anything that resembled rivets, seams or welds.

“And the thing was huge. It was so big that I couldn't see the edges through the canopy of the trees. I couldn't see past it. I started looking at it, all the details. There weren’t anybolts, no rivets, no welded seams. It was smooth. It was like a barn gray, (INAUDIBLE) a sandy gray.

It had cones protruding, going up into it, bigger at the bottom going up to smaller at the top. It -- actually, it took off like this. In my mind, I would have thought it would have raised up to take off for some reason, but it didn't. It remained flat and it took off at a 45-degree angle. And that was it.” This case was so significant that Sorrells claimed he was hounded by helicopters and even threats after it went public. This type, and other types, of harassment have been reported by quite a few witnesses who come forward with detailed encounters.

CNN Transcripts:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/11/lkl.01.html

Rick’s Sketches the details of the Bottom of the Triangle.

http://www.ufocasebook.com/2008/framebyframesorrells.html

There are hundreds of reports like these - flying machines with gears and landing pods and some equipment you can’t name. One case has stood the test of time more than any other the most famous case: Betty And Barney Hill:

“Approximately one mile south of Indian Head, the craft rapidly descended toward the Hills' vehicle causing Barney to stop directly in the middle of the highway. Opening the car door for a closer look, he pocketed his pistol and grabbed his binoculars. The craft descended to approximately 80-100 feet above the Hills' 1957 Chevrolet and filled the entire field of the windshield through which Betty was observing. Barney stepped away from the vehicle and moved closer to the object, which shifted like a pendulum from the west side o fthe car, east above the adjacent field. Using the binoculars, Barney claimed to have seen about 8 to 11 humanoid figures who were peering out of the craft's windows, seeming to look at him. Suddenly, with military precision, all but one of the figures moved to what appeared to be an instrument panel as though they were about to perform an important task. The one remaining figure continued to look at Barney and communicated a message to him to "stay where you are and keep looking." At that instant red lights on what appeared to be bat-wing fins began to telescope out of the sides of the craft and a long structure descended from the bottom of the craft. The silent craft approached to what Barney estimated was within 50-80 feet overhead and 50-100 feet away from him.

http://www.mysteries-of-the-world.com/betty-and-barney-hill.html

So, could these witnesses have mistaken these objects for any of the bull crap fodder explanations thrown out to the media by way of debunkers and scientists? There are too many credible witnesses to be just lying. There are so many of these machines sighted and reported that debunkers have to scramble to find an answer. So what is their answer? The only answer they could find: “secret aircraft”. But, from long ago, machines have been sighted and no matter what era the reports come these reported air machines are still technologically superior.

Location. Proskurov, Podolsky region Russia
Date: December 24 1912

Time: evening
The mayor of the village of Vyhilevka was walking towards Proskurov when he saw a dimly lit "machine" on a nearby field. He came closer and saw two men standing next to it, who seemed to be wearing military uniforms. The mayor asked the men who they were and where they were from but received no reply. The men then chased the witness and caught him dragging him inside the "machine", despite his protests. In the air the "pilots" asked the mayor numerous questions but he refused to answer. Soon the object landed and he was released near the city of Bar 60 km from Vyhilevka. The "machine" then disappeared in an unknown direction.

HC addendum
Source: Mikhail Gershteyn
Type: G?

Machines mean structure, a material world, the need to be enclosed in something for protection. This shouts to high heaven that this is Extra-Terrestrial who have societies like young earths. I believe anyone seriously investigating this subject should never, discount or apologize for believe that beings from other planets are the best explanation for many UFOs

Video: Brentwaters And Their Machine:

Part One

Part Two

Part Three:

Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

UFOs: The Smell From Rendlesham Forest

2009-09-06T20:50:00.027-04:00

They were more right than they knew when they said the Rendlesham UFOs experience was the British Roswell… because once again, just like at Roswell, they are calling our brave Military Officers idiots

UFOs bring out the best and the worst in people.

First, I want to get something very clear, especially to the morons in the press that keep running stories on the Rendlesham sightings…the UFO sightings experienced at Rendlesham did not… I repeat did not, take place on one night. It was a series of nights.

This post is also aimed at the other two morons who claimed that they were the real reason for the "Rendlesham" UFOs. Each of these two guys, who don't know each other, claimed that they were mistaken for UFO at the base. Even if you entertain the nonsense that trained security officers mistook a police car or burning crap for a sustained UFO sighting, then what happened on the other days?

Come to think about it, didn't these two morons notice each other while one was driving a police car in circles and the other was burning poop?

Whenever there is a famous sighting you have people coming out of the woodwork saying it was really them. None of the debunkers entertained the theory that these people are just hoaxers wanting their own 15 minutes of fame. But turn it around to a UFO experiencer and everyone that is pro UFO and involved is a media groupie according to debunkers and the media.

For all the people out there who think going public with a possible UFO spaceship story is easy I asked you to go in tomorrow to your boss and friends and tell them you saw a spaceship land and find out how much fun it is.

I believe these Rendlesham explainers are lying for media attention or had abnormal memory lapses.

This latest character's explanation for Redlesham has got to be the funniest..

Now let's get this straight, a 29 years ago a guy who lives near Rendlesham finds that he has stolen fertilizer in his truck so he burns it to destroy the evidence. Now as he was driving up the road where these Security Guards are watching they mistake his burning truck for UFOs.

First, why burn the fertilizer near military security guards when they would call the local police? Do any of the idiots who have written these articles know what bird dung would smells like when you burn it. I guess the smell was left out of the Security Officers report.

Also how many nights did he do this; three nights? He claims this happened on one night, the UFO sighting at Rendlesham happened over a series of hours and on different nights. For these Military Police to see this fire from the fertilizer for any length of time he would have had to be driving that truck 1 mile an hour.

As Salvo, who I love, the 3 year old child down stairs, who adopted me says…."Are you kidden Me!

Far from putting the Rendlesham UFO mystery to rest, as some of these articles suggest, this has just underlines the fact of how stupid the media has become.

Hey, Peter Turtill, burning stolen fertilizer makes you the type of person who breaks the rules when it suits them. I don't expect honesty to be your strong point. Let me tell you something else though, Simple Peter:
Burnt fertilizer does not shoot a beam out at you… nor does it hover above the trees. It doesn't spit into a series of lights and than come back together again. It doesn't leave radiation and holes in the ground and it sure as hell doesn't look like a advanced flying triangle that has just landed.

Photo Of landing area in Redlesham Forest:

Original Drawling of Triangle

Let's talk about the other moron who decades ago felt it was fun to drive a police care up and down a road to scare military security officers guarding atomic missiles at Christmas. It is very interesting to note while this guy was supposedly playing this hoax the base was on high alert during this time. This makes Kevin Conde either a fool or a liar.

"The base was on high alert because the Russians were about to send armored vehicles into Poland to stop the solidarity movement". "Left at East Gate"

Does the skeptical groupie community buy this or can they think for themselves?

I know most of the UFO community doesn't.

Lets dispense with the police car flashing light theory from Kooky Kevin once and for all:

This is the view the Military Guards had of the UFOs. The road is clearly visible:

"Conde's claim to fame is that he drove a battered 1979 Plymouth Volare standard issue American police car, down the taxiway,where he stuck the spotlight on, after sticking red and green lenses on it. He then drove the vehicle around in circles, in the fog and put on his PA loudspeaker, whilst flashing his car lights. He claims this was the basis of the famous 1980 Rendlesham Forest UFO incident. Let's examine Conde's testimony. It doesn't take a genius to see the flaws.

1.. Conde can't recall the date of his alleged prank. If this is so then how can he claim he was responsible for the 1980 incident?

2. Conde says there was fog on the night in question, but there was no fog during any of the incidents that week.

3. He says he played his loudspeaker, but the UFOs were silent.

4. The car he used for the prank was a 'battered 1979 Plymouth Valarie.' Let us not forget that incident took place in 1980, which means the so called battered police vehicle would have been less

than a year old at that time.

5. Conde claims he played the prank on the taxiway! The incident did NOT take place on or near the taxiway, but inside the forest. And let us not forget that the UFO was first seen falling into the

forest, which prompted those at the East Gate,John Burroughs and his sergeant, Bud Steffans, to think it was a downed aircraft. The lights, of course, were not going up into the sky, but were falling

down from the sky.

6. Conde says he was unaware of the Rendlesham mystery until he looked up his old base on a US military website. If this is the case then how could he claim that as far as he was aware they found

nothing above background [radiation] levels?

7. USAF personnel usually work in pairs when patrolling the base in vehicles. I'm assuming he was patrolling the base, and if so then he most likely would have had a partner that night. Who was that

person and why has Conde failed to mention him?

8. When asked about the metallic spacecraft and [ground] depressions Conde pointed out that a large helicopter had landed the previous night, apparently with three landing skids. Conde obviously hasn't seen the USAF photographs of the landing site showing the three ground indentations being examined by a British police officer and USAF Captain Mike Verano. For anybod yinterested, these are available n my book on the case entitled 'You Can't Tell The People' available at:

www.amazon.co.uk

Was there really a 'large helicopter' capable of forming three depressions in a triangular pattern? And if so, then why would the USAF alert the local constabulary to the landing site. Surely a USAF captain would know if these indentations were formed by one of their own helicopters. And why would a 'large' helicopter land smack in the middle of the forest, and even more important, how was 'a large helicopter' able to land amongst the trees.Kevin Conde, a part-time police officer in Sacramento, says, "I was amazed. I had no idea about all this nonsense." What nonsense? At least the witness's testimony is backed up by ample evidence."

http://www.hyper.net/ufo/vs/m05-007.html

If we were to switch roles and have kooky Kevin reporting seeing a UFOs that night and his story had this many contradictions, there would such a shout of "hoaxer" by everyone, debunkers, their groupies, and even the UFO community that we would never hear from Kooky Keven again.

Because his tall tale is touted as an explanation for the UFOs sightings this bull crap story is still communicated as an answer to Randleshame and is it still out there.

Once again the greatest insult has been level by these people and their supporters on all of the American Military Security Officers who guard our most sensitive military bases here and overseas. It basically says they are fools.

Sound like Roswell; you bet it does?

Note:

I ask any Military Officers out there who can prove these Officers or any others were not fools who have had UFO experiences to come forward out of sworn silence, what better reason or time to change your mind….Fertilizer?

In the final analysis what we have here is two con artist and the stench of yellow journalism… nothing more.

DVD Clip Redlesham Beef without the Bull:

Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

The Good Alien

2009-09-03T17:50:00.008-04:00

Of all the topics to write about suggesting that “Extraterrestrial Spiritual” beings are visiting us is the one to caused the most emotions . When the subject comes up with most of the nuts and bolts crowed in UFO land their antenna goes up and they think religion or cult.

There are many different views on what a spiritual ET would mean and there are many strange naive people involved with this belief bordering on an obsession. I believe honestly that some of these people are used by the UFO movements for fund raising.
For me when you strip away all of the foolishness I do believe there must be some peaceful ETs. If a species goes out into space and meets other species capable of the same and they don’t blow each other up than there’s hope.

I know of many very intelligent people who care about other species here on our planet. Humans are capable of transcending species with understanding and compassion.. There were good people who came to the aid of the Tarantula spider… how is that for cross species compassion. I believe this is a part of being a sentient species

Space travel and meeting other species may be the norm of star travel. What we don’t seem to realize is the evolutionary distance between those species and us. For example the evolutionary adaptation of mind communicating may have ended the possibility of lying.. This change alone could have revolutionized the way species related to each other. Another example of society changing discoveries is proving that your species sentient spirit lives on after death in another dimension. I believe that would heralded the most profound change imaginable to a society or to a world. . It is very possible this has led ETs to a belief in a creator; a God like figure. Boy would that leave a sourer taste in the month of some earth scientists?

Right now we are getting close to proving once and for all there are intelligent hauntings here on earth.

The big news is that if one species out there has found us than it is logical to think many have. That means the real possibility that some of these species may be what we would call “good”. But even if they were spiritual Aliens would that mean their mores would be the same as ours?

What I have been asking myself is what is spirituality. I can only really answer about my own Spirituality. For me spirituality alone frees me from some of the absolutes of religion. It expresses the common hope that we are all children of a creator. Getting out of myself and caring for others is a spiritual discipline for me. My faith includes a creator and the creators tool evolution to develop nature over time. When the material was ready it became spiritual. My spirituality demands from me an honest reassessment of what I am doing. I always need to make sure it is not my ego in disguise. Life has its ups and downs. I don’t blame the creator for hard times this is part of the gift given; freedom of thought.

Of course all of these principle is what I strive for each day with both good and bad days.

What type of spirituality do the ETs practice. Is it the activist form like Grundy or Martin Luther King? Is it a more a passive spirituality, like that of certain monks whose contemplation turns inward in seclusion? Do ETs use the same language when it comes to explaining these beliefs. Do the ETs use “force”, “power” or “positive energy” or other catch phrases? Do ETs know about Jesus? Is what we consider “good” here on earth reflected in a universal constant with most ET intelligent species? Or are some species different and go along caring out their dispassionate endeavors looking out only for themselves?

The problem with all of these reports is ETs could easily mimic human spiritual ideas anytime they wanted to. Which begs the question; If some of these “contactees” or “channelers” reports are true then are ETs really expressing their own spiritual beliefs or mimicking ours?

One of the questions I hear a hundred times, and I have to agree with, is that there is nothing profoundly new coming out of the mouths of these ET conduits. WE hear old spiritual catch phrases which have been written down in literature throughout history.

All in all there has to be some kind of agreement out there in ET land or there would only be one species here…The Winner.

The most unsettling part of all this is the “contactees” and “channeling” groups among the UFO community. One the one side we have those claiming there is very little documentation to the truth in these individuals claims. The other side points out the UFOs and paranormal activity which has been witnessed and even photographed by other people, around these individuals. Some of the chandelers prophesize through their ETs guides and some of what they foretold come true. I know that some experiencer abductees become spiritually involved with these ET figures, who they feel are kind and just want to help and warn us.

Another very important side is from those who’s abduction experiences with ETs, have been, and continue to be, horrific. They certainly have every right to get angry when other experiencer describe ETs as spiritual superior and steeped in loving kindness.

What ever is happening around the contactees and channelers the ETs never allows a smoking gun and they could in a second. One possibility is they set up these individuals to make them feel special. When you come right down to it if If the ultimate goal of ET contacts were to guide and warn the world, boy did they pick the wrong groups to warn the larger masses.

Something else is going on here and the contactees and channellers who are being honest might contemplate the possibility that what they feel and what they are being told may not be the whole truth. The most documented cases of abduction do not include spiritual ETs if anything they seem to be professionals carrying out there duties.

Another troubling answer these ETs seem to give is; “We don’t get involved”. This is not a good answer since some of them seem to be all too evolved.

Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

The Most Documented Abduction and the ETs that they met:

NY UFO: The Town on the Edge of Forever Part 2

2009-08-30T12:51:00.007-04:00

Pine Bush UFO Video below 2007-2008-2009

“I been wond'rin' all about me
Ever since I seen you there.
On the cliffs of your wildcat charms I'm riding,
I know I'm 'round you but I don't know where:. Dylan

The Calling:

It happens time after time, either during a flap or in certain UFO hot spots. Some individuals get strong psychic compulsions, a calling, if you will, to go to a spot where inevitably a UFO displays. Pine Bush is no exception to this high strangeness. Victor Polise ; “The Pine Bush Phenomenon” found this fact out first hand. while investigating in this area for ten years, As the sightings of Polise and others gained momentum he came to believe he was in communication with this intelligence who he thought may be “extra-terrestrial”. He describes the feeling that came over him:

“ I knew something was wrong I felt goose bumps and the hair on the back of my hand all stood up…I thought maybe I was sick when it dawned on me…it was them!.. They were preparing me for some kind of communication, but what?”

After mentally communicating to “them” he asked these beings to prove this was happening by showing themselves in a certain area... He drove to that area with adrenalin pumping in his body and the absolute knowledge that something for certain was going to happen. He became so impatient that he announced after only “one minute”.

“Well I’m here, show me! At that moment I saw bright pulses of light all over – north, south, east west – Amazing strobe lights… I felt like they were rolling out the band wagon for me, I was completely floored”

As I mentioned earlier Polises reported compulsion is not new. This has been reported over and over again. As a point of fact the same compulsion was reported on another well investigated UFO / Phenomenon hot spot. This ranch was highlighted on a previous post on UFO Media Matters; “The Other Skinwalker Ranch”:

http://ufomedia.blogspot.com/2008/04/other-skinwalker-ranch-contact.html

“Together with the older son Joe, Jim on a compulsion they drove up one nigh to the top of a hill where a 35 foot circle had been for some time and nothing had grown…”

Getting out of the car and seeing a light in a group trees they walk toward it. “…there was a box on the ground…it was making a buzzing sound and there was a light inside it… not on it. As I approached the box the buzzing got louder.” This made them retreat in fear. Later that same night as described in the book Jim made face to fact contact with these beings who not only knew who he was but admitted to harassing them. This was a well documented case.

Timothy Good’s book “Alien Liaison”

Scanning:

Another strange effect Polise felt, and reports about, in the book is what the locals call scanning. In the early sightings of Pine Bush many UFO spotters reporting knowing they were being scanned by some intelligence in the crafts. Polise describes what scanning is:

“The are two type of scanning going on… flash scanning and metal scanning… The flash scanning is an intense light shinning from somewhere above…The mental scanning is more difficult to explain.” He describes the feeling that comes over him

“I felt a numbness to my head…it didn’t last long and was gone when I went past the cemetery”. This is what most people describe along with the “knowing” they are being “watched” by these beings when it happens.

With all of this happening I ask the question, now, today; could a group of people go up to Pine Bush and create their own “calling”? Could they in effect tap into the energy around Pine Bush. Could a group of people, with good intentions reignite a new Pine Bush flap. Many might say that is crazy but intentions may be a prerequisite of contact. After all, the main group of people who these intelligences display for are just your normal everyday people. Many of them had no interest in UFOs before the displays some of course did, but all were zeroed in on for some reason. Many who have these contacts choose not to go public. Do they continue because of that?

There is something these beings get from displays…weather it be the attention of the government or a need we haven’t understood … they do happen. A form of communication seems to follow with one or more people. Do the sightings stop themselves or does the mood of the residence help end the flap.

Here is my suggested experiment for some of you younger adventurers to find out if Pine Bush is still a portal. A group of people journeys on a regular bases up to Pine Bush area and tries to make contact. They bring all the recording gadgets with them and they asked permission to film these beings. This is all done each weekend for a month, visiting the different spots I list below. I suggest strongly that anyone who decides to do this be very respectful of the people’s property. It’s a no brainer; the more you respect the property the more you be allowed to go UFO spotting.

An important part to add to your adventure is contacting the Pine Bush UFO/Phenomenon Meeting for the latest update. Going to the meeting and learning what is happening would certainly help in the experiment.

Pine Bush Meeting: http://www.pinebushufo.com/

Pine Bush New York areas for UFO Spotting: (don’t forget to bring your GPS)

Route 52 is the main highway to the Hot Spots” The Jewish Cemetery is along this route. It is easy to miss so keep an eye out. Do not trespass into the cemetery. The woods behind the cemetery also harbor strange phenomenon.
West Searsville Road two and half miles from the cemetery. There were places to park so look around.. A mile long stretch that may make you a believer.
South Searsville Road continuing down West Searsville Road you will come to a stop sign turning left you will find many places to park to go spotting. For those of you have a generation 3 or better night scope, you can get a clear few of the horizon from this area.
Fleury Road, a half mile from the cemetery is a very active place and key point to view all areas including the Jewish Cemetery. What out for the animals while driving.
Muddy Hill Lane, gravel parking lot parking no lights much strobe activity and UFO Craft activity over the mountains.
Albany Post road high speed limit on road so if you have to park make sure it is way over off the side of the road. A great activity in the line of trees you can view from there.
Rider road between Walden and Pine Bush is a more populated area so parking with good views of the night sky can be had for all.

I believe there may be a reason UFOs pick an area and those reasons are beyond our knowledge now. Do ETs pick these desolate spots to gather certain people together to scan them? Would ET entities respond if a group tried to initiate nightly contacts? The answer is I don’t know… and no one else does either, that’s the point. But even if it was a total failure there is nothing more beautiful then looking at a starry sky and talking to friends. Would I go… I think I may. I have been thinking of taking a group up to start the ball rolling.

By the way does anyone wish to take the blue pill with me?

Were the Pine Bush residence having mass hysteria? That is what the debunkers would like you to think. But when hundreds of people, including their families pull over to the side of the road, spontaneously to watch a giant triangle silently go over their heads, then the only ones who are hallucinating are the debunkers. Because the world I live in doesn't just doesn't work that way.

Videos below are from Pine Bush Area 2007-2008-2009:

Joe Capp

UFO Media Matters

Non-Commercial Blog

NY UFOs: The Town on The Edge Of Forever Part One

2009-08-24T12:08:00.016-04:00

Could it be possible for a town to collectively stop reporting UFOs? Could the residents be so fed up with the notoriety and curiosity seekers that their collective consciousness decides “no more”. There are some places around the New York city area where I believe people are still having many UFO/Paranormal experiences. They just don't report them.

If there ever was a place where “portals” exist then Pine Bush and the greater Hudson Valley would be that place. There were more sightings there than anywhere else in the world.

“The Hudson River valley of New York state was the site of one of the most widely witnessed and extended episodes of UFO activity ever. Literally thousands of witnesses observed the objects, and many photos and videos were taken. The "siege" begot over 7,000 documented and investigated sightings of a boomerang-shaped craft or crafts moving silently through the sky over New York and Connecticut between 1982 and 1995”.
http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/HudsonValley.htm

Yes, a major UFO flap which centered around one Jewish cemetery in Pine Bush. Some of these reports were so astounding as to include UFO craft landings with little entities. When the reports finally quieted down the media went quickly to other topics…but the UFOs were still there.

The Jewish Cemetery Portal?

The people in Pine Bush are secluded souls on purpose. They have no time for big city ideas or money schemes. A rural town surrounded by farms, the residents love their privacy most of all. At the end of this long drawn out flap the town had had enough. One UFO writer spent a great deal of time around Pine Bush and the surrounding area in a great small book called, “The Pine Bush Phenomenon” by Vincent Polise. Polise was there not only during the publicized flap but also years later. In a brief run in with a long time resident, Polise catches the understandable mood of the townspeople. Vincent, on one of his many trips to Pine Bush, brought up the subject of UFOs to one of these residents. The answer was short and to the point, “No, there are no UFOs now, please go now.”

The reaction of these town folks surprised writer Polise but as a long time follower of UFO witness reactions this was not surprising to me. I believe that statement reflected many people in this small private community. Debunkers will constantly spin the idea that everyone in the rural towns are just dying for the notoriety of UFO reporting and in fact hoaxing is their pastime. But that is just not the reality of most UFO witnesses, especially in small towns. Most residents at Pine Bush would like it to stay small and quiet and for the UFOs to go away.

The question is: did the UFOs ever really go away?

The recent Stephenville UFO flap has proven the UFO sightings continue long after the media has gone to sleep on the experiences. In an article update in the MUFON journal reporting on Stephenville, MUFON received 300 UFO reports months after the press had refused to print any more on the subject. In other words, the “Stephenville” flap wasn’t over just because the press said it was over. The reason why the press stopped printing UFO Stories was simply because of phone calls from the locals who wanted it to stop. No big conspiracies… just people being people.

There are two types of UFO obsessions. The first I call the “Passive UFO” personality who just follow the UFO story by way of the news, media and now the internet. The second type is the “Active UFO” follower who want to experience a UFO. They go to the UFO places that they hear about and learn what is going on. They try to have an experience. Some of these people are not thoughtful. They will trample on private property and just seem to forget the simply courtesies of life. Yet, there are those respectful adventurers who understand they represent something larger than themselves. This type of person may actually help keep these UFO flaps going long after they have died in the media. For example, in his book, Victor Polise mentioned how he believes many people in the “Pine Bush” area have videos and photos of what they witnessed. Polise himself continued to investigate and experience phenomenon long after the public thought it was over. . There may be, as he suggested, many more photos and videos of UFOs and even landings with little entities that would never see the light of day. He not only became a experiencer but a partner in the phenomenon.

When I’ve written in the past about going to certain area that attract UFOs I never wrote about Pine Bush and the greater Hudson Valley. I went up to Pine Bush with my wife. We spent the day taking a look around Pine Bush. We found the “Jewish Cemetery” (above) where some striking UFO/Paranormal experiences supposedly took place. We spoke to some of the townspeople who seemed to have very little to say about what happened, Some didn’t know what we were talking about.

I asked about the flap of UFO reports at this Flying Saucer diner but they seemed to be unaware of what we were talking about.

Pine Bush was much more than just UFOs. It was in effect what is called a “High Strangeness Area.” Not only were there various “silent” craft reported but globes of light, shadow animals and loud machinery noises seeming to emanate from under the ground. The reports were so amazing and continual that it inspired a book entitled “Night Siege.”

One report had hundreds of people pulling their cars off the highway to stare at a huge "silent" triangle that flew over. So many people saw this that it spun a “debunkers dumb explanation”: “A group of pilots played a hoax by flying their small planes at night in close formation”.( I wonder how they kept all those engines silent.)

Part Two of “NY UFOs” Vincent Polise experiences the “calling”, detailed places in Pine Bush to go UFO spotting., Pine Bush UFO meeting and UFO etiquette.

Pine Bush Meeting: http://www.pinebushufo.com/

Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

What questions would you ask an ET

2009-08-19T13:52:00.010-04:00

(I want to apologize to all for posting comments late there was an email mix-up. Everything is fine now and all past comments are now posted)

What would you ask an “alien” if one was standing in front of you, “mano-do-mano.”

Why don’t we take a little mind trip with me while we contemplate those questions?

You are out in a field. A UFO craft has landed and a being from another planet stands before you. Soon you come to realize what is in front of you and does not intend to harm you. You are nervous but you send the thought… “Can I ask some questions of you and will you answer honestly?” The ET replies in your mind, “I will answer your questions.” Now, it is up to you but you never thought in a million years you would have this chance.

When this idea for the post resided in my mind I thought: what questions I would ask this ET? If you have your own please post them.

Are you or another ET species causing Cattle Mutilation?
If you are, why are you doing this to the cattle.
Why must you hurt the animal?
What is the main reason there is no public contact between our species?
If you do not want public knowledge of your existence why do carry on these very public displays reported and filmed by hundreds?
Do you monitor our Atomic Missile program.
If you care about us why didn’t you stop the Missile buildup?
Are you or any other ETs abducting our people?
Why does any advanced race allow the kidnapping of other sentient species?
If you are responsible for abductions why do you allow the abductees to feel the pain of your examination?
Are there more than one species here on this planet earth.
Why are you and the others here?
Are any of the species visiting us at war with each other or hostile toward each other?
How long have species been visiting our planet?
Have you interfered with our development in the past?

These are the main questions that come to my mind when I think of what I would ask an off-worlder if I had the chance. Who knows, one day we may all have the chance.

Joseph Capp

UFO Media Matters