Christian City Church Whitehorse The Dirty Facts

CCCW Board Member Connected to Whitehorse City Council

2009-06-24T03:12:00.004+10:00

In one of my first posts I recanted how I was scammed by Christian City Care. I also mentioned I'd met a Mr George Neophytou the solicitor for Christian City Church Whitehorse. Later I discovering that Mr George Neophytou also held a position on the Board of Directors for Christian City Church Whitehorse, which also oversaw Christian City Care. However until today I was not aware the Mr George Neophytou also ran for a seat on the Whitehorse City Council in 2003.

George Neophytou Whitehorse City Council Elections

On the 9'th of April 2003 in a sitting of the Victorian Parliament the Hon. B. N. ATKINSON (Koonung) raised an issue concerning a planning development by Christian City Church. Where their legal representative George Neophytou Law Pty Ltd had written a letter to the body corporate who had lodged objections against the development. This development was in fact the now new home of Christian City Church at Rooks Rd Vermount.

Quoting the Hon. B. N. ATKINSON (Koonung)
"This is an outrageous letter because people have an ability under planning legislation to object to developments that they believe will have an adverse impact on their amenity and enjoyment of their property. That is a legitimate opportunity. For this company to suggest that it has judged the objections of the objectors and decided that those objections are not substantial objections and then suggest it will pursue an order for $200 000 in costs if these people proceed with their objections is outrageous and in total contravention of the rights these people enjoy at law at the moment in being able to have their case heard by VCAT. I hope the Minister for Planning shares my view that this sort of letter is not on."

Full story regarding George Neophytou Law Pty Ltd and Christian City Church can be viewed below:
Planning - Vermont development Whitehorse

From my understanding Christian City Church initially sought to transform their factory warehouses at 153 - 171 Rooks Rd, Vermont Victoria into a 1000 seating Church auditorium. In usual Christian City Church fashion the facts of this became rather clouded.

I can however state with my own two eyes and ears I was witness to a conversation that took place at Rooks Rd & where Pastor Peter Mchugh inspected the new sign that was to be hung on the outside of the main building. The sign contacted the word "Church". The sign was not permitted to be used. Instead it was to be replaced with something that did not state Church. At this time there is the signage of C3Centre. Unless one knew what C3 stood for I doubt anyone would realise this was the new home of Christian City Church Whitehorse.

Getting back to topic, I was under the impression that Christian City Church applied to Whitehorse City Council for a development permit not for a Church but for a Christian teaching college. Reality is the college takes up about 5% (if that) of the buildings. Fact is the buildings are not a college as the Whitehorse City Council apprently approved.

My question now focuses back to the connection between Christian City Church Whitehorse and George Neophytou Law Pty Ltd, for whom George Neophytouin in 2003 not only held a seat on the Board of Directors at Christian City Church Whitehorse, but was also running for a seat on the Whitehorse City Council.

Dr Phil Pringle Doctorate Fact or Fiction

2009-02-08T12:29:00.007+11:00

Although I've touched on the subject of the Dr Phil Pringle Doctorate and from what university he obtained this doctorate from, I never followed it through to find out the facts. Having a few hours spare I thought it maybe a good idea to research this topic.

It seems I'm not the only person who is or has been interested in knowing where Dr Phil Pringle obtained his Doctorate. I found some very interesting information from a well respect blog called Signposts.

A number of its blog posters have submitted email requests direct to Christian City Church Oxford Falls asking where Dr Phil Pringle obtained his Doctorate. Some have also also asked CCC to clarify the exact nature of this qualification. EG - PhD, Doctor of Theology, Rev Dr, Doctor of Biblical Philosophy. However no one received a rely much less any information to substantiate the Dr Phil Pringle Doctorate claim.

School of Creative Arts Prospectus
This is the Christian Ministries School owned and operated by Christian City Church.
Having a look at the google cache page I find the following quote under the heading of Dr. Phil Pringle, OAM: "Awarded a PhD by New Covenant International University in 1999 achieved by thesis on the Book of Acts, following a Masters by thesis on Church Growth".
PhD by New Covenant International University in 1999

Well that looks very official.
However when I revert back to the SignPosts Blog I discover that one of the posters (who in their professional capacity is a Librian) sent an email to the New Covenant International University requesting access to the thesesis that Dr Phil Pringle wrote to achieve his Doctorate.
Direct Link to Post

Direct Link to repsonse from New Covenant International University

Further links that suggest the response received from the New Covenant International University is unorthodox can be viewed:
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CCCare - Church Welfare Organisation Scams Client

2009-01-21T03:07:00.005+11:00

Press Release

Church Welfare Organisation Scams Client

A physically and mentally ill welfare client was conned by his Social Worker to perform 1,400 hours slave labour for a mate. Whilst also being scammed into signing a personal loan with the Social Workers finance company.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - Melbourne, Australia, January 21, 2009 - A 43 year old man who had recently been discharged from hospital, sought welfare assistance through Christian City Care, a Pentecostal Church welfare organisation based in Box Hill, Melbourne. Over the course of five months he was systematically scammed and conned by the organisations appointed Social Worker, who was also the Director of his own finance company.

The same company who cohered the welfare client into signing a personal loan. Further lies and client abuse followed, with the Social Worker arranging a meeting with a supposed friend who could apparently assist the welfare client to get back on his feet. Much later it was learnt that this ‘so called friend’ was a finance customer purported to have an outstanding debit of $10,000 owed to the Social Worker's company.

This friend was the Director & owner of Connections Consulting Pty Ltd. The welfare client, a web developer, was offered two projects. However both projects turned from four days work, into 3.5 months & 1,400 hours of work. Over this period the welfare client was treated like a lackey. He was ordered to perform additional office duties, was subjected to both emotional abuse, intimidation and threats of physical violence. Towards the end of his harrowing ordeal, he was forced; by fears of abuse, to worked 24 hour periods without out rest or adequate food. In total he received $300.

The CCCare Social Worker promised he would be paid on completion. Instead his Social Worker sacked him two days prior to the planned completion date. When asked for payment his Social Worker stated “I only introduce people, what Frank owes you is between you and Frank, it has nothing to do with me.”

A formal letter of complaint was sent to the Pastor of Christian City Church Whitehorse, Peter McHugh. Who is the Chairman & Director of the Board for both the Church and CCCare. The response was a white wash. Neither organisations accepted accountability for their dodgy Social Worker. Further attempts to have this matter resolved has produced an identical 'head in the sand' mentality.

As of January 21, 2009 the welfare client is yet to receive an apology from the Church, much less being compensated for the 1,400 hours worked. In total more than $48,000 is still owed to the welfare client of CCCare.

About Christian City Care & Christian City Church Whitehorse
Christian City Care (Acronym CCCare) is run under the umbrella of Christian City Church Whitehorse (Acronym CCCW). It is associated to the world wide Christian City Church movement started by Dr Phil Pringle, the senior Pastor of Christian City Church Oxford Falls Australia. It is believed that other enties directly associated with Christian City Churches include 3Ciglobal; C3; Christian City Church International (C3i).

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Welfare Client Scammed by CCCare Melbourne

2009-01-20T18:59:00.006+11:00

This blog was started to get someone to take notice. Preferably the press.
My story is about how I was scammed by a welfare organisation Christian City Care and their Social /Welfare worker (who turned out to be unqualified).

My CCCare Social/Welfare worker took advantage of my ill mental and physical health and cohersed me into signing a loan with his finance company. In addition he organised a so called web development job with his IT mate Frank Greco of Connections Consulting Melbourne. However like the loan scam this turned into nothing more than 3.5 months (1,400 hours) of slave labour ,of which many promises were made, but in the end I only received $300.

This scam was allowed to go unchallenged. These unsavoury events received a white wash by Christian City Church Whitehorse who oversees the operations of CCCare Melbourne Australia. The director of both boards of Directors was/is Pastor Peter McHugh, the senior Pastor for Christian City Church Whitehorse.

As of the 19'th January 2009 neither Christian City Care nor Christian City Church Whitehorse have given me an apology. Much less entertained a moral, ethical or biblical stand on being accountable for their part in this welfare scam. Of which I'm still owed over $48,000AUD in unpaid wages.

For those learning of this blog from the recent Press Release, I'd like to bring you up to speed with the following article links for your perusal (links open in separate window):

A Bridged Version - CCCare & CCCW Welfare Scam
Christian City Care
Christian City Church Whitehorse
Fudged Social Worker Qualifaction Claims
Opposing Qualified Social Worker Claim

Social Worker Loan Documents Scam
Loan doc 1
Loan doc 2
Loan doc 3
Loan doc 4
Loan doc 5

Pastor Peter McHugh Letter From the Board of Directors
CCCare letter page 1
CCCare letter page 2
Donated vehicle letter
Letter from Church to Vic Roads

Further information about the CCCare and Christian City Church Whitehorse welfare client scam, can be found by either following archive links on this blog, or by referencing this site's sitemap.

CCCW Fact or Fiction Book

2009-01-19T04:10:00.006+11:00

Its been a while between posts about Christian City Care, Christian City Church Whitehorse, Pastor Peter Mchugh, Pastor Phil Pringle and Christian City Church Oxford Falls. But that doesn't mean hands have been idle. Far from it.

Tanya Levine Hillsong Book

Fans of the ABC talk show 'Enough Rope' may recall the interview with Tanya Levine, an ex Hillsong covert who was commission to write a book on her experiences at Hillsong which spanned 21 years. As per usual, the Pentecostal Evangelistic Christian zealots rallied together, hissed and spat their venomous anger in unison upon Tanya Levine.

From my perspective, also based on person experience, it seems anyone who stands up against the Hillsong's, Christian City Churches, or any of the many Pentecostal Evangelistic Christian juggernauts will sufer the same condemnation at the hands of these blinded zealots. It's there Modus Operandi.

My personal opinion is that issues such as those raised by Tanya Levine about Hillsong, need to be addressed. Lets face it, the only people that don't like whistle blowers, are the people who are brought into contention by what maybe brought to light; most people are scared of the truth.

Christian City Church Whitehorse Book

This blog has received over 100,000 visits since May 2008. It currently holds numerous spot 1 & page one listings on all major search engines, not only in Australia but world wide. I've received emails from all over the globe. Some are true Christians wanting to express their personal apologies for the treatment I received. Others are concerned with a loved one, who in their opinion, have been brainwashed by Pentecostal Evangelistic Christian movements. Of course I've also received bitter, hateful emails from the misguided zealots too.

Originally this blog was set-up for one purpose only. However over time perspectives change, least mine have. Since writing the personal events that took place at Christian City Church Whitehorse and Christian City Care. And also receiving many emails, I decided to write a book about my experiences at both CCCW and CCCare.

At a guess a few people will be non too happy learning about this book. However, having factual documents to back up my claims will certainly prove advantageous; to which I have accumulated many docs. Locating information on the WWW is not hard, you just have to know where to look!

Before I finish this post, I wanted to express my sincere appreciation to all those who have read this blog and continue to follow its progress. Also thanks to all the true Christians that have contacted me so far.

Wife Amanda Guglielmucci Stands By Fraud Pastor

2008-08-28T01:34:00.004+10:00

Whilst Mike Guglielmucci apparently takes refuge from the porn and fraud storm at his parents home in Adelaide, his wife Amanda Guglielmucci comes to terms with her husbands lies and deceit from the confines of their home in Sydney Australia.

Yesterday marked the first public interview by Amanda Guglielmucci who is undergoing professional counselling services. Although this has been a severe shock the disgraced Pastor's wife is going to stand by her man. Amanda is quoted as saying in the Adelaide Advertiser, "I know he's not an evil man, there's not evil in his heart. I know that I love him. I know that much."

Whilst the shock of this entire matter sinks in, it seems Christians are following their belief to forgive Mike for his slide from grace. Obviously this news rocked both Planet Shakers where Pastor Mike Guglielmucci had his roots. It also taken a huge toll on both the Assembly of God Churches and Pentecostal Charismatic Christians in both Australia and the world.

Guglielmucci - Trouble in Pentecostal Paradise

2008-08-27T05:43:00.007+10:00

A Christian lady (she'll remain anonymous) contacted me yesterday who worked in the Assemblies of God for many years. The one thing that stuck out in her email and made this such a profound statement was the following:

Unfortunately too much stuff goes on in the Pentecostal movement where stars are made out of people who are meant to be servants.

Forgiveness is just not reserved for a Christian. It is an action to move past personal hurt and pain, to get on with ones life. There is nothing wrong with forgiveness. Transpose this line of thought back to the Mike Guglielmucci cancer illness scam and that's probably why many Christian are feeling this emotion and calling it to action towards Mike right now.

So getting back to "Unfortunately too much stuff goes on in the Pentecostal movement where stars are made out of people who are meant to be servants."

My Thought For The Day...
If every man, woman and child are made in the likeness of God, and God lives in every man, woman and child according to the Bible. Then why do Pentecostal Charismatic Christians feel the need to place mere mortals; who are open to sin and who Jesus died for on the cross, onto pedestals. Is this action not a complete contradiction of the Bibles teachings...

Should Mike Guglielmucci Be Held Accountable Poll

2008-08-26T06:55:00.002+10:00

Danny Guglielmucci Restitution Promise

2008-08-26T05:28:00.008+10:00

Danny Guglielmucci the father of the disgraced Pastor Mike Guglielmucci has announced that any money given in good faith to Mike Guglielmucci "[We will] gladly pay it back if people want their money back, absolutely. We are glad to make restitution".

I was under the impression that all money raised from the bogus cancer fraud; that would also include sales of the song "Healer", that could not be returned was going to be donated to charity.

It's common knowledge now that Mike Guglielmucci is supposedly receiving psychiatric care and ongoing legal advice. However I was not aware that he may need to go to an overseas clinic.

Apart from the other million and one questions I have, the one that interests me right now is did Today Tonight pay Mike Guglielmucci and Danny Guglielmucci for their story? If yes how much and what's this money going to be used for?

I may sound like a unforgiving cynical b#stard to some and that's ok.

For the record, I didn't say people should not forgive Mike Guglielmucci. I think everyone deserves a break if they are genuine. What I find bizarre, is now I read that Mike maybe about to do an 'exit stage right' out of Australia. That is jump on a burner and head to some glorified, high priced OS rehab for porn junkies.

Or maybe he's just going to go lay on a secluded beach in the Bahamas for 6 - 12 months.

The people actually know what's really going on aren't about to say anything. Least that's my opinion.

Here's a thought, grab a 1Kg empty Milo can, cut a hole in the top so coins (preferably $50 & $100 notes) can be deposited, print a bogus donation banner, wrap that around the Milo tin and walk the streets collecting.

How long do you think it would take before anyone of us is handcuffed. Later to be found sitting in a Magistrates Court facing charges of deception and fraud?

My million dollar question is why should Mike Guglielmucci be treated any different?

Accountability Mike Guglielmucci Cancer Fraud

2008-08-25T23:45:00.005+10:00

I've spent some time reading posts on a lot of Christian blogs in relationship to the Guglielmucci story. From what I can gather although people are still feeling burnt, hurt and conned, the majority of Charismatic Evangelist Christians are taking to forgiveness of what Mike did in connection to his terminal illness cancer fraud.

Personally I just don't get it. I mean I understand the "turn the other cheek" idea and that because we're human everyone is open to sin. But come on, who is kidding who here!

Having had first hand experience to the Shock and Awe tactics employed by some Charismatic Evangelist Pastors and Pentecostal Churches alike, I can in part understand why some Christians are taking the stand of outright support for Mike Guglielmucci and don't see why he should be accountable for scamming people. After all these type of pastors make it habit to quote twisted bible passages that make them untouchable, that gives them carte blanche`, accountable to no one.

What really disturbs me and ultimately shake my head in disbelief, is that in all the posts I've read, I've not seen one Christian make comment & ask when people like the Grandmother on a disability pension for instance is going to receive her $800 back!

Given the current attitudes, I would not be the least surprised to see Mike Guglielmucci eventually restored back into pastoral duties. It's not like that has not happen before with other wayward Charismatic Evangelist Christian Pastors, now is it!

In a closing thought and of course only my opinion, but, it begs me to ask why did it take so long for the porn addiction story to come out? Is this just another manufacture con? Reiterating nothing in connection to Charismatic Evangelist Christian Churches shock me. To me though the Guglielmucci porn addition justification just seems and reads a little to much like a bad American soap opera.

Pastor Michael Guglielmucci Healing Song Video

2008-08-25T09:41:00.004+10:00

When YouTube discovered that Pastor Michael Guglielmucci had scammed Christians with his fake terminal cancer illness, they pulled the disgraced Michael Guglielmucci song Healing from YouTube. However the Healing video can been seen on the following link. Pastor Michael Guglielmucci Healing Video

Michael Guglielmucci

2008-08-25T08:26:00.004+10:00

The charismatic Adelaide Pastor known for the song "Healer", turned Michael Guglielmucci into a world wide pop star among followers of the Evangelist Pentecostal faith movement.

Late last week it was revealed by the Assembly of God Church, that the then Pastor Michael Guglielmucci had faked his terminal cancer illness. In doing so had scammed and defrauded not only Australian Christians but also an audience of world wide Christian followers.

As of today the 25/08/2008 the Disgraced Michael Guglielmucci is in hiding. It's also been revealed that Michael Guglielmucci has also been addicted to porn since he was 12 years old. He currently seeking medical attention for this addition. No one has spoken to Michael Guglielmucci personally, all correspondence has thus far been addressed through his solicitor.

It does however beg a couple of immediate questions.

What about the terminal cancer illness scam?
Is Michael Guglielmucci going to be charged by the Adelaide police or at least and investigation commenced?

Last time I checked fraud is a criminal offence. It's the obtaining of goods or money by deception, which in the case of Michael Guglielmucci and his two year long terminal cancer illness scam, certainly points to the notion that a crime may have been committed.

Adelaide Pastor Addicted to Porn

2008-08-25T05:19:00.005+10:00

Having been raised in a uniting church environment, I've always held the belief that these were more than a place of worship. In days gone by in Australian culture they were the cornerstone and moral grounding for many communities. Whether main stream church leaders identify as Ministers, Reverends, Fathers or any multitude of titles, they are generally held in high esteem.

If we look back to the early 80's a slow shift in attitudes towards main stream churches has taken place. Parishioners have fallen in numbers. Some main stream churches that once drew 300 people to a Sunday service have either closed their doors, or, are battling to keep their doors open.

The idea that people don't want to hear a monologue sermon, more so they don't want to hear the truth, seems to echo in every article I've read about the decline of main stream churches in Australia.

We live in a society where everything is disposable, including people. Most want a quick fix solution. Consumable items are wanted, not needed, and they are required yesterday. The drive for money, power, prestige consumes people. It can push families into financial stress and also break homes apart. This mindset seems to be the general Status Quo of life in Australia in the year 2008.

It's really no surprise to me that there has been a steep rise in popularity of Evangelism. The Pentecostal Charismatic movement is certainly alive and well in Australia today.

I believe the majority of people in our society still believe in hope. They actually want a better life, free of stress, worry and the weight of confusion that seems to enter most peoples lives at some point. Combine these fears with people such as Pastor Michael Guglielmucci and other Charismatic Pastors and your going to draw a large following pretty quickly because these people offer hope. They promise fulfilment of people's dreams.

But like so many Pentecostal Charismatic Pastors before Pastor Michael Guglielmucci they all have two negative flaws in common. One they are all human; open to temptations of the flesh; in Pastor Michael Guglielmucci it's a so called porn addiction. The other common denominator is they all believe they are above accountability for their own actions.

To me that's pretty damn obvious in the case with the Adelaide Pastor Michael Guglielmucci terminal illness fraud scam. The question of whether Pastor Michael Guglielmucci intends to make himself available to police has been asked many times since this story broke. However every time the question is asked, the answer is the same, "No", Pastor Michael Guglielmucci will not be making himself available to the police. Instead we hear he's in hiding because of his porn addiction.

The people who Pastor Michael Guglielmucci has scammed are not all well heeled (wealthy). For instance a grandmother on an disability pension, saved $800, to take her four year old grandson who has cerebral palsy to Sydney for a holiday. Instead she was so touched with the plight of Pastor Michael Guglielmucci she donated the entire $800.

Being addicted to porn is not a criminal offence. However orchestrating an eloborate hoax (terminal illness) and using this to scam and defraud people for money, is a criminal offence, period!

Having been a member of a Pentecostal Evangelist Charismatic Church, I know from first hand experience how they operate. The hope and promises they preach are nothing more than tools of trade for these shysters.

Pentecostal Evangelism in Australia is BIG business. However until people actually start to realise this I believe we are going to keep seeing repeat performances of Pastor Michael Guglielmucci scams and other falls from grace by these modern day Carney's.

Followers and supporters (cough... zealots) are beating the "turn the other cheek drum". Andrew Evens the former Family First MLC and incidentally also a Pastor at the Paradise Church in Adelaide stated "My gut feeling is that people will forgive him." Granted everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However saying something like this whilst your a Pastor of a church is like telling you parishioners who to vote for in an up coming election.

In so far as "turn the other cheek". From what I've seen first hand from a Charismatic Church Pastor the "turn the other cheek" was the complete opposite. It normally is for these type of Pastors. From my experiences it seems to be "do as I say not as I do".

Adelaide Pastor Terminal illness Scam

2008-08-23T19:26:00.005+10:00

Christian City Church Whitehorse or the Christian City Churches are not connected in any way, shape of form to the scam.

Assemblies of God Pastor Michael Guglielmucci scammed a flurry of Christians into thinking he had a terminal illness. So bad was his deception that he also recorded a Pentecostal song the "Healer". Mr Guglielmucci went so far into his illness scam that on the recording of the "Healer" (a song released with the assistance of Hill Song Sydney), Mr Guglielmucci sang this song while connected to an oxygen tank.

This scam was brought to light by Pastor Michael Guglielmucci who attended the Australian Christian Churches executive meeting on Saturday the 16/08/2008. Immediately on hearing this news Pastor Michael Guglielmucci was striped of his credentials.

The Australian Christian Churches have began conducting an audit into Pastor Michael Guglielmucci bank accounts, funds and donations received for the Healer song he released with the Sydney Hill Song Group.

It's been purported that Hill Song has now acted on a copyright ownership clause connecting them to ownership of the song "Healer". Somehow disassociating Hill Song with Pastor Michael Guglielmucci, yet making Hill Song the legal copyright owner of the song "Healer".

If this is in fact true, I have to question why someone would do this? Obviously it's all about money. Pentecostal Evangelist money greed is nothing new, now is it!

Whilst many parishioners are obviously reeling from the shock. Others, or should the brain washed zealots who are srill unable to see the TRUTH, have set-up a Face book and are sending their support and prayers to Pastor Michael Guglielmucci.

Charismatic Spiritual Abuse

2008-08-14T01:24:00.003+10:00

Unless you a complete moron, or worse, a brainwashed zealot of Christian City Church, you've probably entertained the idea that all does not seem kosher with these Charismatic Churches. Let me tell you your not alone. There is no denying that these Charismatic Evangelists operate their churches more like big business than a spiritual haven for the lost, the fallen or the disadvantaged.

From my own personal experience at Christian City Church Whitehorse (aka C3Whitehorse, i-connect Vermont, c3i Vermont -- the list goes on), it was pretty damn obvious that when I saw and identify the we want to hug the world type people props, that the smoke and mirrors employed to lead new comers into a false sense of security and trust was as plain as the nose on my face.

Fortunately the catalyst for this realisation was from being scammed by Christian City Church Whitehorse. There are many others who are not so fortunate. Those who literally get sucked into the overwhelming and incestuous juggernaut known as Christian City Church International.

Spiritual abuse is alive and well, it's most certainly making a nice profit from the backs of its followers under the guise of Senior Pastor Peter McHugh at Christian City Church Whitehorse.

What is Charismatic Spiritual Abuse?
This type of abuse is no different (in my opinion) to any other type of abuse. It affects people, it removes choices, and it most definitely takes away that human spirit that lives in everyone. Even common law recognises that leaders of a church have the ability to invoke influence over their flock. With this in mind and based on my experience with Christian City Church, it's of no surprise that this type of influence is being used by Senior Pastor Peter McHugh of CCCW.

For those that don't know Pastor Peter McHugh is a qualified Social Worker. From my experience social workers at the very least have a basic grounding in psychology. It shouldn't take a road scholar to realise that this type of knowledge into human nature could easily be abused in the wrong hands. Or more so in the hands of someone who is only concerned with using a Charismatic Church as a front for making money.

I've seen many instance where people are indoctrinated in the fold of Christian City Church Whitehorse. To the point where I witness one lady holding the firm belief that Christian City Church was the only true place that God considered anyone being a true Christian. So convinced was she that her belief was true that she openly state "Even though my daughter attends church, she's not found God yet because she does not attend Christian City Church Whitehorse."

Spiritual abuse as far as I'm concerned is alive and active at CCCW.

People who question the acts of the pastor are either ignored, or in my case, labelled insane and suffering from a mental problem. Of course this type of character assignation is rife throughout these type of Charismatic Cult Type Churches. Another clear example of spiritual abuse.

Any pastor of a church that holds them self non accountable for their own actions, is clearly demonstrating a arrogance that is in direct opposition to the teaching of the bible. However in the case of what I've experienced at Christian City Church Whitehorse and at the hands of Pastor Peter McHugh, being accountable for any actions of a dubious nature and or those that have the stench of misguided and self righteous superiority are all ok because both CCCW and Pastor Peter McHugh are untouchable and not accountable for anything they do.

People who commit spiritual abuse also have these traits of non accountability for their own actions. Yet demand that their followers adhere to a set of guidelines and loyalty towards the the church. Followers on Christian City Church Whitehorse give not only an abundance of their money but also their time.

Most people never see through the smoke and mirrors for years, by this time they've given thousands of dollars in tithe, have worked untold hours for the church and at most times done this at their own expense. When in reality they the committed charismatic follower are merely being conned. Their money like their own life is being sucked dry by an unscrupulous church pastor who only has the belief in their own self indulgence.

Christian City Church Canberra Scam

2008-08-10T10:44:00.004+10:00

After checking my stats (which I do on a daily basis), these also including checking the numerous keywords used to find this blog on the search engines. Anyway...I found another Parliamentary post about another Christian City Church, this time CCC Canberra. Although it's a bit dated, it still demonstrates the sheer lack of accountability and integrity of Christian City Church.

Christian City Church Canberra Scam

This scam was perpetrated by Pastor Paul Whittaker the pastor at the time of CCC Canberra. He obviously had a vision to build a new church (how familiar is that), however did not have the funds to do so. Instead he convinced many families of CCC Canberra to put up their homes as collateral for the $1.2 million dollars at the State Bank who gave CCC Canberra the funds needed for the building of the new Christian City Church Canberra.

In addition to these people putting up their homes as security to the $1.2 million dollar loan, some people, who btw were not wealthy had also donated many thousands of dollars to the new Christian City Church Canberra building fund.

One such couple Bernie and Linda Cabone members of CCC Canberra not only gave their family home as collateral but also gave $17,000 (I believe this was their life savings).

Unfortunately for all these families and also those who had injected money, Christian City Church Canberra at the hands of Pastor Paul Whittaker went broke. Thus leaving all these families and their homes in debt to the State Bank.

Pastor Paul Whittaker washed his hands on the entire situation and turned his back on these families. Instead of facing the music he was last seen flying the coup and heading to Sydney.

Money is Big Church Business

2008-08-07T11:13:00.004+10:00

I've not posted for a while, but I see that the search engine listings are growing...lol For instance I've got a nice spot 7 out of 72,000,000 sites on google.

If I've failed to mention my main business exercise conducts search engine optimisation for larger corporations. That is we get sites into the top 10 of all major search engines. This topic btw is a walk in the park for getting search engine rankings...

Well back to the topic of Money is Big Church Business.

When Christian City Church Whitehorse were holding their funding drive for the new rooks road church, aptly named build for life, it was said that they raised $900,000 from the VIP dinner. However the purported profit of $38 Million Dollars (I assume tax free) amassed by CCCW in 2003 - 2004 was never mentioned. Yet in contrast the "we are so poor plate" would make its rounds many times in every church service at Christian City Church Whitehorse. There was always some reason why they "CCCW" needed money.

It's pretty obvious that a Church can mean big business.

Hypothetically if one was an atheist and that someone or group of atheists held no qualms about operating a Church or group of Churches with the purpose of making lots of money then you could see why they'd always be finding new ways and making up new buzzword purposes for acquiring money from church followers.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Christian City Church Whitehorse or any Christian City Church is doing this.What I saying is that when I attended CCCW I found it strange that no one service would go by without the begging plates being passed around less that two times.

I also find it strange, if not a little dodgy, that if the profits of CCCW were in fact 38 million dollars for the tax year of 2003 - 2004 why this information was not divulged.

It would seem that if CCCW made a 38 million dollar church business profit, why hit church followers up for cash all the time.

Integrity Say What You Think

2008-07-14T16:48:00.004+10:00

I often wonder if people actually know what integrity means. It seems to be another word that is thrown about loosely these days, a buzz word, something that sounds good on a resume` or being used in a Church sermon for instance.

Obviously I receive a far few comments posted to this blog, as I've said before all comments are moderated. If it was open I'd have a throng of Christian City Church zealots posting all kinds of misguided, brainwashed crap here.

Keeping this is mind I still receive comments from people who must think that their posts are going to gain instant access. However when they realise that their post(s) are moderated I usually receive a quick response or even an email saying something along the lines of I've got some juicy info for you about Christian City Church. I'm happy for you to use it but please keep my name out of it.

These type of emails or posts come from people who are still active members of Christian City Church. What I find perplexing is they are not petty accounts, certain things that either a Christian City Church Minister is or has done that doesn't sit well with these people, or, they have some other beef with Christian City Church.

Lets transpose this back to integrity. Why on earth don't people just stand up for what they think. If something is bugging you and you know it's not right then say something about it. Letting something slip because you don't want to stir trouble is the reason why there are so many dodgy things happening these days. People simply don't have the balls to say what's really on their mind. Instead they'll throw around words like integrity and think their doing ok.

Just grow some balls and stand up for your own integrity!

Real Men Have Balls

2008-07-03T00:40:00.005+10:00

In print,on YouTube even on the ccc.org.au web site the RealMen CCC Conference looks very inspiring. Then again what presentation wouldn't if you throw that kind of money about!

For someone who is well aware of how this Cult like Church operates, I personally find the RealMen propaganda disturbing, especially the type of claims found in the RealMen 2008 web page. I quote:

"DEVELOPING CHARACTER - through consistency, responsibility, decisiveness and accountability."

One of the speakers at the RealMen Conference is Pastor/Minister Phil Pringle. I find it very hard to understand how he can be an expert on the subjects of:

Responsibility
Accountability
Integrity

When he could not show simple manners in response to not one (1) BUT three (3) emails I sent him regarding the Minister Peter McHugh/CCCare/CCCW/Bogus Welfare Worker Scam.

Reiterating not one reply, not even a response from his Personal Assistant nor the General Manager of Christian City Church Oxford Falls. Who btw received the third (3'rd) email via Carbon Copy.

Pretty damn pathetic show of being RealMen wouldn't you say!

The comical thing, these so called Real Men who (in my opinion) are just idiots wrapped in morons don't have the b#lls to respond to an email, but will visit the blog on at least a daily basis.

RealMen & Real Men

2008-07-02T23:10:00.005+10:00

What is RealMen? Are RealMen Real?

Who are RealMen? What does RealMen mean to you?

How many RealMen can you fit into CCCW?

Are there any RealMen at CCC Oxford Falls?

Why would RealMen attend a RealMen Conference?

RealMen sounds like a buzz word excuse to get more money from Christian City Church Men?

Do RealMen have integrity?

Do CCC Real Men hold any concept of what integrity means?

Are you attending the Australian RealMen Conference?

RealMen Conference

2008-07-02T05:09:00.006+10:00

What is with Christian City Church and their use of Men in titles?
I mean we've got the RealMen Conference, which really sounds like some bad tasting 80's gig!
It also re-minds me of the Joe Jackson song Real Men.

Here is a verse from those lyrics:
See the nice boys - dancing in pairs
Golden earring golden tan
Blow-wave in the hair
Sure they're all straight - straight as a line
All the gays are macho
Cant you see their leather shine

(no derogative meanings are implied towards gay men by the use of the above lyrics in relationship to the Christian City Church RealMen Conference).

Christian City Care named its welfare work program Men At Work (wonder if that was Trademark infringement)

Men At Work - Land Down under verse:
Lying in a den in Bombay
With a slack jaw, and not much to say
I said to the man, "Are you trying to tempt me
Because I come from the land of plenty?"

That sounds a bit too much like a Money sermon from Christian City Church Whitehorse.

CCC RealMen Conference

2008-07-02T04:18:00.007+10:00

The Christian City Church Real Men Conference is being held at CCC Oxford Falls on July 25 to July 26 2008.

I'd expect Senior Minister Peter McHugh from CCCW to be at the Real Men Conference. Which begs me to question if he'll be addressing the Men at the RealMen Conference. If so then that's rather ironic when you consider his actions towards standing up to his responsibilities are anything but what one would expect from a Real Man, much less from RealMen.

Greg French the assistant Pastor at CCC Oxford Falls is the overseer for the 2008 RealMen Conference. Does Pastor Greg French honestly believes in Real Man values! Does Pastor Greg French have integrity? Lets hope that his integrity is a lot higher that you know who from Christian City Church Whitehorse.

Minister Phil Pringle is the boss of Pastor Greg French. Phil Pringle didn't have the common courtesy to even contact me when I sent him an email requesting his assistance about the CCCare dodgy welfare worker scam and the other issues raised.

I'm sure Pastor Greg French will be viewing this blog at some point.

Lets see who at this Christian City Church RealMen Conference has the b#lls to stand up and act like a Real Man!

Christian City Church International Cult Tendencies

2008-07-01T19:14:00.007+10:00

Christian City Church Whitehorse the Dirty Facts - Search Engine Listing Stats (02/07/2008):

Total Blog Pages: 148, with a daily increase on average of 9 pages.

73+ pages indexed on Google - Google page 1 listings: 95% of all ccc blog pages.
81+ pages indexed on Yahoo -Yahoo page 1 listings: 93% of all ccc blog pages.
53+ pages indexed on MSN - MSN page 1 listings: 91% of all ccc blog pages.

I've said it before I'll say it again, in my opinion Christian City Church Whitehorse and all Christian City Churches for that matter are nothing more than money making corporations.

When Christian City Church Whitehorse was on one of their many drives for cash to build the Rooks Road Church in Vermont, it's been said they raised 900K in one night at a VIP function. I was in the 11am Sunday church service when Senior Minister Peter McHugh told everyone that their VIP's gave 900K.

Real Churches don't have VIP's...However, Money making Corporations do!

99.999% of Church Cults are about money.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck!

The more I dig (the world wide web is a wonderful thing) into the background that surrounds Christian City Church Whitehorse I'm still amazed at the information that I find.

As I've mentioned previously I've spoken to ex CCC members, the more I realise the powers that control most Christian City Church entities wear different hats for different occasions. (hence the hat icon in the address bar). In my opinion based on the dealings I've experienced (first hand), Senior Ministers of CCC talk the talk but they certainly don't walk the walk.

The Senior Minister of Christian City Church Whitehorse in my opinion...is the BIGGEST w#nker of them all.

If you or anyone you know is connected to any of these Churches that are also connected to any of these entities run the other way at a fast rate of knots. Don't forget your purse or wallet ;-)

CCC
3Ciglobal
Christian City Church International
iConnect
Christian City Church

If your a Christian City Church Zealot does my blog offended you?
Does it cause you umbrage?

In that case you can write directly to Senior Minister Peter McHugh.

Because he is the reason this blog is here.

If Senior Minister Peter McHugh of Christian City Church Whitehorse aka CCC Vermont, aka Rooks Rd Church, aka C3iglobal Vermont...blah...blah...blah actually walked the walk with God as he claims then he'd have done the right thing from day one.

However, Minister Peter McHugh stuck his head in the sand and tried to bury these shocking events as told in my own words and with factual documented proof in this Christian City Church Whitehorse Blog.

Even when given the opportunity to right the wrongs last month (June 2008), instead of addressing them in a manner befitting a Minister of God, he chose to play semantics.

Christian City Church

2008-06-30T00:22:00.004+10:00

Christian City Church is the brainchild of Minister Phil Pringle, who is also the Senior Minister of CCC Oxford Falls. With over 200 Christian City Churches world wide they are also known as C3iglobal.

To refresh the current situation pertaining to this Christian City Church blog, it involves Christian City Church Whitehorse and the welfare organisation Christian City Care. It directly concerns a Mr Ryan who was employed by the Board of Directors of CCCare/CCCW in 2003 to be the CCCare Welfare Worker.

Fact is Mr Ryan was not a qualified Welfare Worker.

Fact is he was unqualified to perform the duties of a Welfare Worker.

Unqualified means:
Not qualified; not fit; lacking requisite qualifications: unqualified for the job.

Mr Ryan's position within CCCare was not just a matter of accessing clients for food hampers or to source out accommodation or material aid. What makes this matter troubling is some of the clients Mr Ryan was dealing with had alcohol and drug abuse issues. Some clients also had mental issues, abuse issues and what I'd call substantial life management issues.

Mr Ryan was given carte blanche authority by CCCare to assist these clients with the above issues.

For instance, I was witness to many occasions when Mr Ryan bought alcohol for alcoholics. A number of times he'd taken clients who were alcoholics to the pub. He'd even formed friendships with clients outside of CCCare and would invite clients to his home for a BBQ and drinks.

Most people would realise that you don't give an alcoholic alcohol. Transpose this to a Welfare Worker and they would certainly have the training to know that giving alcohol to an alcoholic is a no no. But Mr Ryan the (so called) welfare worker for Christian City Care had no clue!

In another display of the CCCare's bogus welfare workers inapt abilities, he had a client (lets call her Ann).

Anne came from an abusive relationship, had a history of being incarcerated, had a teenager son (who was removed from here care) and had a history of drug abuse. At the time Ann was on the methadone program.

Ann was being housed in a medium term women's accommodation program. A two bedroom unit in an eastern suburb of Melbourne. The apparent residential conditions of this unit was that Ann must live there by herself.

However Mr Ryan had a problem. Two of his CCCare clients were desperately in need of accommodation. In additions one of these clients had a drug abuse issue, whilst the other was an alcoholic. Instead of respecting the fact that Ann had issues also, he manipulated Ann into allowing these two men to reside at her unit.

Not only did this place Ann at risk of relapsing back to her substance abuse, but, it also directly jeopardised Ann's accommodation conditions.

Unfortunately not long after these two men moved into Ann's residence trouble commenced. Ann began drinking and smoking drugs. When both men were asked to leave, one complied, whilst the other turned nasty and reported Ann to the organisation that had given her the housing.

Ann's return to drugs, could have been prevented and the obvious risks should have been avoided.

When you have a welfare organisation (CCCare) passing Mr Ryan off as a Social/Welfare Worker, (and allowing this person to do the same), situations such as what happen to Ann, the alcoholics and any client of Christian City Care who dealt with Mr Ryan (CCCare bogus Welfare Worker) is an inevitable outcome.

It's a pity that Mr Ryan did not hold insight to realise he was in over his head. It's also sad state of affairs when a registered Welfare Organisation in Victoria, CCCare, were incapable of seeing the damage that Mr Ryan was/ had caused to clients of CCCare.

Unfortunately both Christian City Care and Christian City Church Whitehorse refuse to take any accountability for Mr Ryan's actions.

Let's just hope that due to Mr Ryan's lack of qualifications and bogus Social/Welfare Worker status, he has not caused any of his CCCare clients who suffered mental illness, alcohol/drug abuse issues or other serious problems any physical harm, abuse or worse.

As I was also a client of Mr Tony Ryan, Christian City Church Whitehorse being a Church of 3Ciglobal and Christian City Churches, that Senior Minister Phil Pringle needs to address the lack of accountability at CCCW and CCCare.

Both Minister Phil Pringle and Christian City Church Oxford Falls have been advised on three separate occasions about these welfare issues. However to date no response has been received.

CCCW CCCare Welfare Worker Scam

2008-06-29T20:40:00.010+10:00

Maybe I just hold different values but I find it hard to comprehend that no one from Oxford Falls Church has contacted me. This begs the question, what could they (CCC Oxford Falls) or more to the point, what could Senior Minister Phil Pringle be afraid of?

Although I had a brief contact with Senior Minister Peter McHugh of Christian City Church Whitehorse, he decided to turn his back on this issue again and bury his head in the sand once more. May what I've dug up on CCCare/CCCW this time will have me being contacted to resume talks.

Remove the emotion from this Christian City Church blog and your left with black and white facts!

CCCW/CCCare Facts:
Tony Ryan Listed as CCCare Social Worker on the CCCW web site 2004.
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Tony Ryan listed as CCCare Social Worker on the CCCW web site 2005. (29/06/08 archive down)
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Speaking of the CCCare Bogus Social Worker. Guess what I found CCCW? Give up!...
I found the Privacy Policy for CCCW/CCCare that was current when I was a client of CCCare.

To view the CCCW/CCCare Privacy Policy Click Here. (NB must have a pdf viewer)

Could I possibly have anything better. Well actually...Yes I do!

In my web travels I've uncovered the CCCW/CCCare June/July 2005 (What's On) Newsletter. Big deal you say. Hmmm actually it is a big deal when you view the 2'nd last page below. Look closely to the Job Description for Tony Ryan. It states Welfare Worker. However above states Social Worker.

CCCW June/July 2005 What's On Newsletter:
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Mr Tony Ryan is NOT A Welfare Worker. PERIOD!

Those who have been following this blog, may recall, the signed letter I received from Senior Minister Peter McHugh Chairman of the CCCare and CCCW Board of Directors (dated 28'th June 2005).

"We further confirm advice to you that Mr Ryan is employed by our organisation on a part-time basis as an unqualified welfare worker."

Letter From CCCare/CCCW Chairman of the Board (dated 28'th June 2005).
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In Australia you can not be an unqualified welfare worker. Further factual proof of the CCCare Social Worker, Welfare Worker scam.