Comments on Deflexion.com: Server-Side Message Labels

In addition to Jannick, Theo,...I found this an in...

2007-09-10T12:29:00.000Z

In addition to Jannick, Theo,...
I found this an interesting article (as far as I understand, about Thunderbird and IMAP tags):
http://www.mvpittman.com/thunderbird_tags/

So now I've installed TB2 and ran some tests... Us...

2007-07-20T14:04:00.000Z

So now I've installed TB2 and ran some tests... Using my private mail server (Cyrus 2.2) I could indeed assign multiple tags to a mail :-D and the tags were still there after rebuilding the folder index (in folder properties dialog). Great stuff :-)

But when trying the same with my work mail account (which resides on an MS Exchange server), the tags were lost after rebuilding the folder index... My guess is that Exchange does not support storing IMAP keywords on the server - can anyone confirm that? It seems that TB2 stores the tags in its local mailbox index instead... The Outlook Categories again seem to be stored either by Outlook locally or via a special (MAPI) function on the Exchange server.

Strange thing is that http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/imap/isps/#keywords lists MS Exchange as keyword-capable server. Anyone has more infos on that? Do our admins have to enable the IMAP keywords feature explicitly?

Thunderbird 2.0 has been released and it DOES supp...

2007-06-27T00:26:00.000Z

Thunderbird 2.0 has been released and it DOES support IMAP tags. I added a tag to a message in Thunderbird and was pleasantly surprised to see that a Courier IMAP tag of the SAME NAME was created on the server.

Thunderbird still has the same five default tags. I haven't checked to see what tags end up getting written to the server. Whenever you add a tag, the tag gets added to the tag list behind these five default tags.

A HIDDEN FEATURE (this may be documented)... After adding a tag, you can "edit" the tag in Thunderbird's preferences. This does *NOT* change the name of the server tag. It only changes the name of the local display. Therefore you can have a server tag like "dad" and have a local tag like "Messages from Dad" or something like that.

So... does the IMAP standard allow using more than...

2007-06-18T13:02:00.000Z

So... does the IMAP standard allow using more than one user tag for a message? If so, why do most mail readers (TB 1.5, cone, Evolution) only allow one "label" at a time, but do not allow to assign multiple labels to a message? Is this a limitation of the IMAP protocol, or is it too difficult to implement, or too difficult to show in UI, or...?

I'm currently searching for a mail reader that supports tagging but haven't really found a lot (TB 2 seems to support it but is too new at the moment :) . Outlook 2003 has "Categories" but I have no clue where they are stored (guess if I switch away from Outlook later all tagged messages will be untagged again - too risky).

Thanks for this article.. Do you know which server...

2007-06-13T13:19:00.000Z

Thanks for this article.. Do you know which servers / versions of server support or do not support IMAP flags?

Regarding webmail clients and IMAP keywords: In th...

2007-01-21T09:25:00.000Z

Regarding webmail clients and IMAP keywords: In the FastMail-interface you can use Advanced search to look for IMAP keywords. For example, enter "KEYWORD $Label1" in the "Custom"-field to search for the first of Thunderbird's flags. You can save the search and apply it from the action-menu on the mailbox-screen.

Not only is this acknowledged as a TB bug, but the...

2007-01-09T01:02:00.000Z

Not only is this acknowledged as a TB bug, but there is also an easy work-around, described here.

Thunderbird 1.5 doesn't seem to allow label-based ...

2007-01-09T00:01:00.000Z

Thunderbird 1.5 doesn't seem to allow label-based searching (these are just its five pre-defined labels) on IMAP folders. Given that it will search the bodies of messages on the server I don't know quite what its problem is.

It only seems to allow label-searches on local folders. I don't know how TB2 might change this.

Nancy, as I understand you, you say that, if I cre...

2007-01-04T14:27:00.000Z

Nancy, as I understand you, you say that, if I create a label in Mulberry called, say, "$Label5", and use Mulberry to apply that label to messages, Thunderbird should be able to see the messages with that label. Well, it doesn't seem to work with Thunderbird version 2 beta 1. Apparently, they've changed something. Any idea how to get around this?

Just an update on Mozilla support for IMAP flags.....

2006-06-15T18:53:00.000Z

Just an update on Mozilla support for IMAP flags... Thunderbird 2 ( http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird2 ) lists one of it's "themes" for development as "Message Tagging." TB2 uses the term "Tag" to refer to tags that can be applied both locally (for POP users) or as IMAP flags. The plan for TB2 tags is described at http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird2:Tags , and current CVS (which is technically development toward TB3, but from which TB2 changes are backported) has preliminary support for tags (allows an unlimited number of user-defined tags and automatically "upgrades" TB1 labels to tags) and is primarily only lacking some of the UI changes for tag editing/handling.