tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post5353467720130396386..comments2008-04-02T17:50:35.567-04:00Comments on Search and Destroy: Cartoon for March 29 To see the full artwork for ...Ted Rallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15206037144515105918noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-5070330489561396172008-04-02T17:32:00.000-04:002008-04-02T17:32:00.000-04:00badnewswade said... He didn't set out to "bash"...<I>badnewswade said...<BR/> He didn't set out to "bash" a religion, though.</I><BR/><BR/>Who? Ted? I know.Angelohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06412789587317769889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-25495213625911319182008-04-02T13:57:00.000-04:002008-04-02T13:57:00.000-04:00After the death of Chicago's first Black Mayor, Ha...After the death of Chicago's first Black Mayor, Harold Washington, a painting of Harold in women's underwear at the Art Institute of Chicago was stolen in broad daylight by a Black Chicago Alderman. It doesn't have to be a white-haired old lady doing the censorship. In fact, I think white-haired old ladies magnificently trump Black Chicago aldermen in tolerance and intelligence and appreciation of the spirit of free expression. The Black Chicago Alderman could not erase the image from the memories of people who saw the painting, nor the rumor that Harold Washington might have been gay. Either way, it doesn't diminish Harold Washington, the person. But smaller minds, MUCH smaller minds, prevailed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-71083889211383692962008-04-02T11:08:00.000-04:002008-04-02T11:08:00.000-04:00Ted, keep fighting! Hard to understand that your s...Ted, keep fighting! Hard to understand that your syndicate won't even let it appear on their site.Mike Lynchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06589354018554341768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-45763215785762934112008-04-01T21:20:00.000-04:002008-04-01T21:20:00.000-04:00He didn't set out to "bash" a religion, though.He didn't set out to "bash" a religion, though.badnewswadehttp://badnewswade.livejournal.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-24136311935480880872008-03-31T16:48:00.000-04:002008-03-31T16:48:00.000-04:00it was not too complicated. When diferences broug...it was not too complicated. <BR/><BR/>When diferences brought on by global inequality and class struggle lead to violence, religion and "race" are the whipping boy. It is annoying when people set out to bash a religion because it totally misses the point.Angelohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06412789587317769889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-14053051918617587922008-03-31T14:37:00.000-04:002008-03-31T14:37:00.000-04:00Ted-You overestimate the intelligence of your audi...Ted-<BR/><BR/>You overestimate the intelligence of your audience. Your humor in this case is way too subtle. Sean Hannity will love this because he doesn't understand it. Many Muslims will be offended because they don't understand it. And most of your far Left fans will think you're making a stand different than what you're actually making.<BR/><BR/>In the future, please keep in mind the average American IQ hovers just shy of 100.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-20768823461966716922008-03-31T09:17:00.000-04:002008-03-31T09:17:00.000-04:00But during a time when Islam and Muslims are under...<I>But during a time when Islam and Muslims are under attack and acutely subject to prejudice, why undermine one of their beliefs to make your point (even if your point is to criticize those who started this whole Mohammed cartoon craze)?</I><BR/><BR/>No American has defended Muslims as loudly as I have since 9/11. And this cartoon is a continuation of that.<BR/><BR/>But cartoons are a graphic medium. You can't talk about something without showing it--it makes a lousy cartoon. Furthermore, I am not governed by Sharia law. <BR/><BR/>The point of this cartoon is two-fold: first, the Europeans should stop obsessively poking sticks at Muslims. Second, I'm not afraid of offending them to make an important point.<BR/><BR/>Probably too complex.Tedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15206037144515105918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-79643614760575841782008-03-31T09:13:00.000-04:002008-03-31T09:13:00.000-04:00well, while it appears we can get teh uncensored v...<I>well, while it appears we can get teh uncensored version via a $25 subscription, perhaps this is an ideal candidate for a "direct-to-ebay" piece.<BR/><BR/>or are you keeping it for yourself, Ted?</I><BR/><BR/>It's a pretty good idea. We'll see what happens with it; sometimes the more controversial cartoons end up in gallery shows and stuff.Tedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15206037144515105918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-49011618034663341812008-03-31T05:15:00.000-04:002008-03-31T05:15:00.000-04:00Ted,I descend from a Muslim family but don't pract...Ted,<BR/><BR/>I descend from a Muslim family but don't practice myself. I disagree with most tenants of the religion, hate the hijab, and think the prohibition on showing the prophet is silly. <BR/><BR/>But during a time when Islam and Muslims are under attack and acutely subject to prejudice, why undermine one of their beliefs to make your point (even if your point is to criticize those who started this whole Mohammed cartoon craze)?<BR/><BR/>Way to kick'em while they're down.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-71695048788607748952008-03-30T22:55:00.000-04:002008-03-30T22:55:00.000-04:00In my humble opinions all religionsare bunch of fa...In my humble opinions all religions<BR/>are bunch of fairy tales that have <BR/>served their purpose and now do more harm than good.<BR/>With that said, for each his own, and other peoples' beliefs should be respected.<BR/>Freedom of speech is not a license<BR/>to insult other people religions and kick them when they are down.<BR/>Also, there are sizable christian<BR/>minorities in the Middle East and<BR/>the current hysteria in the West <BR/>against Moslems is putting in them<BR/>in a tough spot.<BR/>The Moslem religion is just a religion and is not an ethnicity or a race or a nationality. There a Moslems who are blonds with blue <BR/>eyes and there are Moslems who are<BR/>%100 black and all the shades and hues in between.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-8080067925795567112008-03-30T22:46:00.000-04:002008-03-30T22:46:00.000-04:00Admittedly, the Danish cartoons weren't even funny...Admittedly, the Danish cartoons weren't even funny, but I think they were re-published as a reaction to the uncovering of a plot to kill the cartoonists. For that reason, they probably should be re-published anywhere and everywhere, by as many outlets as have the guts to do it. Not to sound too Hitchensian (coined a word, you can have it 'cause I don't want it), but monotheistic religions forfeited any rights they had to ask for "tolerance" or "respect" around the 8th century, and that's being generous. <BR/><BR/>Moving on to your cartoon, I think the red blocks work just fine (after getting over the shock of finally seeing you censored) except for one thing: I'm dying to know what the new "blank" version of the koran is. Also, I'm originally from Richmond, VA, earthly home of Jeff MacNelly so obviously I'm a huge Pluggers fan. Here's an idea for a future cartoon: In order to solve the Palestinian problem and make nice with the moslem world, the US decided to give them a homeland in the sand-blasted, scorched-Earth landscape of the Utah salt flats. I'll let you make funny with the "getting to know the mormons" possibilities the idea contains.Charleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08374896422304218757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-80634041620589125362008-03-30T22:02:00.000-04:002008-03-30T22:02:00.000-04:00Well, now you know, Ted. It's not just about "free...Well, now you know, Ted. It's not just about "free speech" or being "offensive" - if you do a cartoon these scumbags don't like, they will try to kill you. Censorship by terrorism.<BR/><BR/>It makes me want to film myself setting fire to a Koran, TBH. Ironically the only reason I haven't done this so far is that I don't want to offend any real people (rather than the bigoted trogolodytes who have made themselves spokesmen for Islam, or should I say Islam, Incorporated?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-57374546460274145672008-03-30T21:57:00.000-04:002008-03-30T21:57:00.000-04:00Perhaps if drawings of Muhammad were done tasteful...<I>Perhaps if drawings of Muhammad were done tastefully, and respectfully, Muslims would get over it. I'm all for trashing organized religion, but this type of stuff is hurtful and offensive to human beings</I><BR/><BR/>Being murdered for drawing a crap cartoon is even more hurtful and offensive. You crackpot.The Worst Blogger In The Worldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16131473306685284193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-83786876673746773672008-03-30T21:44:00.000-04:002008-03-30T21:44:00.000-04:00well, while it appears we can get teh uncensored v...well, while it appears we can get teh uncensored version via a $25 subscription, perhaps this is an ideal candidate for a "direct-to-ebay" piece.<BR/><BR/>or are you keeping it for yourself, Ted?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-2017261211527627232008-03-30T15:53:00.000-04:002008-03-30T15:53:00.000-04:00You are a coward who is hiding comfortably behind ...<I>You are a coward who is hiding comfortably behind the so called "free speech".<BR/>Can you make a cartoon rediculing the jews or blacks or just critisizing Israel??!!</I><BR/><BR/>Um, I think it's fairly obvious from this cartoon that free speech is less than a 100% proposition.<BR/><BR/>As my regular readers know, I have never criticized Israeli policy or defended the interests of Muslims in my work. This is because I am a famously gutless coward, and I am very sorry.Tedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15206037144515105918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-8358968521964694192008-03-30T15:52:00.000-04:002008-03-30T15:52:00.000-04:00Perhaps if drawings of Muhammad were done tasteful...<I>Perhaps if drawings of Muhammad were done tastefully, and respectfully, Muslims would get over it. I'm all for trashing organized religion, but this type of stuff is hurtful and offensive to human beings.<BR/><BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Actually, this cartoon mocks the European papers who re-ran the Danish Mohammad cartoons.Tedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15206037144515105918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-21818419858199570222008-03-30T13:49:00.000-04:002008-03-30T13:49:00.000-04:00Hey David, who actually gets pissed about the elep...Hey David, who actually gets pissed about the elephant shit painting? Seriously, was there like one white haired old lady on the news or something?<BR/><BR/>There's zero equivalence there.<BR/><BR/>Is it too late to subscribe and get this one uncensored?Brianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07198961632625966362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-40208793017464281922008-03-30T07:45:00.000-04:002008-03-30T07:45:00.000-04:00I like it, and I agree with Bruce, the censored ve...I like it, and I agree with Bruce, the censored version totally works.<BR/><BR/><BR/>As far as elephant dung goes, a nun told me shit is considered cool, even sacred in India, where it is dried and burned for fuel. Painting an icon with it could be considered an extravagant form of artistic veneration, akin to gold leafing.Angelohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06412789587317769889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-44671464578430286562008-03-30T05:31:00.000-04:002008-03-30T05:31:00.000-04:00You are a coward who is hiding comfortably behind ...You are a coward who is hiding comfortably behind the so called "free speech".<BR/>Can you make a cartoon rediculing the jews or blacks or just critisizing Israel??!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-22507359084898591682008-03-30T05:23:00.000-04:002008-03-30T05:23:00.000-04:00Wow, I thought the censoring was intentional, like...Wow, I thought the censoring was intentional, like a really clever comment on the nutlessness of the media...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-84228826511423652072008-03-30T00:41:00.000-04:002008-03-30T00:41:00.000-04:00Perhaps if drawings of Muhammad were done tasteful...Perhaps if drawings of Muhammad were done tastefully, and respectfully, Muslims would get over it. I'm all for trashing organized religion, but this type of stuff is hurtful and offensive to human beings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-83813968187747551942008-03-30T00:24:00.000-04:002008-03-30T00:24:00.000-04:00I was expecting someone else to've said this alrea...I was expecting someone else to've said this already, but this is an April Fool's joke, yes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-61145887026925282112008-03-29T13:27:00.000-04:002008-03-29T13:27:00.000-04:00Going to the zoo to poke bears? I do believe that ...Going to the zoo to poke bears? I do believe that Ted Rall has the largest yarbles possessed by any cartoonist ever!<BR/><BR/>The only place which publishes your cartoons in my area is the weekly <I>Pittsburgh City Paper</I> - and they only choose one out of the three per week you produce (this week's was "3AM and Obama's magical powers"). I doubt they have the guts to publish this cartoon uncensored and will probably simply choose a different one for next week.<BR/><BR/>Can those on the Ted Rall subscription service get it uncensored? Because, if so, I'm kicking myself for neglecting to sign up - time to shift the finances around so that I can experience the full hit of this wonderfully offensive cartoon.Seth Warrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17902433459293637252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-5269014166941560962008-03-29T09:35:00.000-04:002008-03-29T09:35:00.000-04:00I don't understand. The syndicate won't publish i...I don't understand. The syndicate won't publish it on their websites, but does that mean you can't publish it on your own blog? Who owns the cartoon?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5288939.post-76056349260006882722008-03-29T09:10:00.000-04:002008-03-29T09:10:00.000-04:00I hope you like fatwas. Armeggedon is gonna look g...I hope you like fatwas. Armeggedon is gonna look great in HD. Larfffff.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com